Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[E_F_]

He literally destroyed everyone 2 days in a row, I'd say he's fine to chill a bit

He always controls with his team and attacks on the MTF. It's lame.

 

[Ripper]

Armstrong wasn’t a super responder any more than any other super tuned and talented athlete would be. Or is. Armstrong simply decided to buy the best programme that money could buy, partnering up with Ferrari because he was at the cutting edge. Armstrong went hi tech. Everyone else was doing domestic science. Parallels can absolutely made with what we see happening today.

100%.

I mean, didn't pre-cancer Pharmstrong also take epo? There's the dope, but nothing replaces an expert doping regimen, expertly implemented. And for safe measure, or should I say countermeasures, ensure you have as many get out of jail free cards as possible.

Gianetti would not know anything about using intimidation or other forms of force to silence people! He's a good vampire!

 

[burning]

He always controls with his team and attacks on the MTF. It's lame.

Well, that's like literally how every single dominant rider rides in GTs. Lance was a maniac that wanted to win every single stage except 2000 Ventoux and Pogacar is only 1 stage behind him right now. Pogacar is definitely not "lame" in this case

 

[E_F_]

Well, that's like literally how every single dominant rider rides in GTs. Lance was a maniac that wanted to win every single stage except 2000 Ventoux and Pogacar is only 1 stage behind him right now. Pogacar is definitely not "lame" in this case

Dominance is boring, yeah. This is no different than watching Sky. What people praised about Pogacar was that he wasn't like that. Now he is.

 

[burning]

He has multiple 50km attacks, especially in one-day stages, though. And he was doing a lot more long-range attacks (2024 Galibier, 2022 Spandelles, 2021 Colombiere, 2020 Peyresourde) when he thought he needed to do that. He just has an absurd team right now that his team can do the long-range part lol

 

[E_F_]

He has multiple 50km attacks, especially in one-day stages, though. And he was doing a lot more long-range attacks (2024 Galibier, 2022 Spandelles, 2021 Colombiere, 2020 Peyresourde) when he thought he needed to do that. He just has an absurd team right now that his team can do the long-range part lol

Like that wasn't exactly what I was saying...

 

[burning]

I still would not label him lame or boring, he's definitely more on the insane side in terms of the top-level GC riders, in my opinion

 

[ashhutch1997]

Well, that's like literally how every single dominant rider rides in GTs. Lance was a maniac that wanted to win every single stage except 2000 Ventoux and Pogacar is only 1 stage behind him right now. Pogacar is definitely not "lame" in this case

The only year LA was a maniac was 2004. He was pretty conservative in other years IMO.

 

[zlev11]

vingegaard attacks full out and tadej doesnt even get out of the saddle

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Since forever one of the main defenses of Pogacar has been that he's an exhilerating, attacking rider. That is no longer true on mountain stages.

I know, right? Dude hasn't attacked since... the last road stage.

 

[BoobiesAndBloodBags]

Kudos to that fan telling it is as it is. He forgot a few names though.

 

[MartinGT]

Kudos to that fan telling it is as it is. He forgot a few names though.

Just came here to post that

 

[BoobiesAndBloodBags]

Just came here to post that

It's the best one I've seen since the guy in surgical scrubs and mask chasing Froome up the Finestre with a giant inhaler

 

[DONCA]

vingegaard attacks full out and tadej doesnt even get out of the saddle

no need if you have a little assistant

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Because we are all looking for proof in the clinic:

Voigt metioned today, that the fan with the Elk-helmet before Pogacar used to be a fan of Lance, than Landis than Leipheimer. Solid sucess rate in choosing dopers. Only the fact that none of his names start with an L can save him.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

vingegaard attacks full out and tadej doesnt even get out of the saddle

Teddy was too tired for that and preferred to stay seated.

 

[ashhutch1997]

It's the best one I've seen since the guy in surgical scrubs and mask chasing Froome up the Finestre with a giant inhaler

That was quality lol

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

One gets the impression that he's kind of mailing it in, and making faces to seem like he's working.

 

[peterfin]

One gets the impression that he's kind of mailing it in, and making faces to seem like he's working.

I mentioned it as well. It looks like he is faking things a bit to look 'human'.

 

[Stablo]

This seems intresting, but somehow it doesn't let me register for the free articles so can't fully read it. At least other riders, anomously of course, are also starting to say their mind and feel annoyed.

«Que voulez-vous que je vous dise?», «Dégoûté»… Le bruit de la foudre sur le Tour de France, après la sur-domination de Tadej Pogacar - Le Temps

Des membres du peloton expriment leur dépit devant la suprématie du maillot jaune, au terme de la troisième étape de montagne remportée ce samedi par Thymen Arensman en échappée, dans l’ascension de Superbagnères

www.letemps.ch

Today like yesterday only watched the replay with fastforward, but seemed like pog was downplaying it and had a lot in reserve. Again fresh as a daisy after finishing when others are half dead. No talent, which he obviously also has, but not in the level the apologists/fanboys and the carefull image building wants us to believe, explains the complete lack of fatique and exhaustion.

 

[Stablo]

I mentioned it as well. It looks like he is faking things a bit to look 'human'.

Very true and seems like the amount of extra watts he always has in use makes it hard to look like his actually suffering. I was wondering already after the crash, that how can pog&gianetti be so relaxed and sure it will not affect the performance. Most of the riders lose some percentages after a crash like that and even if they don't you can't be certain of that. Then this magic duo is very relaxed and sure they are going to do great on Hautacam. For me this tells they know, that they can obilirate the competition(even Vinge) anyway with the program/assistance they have. I'm reffering here to the Gianetti interview before Hautacam stage and the video UAE riders (pog, sivakov etc) made in socialmedia regarding the Johannesen case like don't worry it's fine. Maybe it's just me, but i really got a feeling that they knew it doesn't matter and how can you be sure the night before or in the morning unless....

 

[peterfin]

Very true and seems like the amount of extra watts he always has in use makes it hard to look like his actually suffering. I was wondering already after the crash, that how can pog&gianetti be so relaxed and sure it will not affect the performance. Most of the riders lose some percentages after a crash like that and even if they don't you can't be sure of that. Then this magic duo is very relaxed and sure they are going to do great on Hautacam. For me this tells they know, that they can for sure obilirate the competition(even Vinge) anyway with the program/assistance they have. I'm reffering here to the Gianetti interview before Hautacam stage and the video UAE riders (pog, sivakov etc) made in socialmedia regarding the Johannesen case like don't worry it's fine. Maybe it's just me, but i really got a feeling that they knew it doesn't matter and how can you be sure the night before or in the morning unless....

Indeed. There is for sure a certain level of arrogance in the team. It looks as if they know there are minutes to gain if some issue comes along. Also the team strategy shows this. While he is obviously in a good spot to win the tour now, they still go full gas with the team risking to exhaust the team mates. You don't do this if you want to reduce risks of a bad day later on. In the end, Pogacar didn't even try to go for the win today so it looked like they were fine putting the effort in regardless of the outcome.

 

[Stablo]

Indeed. There is for sure a certain level of arrogance in the team. It looks as if they know there are minutes to gain if some issue comes along. Also the team strategy shows this. While he is obviously in a good spot to win the tour now, they still go full gas with the team risking to exhaust the team mates. You don't do this if you want to reduce risks of a bad day later on. In the end, Pogacar didn't even try to go for the win today so it looked like they were fine putting the effort in regardless of the outcome.

For two years now it has surely felt like they are playing the "game" with a cheat code. Pog was highly suspicious even before 24/25, but now it has been of the charts especially with pog of course and also the whole UEA-team. I kind of like Almeida, but the jump he also had is crazy. Politt, Narvaez.... 🤷‍♂️

 

[Tim Cahill]

The change of time limits on the tt stage felt like a bone being thrown.

10 or 20 riders getting kicked out after an 11k tt because the first couple of guys were too mutant might not have been the best look, it felt like conversations were being had behind closed doors.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

The UCI cannot allow an Armstrong like reveal, with Pog. It WOULD destroy the sport.

I know I get accused of wearing a tinfoil hat, but I genuinely believe that the reason Visma took a real nose dive, is becasue the UCI caught them with motors, and said they'd bring them down if they didn't stop. (Remember there was a rumor that a major sponsor left because the team was caught with motors...goodbye Jumbo) It may be that Wout doesn't look as much like Wout because he doesn't have magnets in his wheels anymore, and I'm a Wout fan. I am convinced that in 2016, he was racing with a motor in CX. The videos are just too odd to ignore, and then look at Kuss in 2023...

Whatever Pog is doing, the UCI cannot stop him. It would kill the Pro Tour.