Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[dr.eve]

I think this requires its own thread. We do not know if its linked to pogi and Gianetti.

On another note, it suggests the blood passport is maybe not that conclusive and hey old fashioned blood doping with a twist is still a possibility.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I assume if this synthetic hemoglobin is 40 times more effective at transporting oxygen then VO2 max and FTP would be hugely boosted depending how much the rider used. But I am not sure the biological passport actually tracks oxygen carrying capacity, just the blood component which carries the oxygen? Not sure the bio-passport can distinguish between natural and synthetic hemoglobin?

And on the 'very well known rider' I'd be surprised if it wasn't his manager, doctor or team rather than the rider himself who approached these guys?

If the bio passport can't detect such a strong boost then it's pretty much useless nowadays (it definitely wasn't the case in 2010s during the great "slowdown").

 

[Low is rhe new high]

If the bio passport can't detect such a strong boost then it's pretty much useless nowadays (it definitely wasn't the case in 2010s during the great "slowdown").

The biological passport is hopefully updated and adopted to current situation? It should be possible to test for new artificial hemoglobin variants.

 

[BubbaChuck]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2003076176836010085

View: https://x.com/i/status/2003076176836010085

 

[BubbaChuck]

there is no twist needed,you can just look at watts they are pushing,lmaoo.if thye can explain increase in numbers in last 3 years,thye can explain everything.and this true for whole peleton.we are not talking msll bumps here,thye went from 6 to 7 watts basically.

 

[dr.eve]

The biological passport is hopefully updated and adopted to current situation? It should be possible to test for new artificial hemoglobin variants.

I would hope so too, though I would not be surprised if it isn't. New tests are not always easy to develop, and if they are, sometimes they are costly and this can be a factor in what do you take a long in your testpanel and what not.

On top of that, the article linked previously also says it has a very narrow detection period due to its short halflife. That could make it rather useless to put in the bloodpassport. You may test for it but if in practice you can not actually detect it in most cases than it just gives an inaccurate image of fairness.