Team Ineos Discussion thread

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Parker said:
spalco said:
Also maybe an even more evil company than Sky, which is kind of impressive.
Are Sky evil? They're just a TV company. Are you angry that you can't watch Game of Thrones for free?

The likes of the Sun, Fox News etc may have some common shareholders, but they're not Sky.
They have had a few direct and indirect scandals in the UK, and have been repeatedly accused of anti-competitive practices. They also didn't pay any taxes from 1990-1999. Sky was found to have overcharged for its Sky Sports channels, and was ordered in 2010 to reduce its charges for these channels. They are majority owned by Murdoch whose other news outlets hacked phones of innocent people to dig up dirt for their tabloids including the phones of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler, relatives of deceased British soldiers, and victims of the 7 July 2005 London bombings.
 
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myrideissteelerthanyours said:
They have had a few direct and indirect scandals in the UK, and have been repeatedly accused of anti-competitive practices. They also didn't pay any taxes from 1990-1999. Sky was found to have overcharged for its Sky Sports channels, and was ordered in 2010 to reduce its charges for these channels. They are majority owned by Murdoch whose other news outlets hacked phones of innocent people to dig up dirt for their tabloids including the phones of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler, relatives of deceased British soldiers, and victims of the 7 July 2005 London bombings.
They didn't pay taxes in the 90s because they were running at pretty big losses year on year.
The Murdoch's owned 16%. If they had majority owned it they would have sold the rest to themselves.
Phone hacking wasn't at Sky - blaming Sky for that is like blaming The Simpsons for Fox News. One of the biggest campaigners against it was Steve Coogan who has since made several shows for Sky.

So they're 'evil' because they overcharged for football.
 
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Parker said:
Are Sky evil? They're just a TV company. Are you angry that you can't watch Game of Thrones for free?

The likes of the Sun, Fox News etc may have some common shareholders, but they're not Sky.
I do watch Game of Thrones without paying :lol:

But yeah, I hold Sky responsible for Fox News, News Corp, kickstarting the full commercialisation of football, and other things. which may not be entirely fair, but in any case, it's a massively powerful media conglomerate which automatically kind of makes them evil to me.
 
Moscon in an interview for Il Messaggero when asked about the Giro said that Thomas will be the leader, i think Thomas himself is the only one convinced that he won't ride in may :D

Other than that he said that he'll be the leader at Strade Bianche and cobbles classics whereas he didn't know the pecking order for Tirreno but the route suit him, after Roubaix he'll go to Tirol instead of Ardennes.
At the Giro his target will be the time trials and trying to grab the pink jersey in the first week (he said that also the uphill sprint in L'Aquila could be good for him) before shifting to domestique role.
 
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Nirvana said:
Moscon in an interview for Il Messaggero when asked about the Giro said that Thomas will be the leader, i think Thomas himself is the only one convinced that he won't ride in may :D

Other than that he said that he'll be the leader at Strade Bianche and cobbles classics whereas he didn't know the pecking order for Tirreno but the route suit him, after Roubaix he'll go to Tirol instead of Ardennes.
At the Giro his target will be the time trials and trying to grab the pink jersey in the first week (he said that also the uphill sprint in L'Aquila could be good for him) before shifting to domestique role.
interview for Il Messaggero
https://www.ilmessaggero.it/sport/altrisport/ciclismo_bicicletta_moscon_colloquio_intervista_strade_bianche-4341043.html
 
So a few developments on Team Ineos today.

The Cycling Podcast just about confirmed Team Sky have been saved by Ineos as new sponsor and the teamineos.com domain name was registered just last week and popped up into WHOIS now and is registered to a INEOS rather than a domain squatter so looks either coincidence or suggestive the sponsor is moving forward at least.

Important Dates
Updated Date: 2019-03-05
Created Date: 2019-03-05
Registrar Expiration Date: 2020-03-05

Registrant Contact
Name: INEOS Domain Registrar
Organization: INEOS Holdings Limited
Mailing Address: Chapel Lane, Lyndhurst Hampshire SO43 7FG GB
Phone: +44.2034577777
Ext:
Fax: +44.2380287069
Fax Ext:
Email:domain@ineos.com
 
Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

The original Ineos story was via Farrand, so I would imagine him and Moore have been discussing. Friebe said the announcement would be within the next two weeks. Of course, we only know when Brailsford hits the button though to be 100% sure.
 
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Sir Dave is obviously still committed to moving the sport forward into the 21st century, good on him. Also great to see that sponsors are out there...even in so-called "non-traditional" cycling countries.
 
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oldcrank said:
Sir Dave is obviously still committed to moving the sport forward into the 21st century, good on him. Also great to see that sponsors are out there...even in so-called "non-traditional" countries.
So where are these monied sponsors for all the other teams? One team having twice or more the budget of basically every other team out there is not good for the sport.
 
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Koronin said:
oldcrank said:
Sir Dave is obviously still committed to moving the sport forward into the 21st century, good on him. Also great to see that sponsors are out there...even in so-called "non-traditional" countries.
So where are these monied sponsors for all the other teams? One team having twice or more the budget of basically every other team out there is not good for the sport.
If Sir Dave can find a sponsor, what is stopping the other teams from doing so? He is obviously smarter than those in charge of some of the other teams, but he is also interested in moving the sport forward while some prefer staying in the past.
 
Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

oldcrank said:
Koronin said:
oldcrank said:
Sir Dave is obviously still committed to moving the sport forward into the 21st century, good on him. Also great to see that sponsors are out there...even in so-called "non-traditional" countries.
So where are these monied sponsors for all the other teams? One team having twice or more the budget of basically every other team out there is not good for the sport.
If Sir Dave can find a sponsor, what is stopping the other teams from doing so? He is obviously smarter than those in charge of some of the other teams, but he is also interested in moving the sport forward while some prefer staying in the past.

If other teams CANNOT find sponsors with the SAME deep pockets Sky has it will do NOTHING but HURT the sport. You can't move forward when no one else can compete. The ONLY thing you accomplish is destroying the sport. The sponsors are NOT out there. It's just that simple. The best thing the UCI can do is put a HARD 20 million budget cap on the teams.
 
Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

oldcrank said:
Koronin said:
oldcrank said:
Sir Dave is obviously still committed to moving the sport forward into the 21st century, good on him. Also great to see that sponsors are out there...even in so-called "non-traditional" countries.
So where are these monied sponsors for all the other teams? One team having twice or more the budget of basically every other team out there is not good for the sport.
If Sir Dave can find a sponsor, what is stopping the other teams from doing so? He is obviously smarter than those in charge of some of the other teams, but he is also interested in moving the sport forward while some prefer staying in the past.
You can't be serious, can you? So it's only a matter of being a genius? Interesting.
 
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masking_agent said:
The "Ineos Train" will be drilling it for 2020

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/47608625

should be interesting to see the new kit, if they stick with Pinarello ? etc. etc..


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pinarello-to-support-team-sky-beyond-2019/

in december :Fausto Pinarello - the CEO of Pinarello, revealed to Cyclingnews that he had also been contacted by people interested in taking over sponsorship in 2020. He gave his full support to Brailsford, rather than look for alternative teams for his bikes.
 
Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

oldcrank said:
Sir Dave is obviously still committed to moving the sport forward into the 21st century, good on him. Also great to see that sponsors are out there...even in so-called "non-traditional" cycling countries.
Do British subjects/citizens feel obligated to refer to him and others that have been anointed as such as "Sir Dave" or is that just a personal choice?
 
Looks like Comcast is finding a way to get out of likely paying for this entire season as well. As they found a sponsor for next year they are not paying anything next year. They said they would not pay contracts next year if a new sponsor wasn't found. Why am I not surprised Comcast has a found a way to get out of even paying for this entire year.
 

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