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Have you lost your mind entirely? Ineos is a fossil fuel, petrochemical and fracking corporation. It is an evil parasitical presence on the earth in ways that completely dwarf trivial issues like sporting teams.

Unless you're the Unabomber living in the woods then you use products made possible by Ineos and their like every minute of your day. Where do think the plastic that made the device you about to post your reply on come from? Sustainably sourced plastic trees?
 

Of course it's not your consumerism that's the problem. It's everyone else's. Ineos just facilitate the lifestyle you have expected long before they you knew who they were. And if anyone tried to take one little bit of it away you would complain until your last breath. So how about you cut out the hypocrisy. You follow a sport which has a carbon footprint the size of Godzilla and it takes a Land Rover knock-off to stir you? Please!

Is there are Meme for that?
 
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Of course it's not your consumerism that's the problem. It's everyone else's. Ineos just facilitate the lifestyle you have expected long before they you knew who they were. And if anyone tried to take one little bit of it away you would complain until your last breath. So how about you cut out the hypocrisy. You follow a sport which has a carbon footprint the size of Godzilla and it takes a Land Rover knock-off to stir you? Please!
lol you seem very angry. you also seem a little confused. maybe have a lie down and have a nice think about whether living in a society really does obligate people to approve of every current feature of that society.
 
Have you lost your mind entirely? Ineos is a fossil fuel, petrochemical and fracking corporation. It is an evil parasitical presence on the earth in ways that completely dwarf trivial issues like sporting teams.
and TOTAL is a fossil fuel, petrochemical and fracking corporation

but it looks like the French fans are not even slightly bothered by that and nor here nor twitter.
even the strongest anti-Ineos on twitter have nothing to say about Total. no British flag, it´s all fine.
 
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Of course it's not your consumerism that's the problem. It's everyone else's. Ineos just facilitate the lifestyle you have expected long before they you knew who they were. And if anyone tried to take one little bit of it away you would complain until your last breath. So how about you cut out the hypocrisy. You follow a sport which has a carbon footprint the size of Godzilla and it takes a Land Rover knock-off to stir you? Please!

Is there are Meme for that?
https://www.twitter.com/INEOS/status/1040530004432617472

they produce polymers used in toray carbon for bike frames too.
 
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Have you lost your mind entirely? Ineos is a fossil fuel, petrochemical and fracking corporation. It is an evil parasitical presence on the earth in ways that completely dwarf trivial issues like sporting teams.
What do you want us to do about it?
There is progression in everything and eventually with the passing of the years, things will change. But now we are dependent on many of these things. The car companies are as guilty as they are as well. And many other companies. Again there is progression and evolution in everything and it will take time for things to change.
 
The sad but also hilarious bit is the people who think they're the only ones trying to make things better while they are actually usually doing near nothing to actually make things better, and making for up for it by lazily advocating for radical measures that often practically end up making things worse. At the end of the day, Ineos sponsoring a cycling team is completely meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Actual progress comes from the people working to come up with better standards and regulations, from those working out the political machinations to get them enforced and even more from those who are actually on the ground messily implementing them. They're the real reason there's no more acid rain, the ozone hole is the smallest on record, and why CO2 emissions in the developed world have been going down for ages. Meanwhile, if anything, the money that Ineos shovels into their cycling team is money that isn't reinvested into making more plastic.

Anyway, back to more important matters: really excited to see how the team goes at Occitanie. Bit of a niche point really, but it will be interesting to see how one, often reluctant, mountain domestique heeds the calls of the three dueling amigos.
 
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Nothing wrong with applying pressure on Ineos to be cleaner in their business through their sponsorship of a cycling team in a ethical/environmental agenda, but I just can't stand the fact it's so one-sided in cycling e.g. Total will be completely ignored because not the right team to *** on, yet they caused France's worst environmental disaster to date destroying sea life along 400km of French coast, killed 100K birds and even appealed at being fined and having to pay for their own oil spill clean-up! Citroen coming in soon as one of Europe's biggest polluting manufacturers and even subsidised by French government too! ASO exists on FIAT and Skoda money for decades allowing these races to be run. Direct Energie is LPG - the by-product of refining oil as was Liquigas, Gazprom etc.

The best thing you can do for the planet is not fly on holiday, maintain an old car instead of buying new and if you can afford it buy products that are repairable, durable, reusable and last. Ineos don't even manufacture retail products, they supply the chemicals everyone else needs.
 
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Ag2r-Citroen wants you to buy their stinking fossil cars from 2021. check how many cars Citroen sells vs the Suv. any comment about Ag2r-Citroen?
Of course every non-electric car emits CO2. But are you really going to compare the CO2-emissions of an SUV and a 'normal' car? Citroën cars emit less CO2 than the average vehicle, where as SUVs emit way more than the average.
 
Of course every non-electric car emits CO2. But are you really going to compare the CO2-emissions of an SUV and a 'normal' car? Citroën cars emit less CO2 than the average vehicle, where as SUVs emit way more than the average.
Citroen produces a SUV too the Citroen C5
I'll have to compare the sales number (and pollution) of all the cars produced by Citroen vs the one model Ineos Grenadier sales and pollution
 
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Wiggins seems to be hoping that Thomas gains a few seconds early on with a short La Rosiere type attack / sprint and that Bernal won't be allowed to attack for the remainder of the race.

This will only work if Thomas is in yellow / better than all other non-INEOS riders - AND if Bernal follows team orders once again.

Probably too many ifs, but let's wait until the Dauphine. Thomas deserves some credit after his impressive 2018 season, IMO.
 
So it is true. They might leave Froome behind. That could be the reason why He is working for Bernal. He might be doing the same in the next races just to gain the last spot. The new contract with Israel couldn't help the situation, otherwise I would take him just for the attention from fans and people watching the Tour.
 
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