Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Squire]

Yep saw the blond hair as well. Basically outing himself as a doper

Only Simoni didn't bother.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Soon he will appear in the Epstein files as well, together with the other crypto bros.

Funny you should mention this, not quite, however if this forum has one use it does call out snake oil salesmen early. People on here were saying San Milan was full of *** years before it came commonplace.

You aren't reading wrong, though it depends on the effort, 'VAM' alone doesn't really mean much without context of climb type/duration. Pogacar and even some of Vingegaard's efforts were close and sometimes exceeding Pantani/Riis/Mig on the climbs, rather than the '10%-15% less' than he thinks here.

Pogacar's fresh FTP over an hour is at least close to 7 w/kg, form/weight dependant ofc.

Tl;dr Attia is a charlatan, no more qualifications in exercise physiology/related than anyone on here (zero), his speciality is the classic 'longevity medicine'. I'd also expect most people on here to have a better grasp of the basic concepts. Having said that I think it's good Pogacar is doing this sort of interview, though just wish he would've chosen someone different.

Not accusing Pogacar of anything to do with it of course but he does need better advice on choosing his friends.

Peter Attia mentioned in the Epstein files 1800 times;

https://twitter.com/x/status/2017758037616763148

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Funny you should mention this, not quite, however if this forum has one use it does call out snake oil salesmen early. People on here were saying San Milan was full of *** years before it came commonplace.



Not accusing Pogacar of anything to do with it of course but he does need better advice on choosing his friends.

Peter Attia mentioned in the Epstein files 1800 times;

https://twitter.com/x/status/2017758037616763148

1800 times is absurd.

There is one email chain between him and epstien organising a meet the next day, that took place at the same time as his son was in hospital after cardiac arrest. He told his wife he was too busy with important work to travel ...

 

[HashRouge]

I hear you but (quick ai explanation)
Bleaching or heavily treating blond hair can reduce drug metabolite concentrations by 40-80%, potentially allowing users to evade detection in hair follicle tests. The process damages the hair shaft, causing substances to leach out. Natural, light-colored hair also has a lower, poorer incorporation rate of substances compared to darker hair.

So i do see it as a possible tell.

I'm a little confused about the hair thing. Not that it doesn't do what you say, but more at what point would the ITA actually do hair testing? It doesn't seem to be listed as a routine method that they use (their website says, "The ITA collect urine, blood serum, blood ABP (for an Athlete Biological Passport (ABP)) and Dried Blood Spot (DBS) samples". So why would Pogacar bother bleaching his hair to cover up his (supposed) doping if no-one is actually going to be asking him for a hair sample?

 

[KoopaCycling]

almost never. I don't think hair samples are accepted by wada. but non-damaged hair provides long term evidence. better safe than sorry. that and belief. Anxious ppl try to cover all their bases.

 

[HashRouge]

almost never. I don't think hair samples are accepted by wada. but non-damaged hair provides long term evidence. better safe than sorry. that and belief. Anxious ppl try to cover all their bases.

It doesn't sound like he has any reason to be anxious about hair sampling though? Sorry, I find so many things are presented as "gotchas" in The Clinic and then when I look into them further there doesn't seem to be any substance to them.

 

[red_flanders]

Peter Attia mentioned in the Epstein files 1800 times;

Grifters gonna grift...

 

[Squire]

I'm a little confused about the hair thing. Not that it doesn't do what you say, but more at what point would the ITA actually do hair testing? It doesn't seem to be listed as a routine method that they use (their website says, "The ITA collect urine, blood serum, blood ABP (for an Athlete Biological Passport (ABP)) and Dried Blood Spot (DBS) samples". So why would Pogacar bother bleaching his hair to cover up his (supposed) doping if no-one is actually going to be asking him for a hair sample?

The bleached hair 'meme' comes from something else. I don't remember exactly what substance it was, but a lot of riders in the 90s/00s bleached their hair because the stuff they took gave them blonde patches in their hair. See the Simoni picture I posted here. I think I read that he caught some flak from other riders for not bothering to hide that particular side-effect. Don't remember if it was in the Hamilton book or here on the forum or whatever, so take it with a slight grain of salt. But the blonde patches due to doping was definitely a thing.

 

[HashRouge]

The bleached hair 'meme' comes from something else. I don't remember exactly what substance it was, but a lot of riders in the 90s/00s bleached their hair because the stuff they took gave them blonde patches in their hair. See the Simoni picture I posted here. I think I read that he caught some flak from other riders for not bothering to hide that particular side-effect. Don't remember if it was in the Hamilton book or here on the forum or whatever, so take it with a slight grain of salt. But the blonde patches due to doping was definitely a thing.

Ohhh, got it! I wasn't watching cycling back then and not as clued up on the history of the sport.