Team Ineos Discussion thread

[CTQ]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

So Thomas will carry on:
"I've had worse crashes. My shoulder is sore but it's nothing I can't deal with. There's a lot more racing to be had so we'll get stuck in."
No words from Landa or Sky about his condition.

https://www.teamsky.com/article/crash-derails-giro-challenge

tests tomorrow to be sure no serious injury
https://twitter.com/MikelLandaMeana/status/863838873394311168

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Just terrible luck. I was looking forward to seeing how Thomas and Landa were going to do. Then one stupid accident later...

Yea one of the most annoying bits of this crash is we won't know what they were capable of and for these two riders in particular I was very curious because they both had potential to fail or succeed spectacularly.

If Froome/Quintana crash it sucks for them but we know what they're capable of so I don't feel robbed of my questions as much.

Yes that's exactly it. Thomas and Landa were two of the genuine mysteries as far as their GT potential is concerned and now they will be just as mysterious at the end of the race as they were at the start.

 

[Singer01]

while sky are saying the right things, I'd love it if they paced dumoulin when he needs it in the mountains. after movistar mugged them off at the vuelta and again here. Not saying movie star did anything wrong, but a bit of spice would be fun.

 

[DFA123]

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while sky are saying the right things, I'd love it if they paced dumoulin when he needs it in the mountains. after movistar mugged them off at the vuelta and again here. Not saying movie star did anything wrong, but a bit of spice would be fun.

Not sure that will happen. It was a Sunweb rider who took out their entire team yesterday after all. And I don't think Sunweb are the most popular team in the peloton anyway for some of their 'negative' tactics.

 

[rick james]

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while sky are saying the right things, I'd love it if they paced dumoulin when he needs it in the mountains. after movistar mugged them off at the vuelta and again here. Not saying movie star did anything wrong, but a bit of spice would be fun.

Not sure that will happen. It was a Sunweb rider who took out their entire team yesterday after all. And I don't think Sunweb are the most popular team in the peloton anyway for some of their 'negative' tactics.

Muddying the waters are we?

 

[DFA123]

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while sky are saying the right things, I'd love it if they paced dumoulin when he needs it in the mountains. after movistar mugged them off at the vuelta and again here. Not saying movie star did anything wrong, but a bit of spice would be fun.

Not sure that will happen. It was a Sunweb rider who took out their entire team yesterday after all. And I don't think Sunweb are the most popular team in the peloton anyway for some of their 'negative' tactics.

Muddying the waters are we?

If you don't think some members of Sky will have discussed amongst themselves the bike handling and line choice of the Sunweb rider, then you don't know pro cyclists.

 

[rick james]

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while sky are saying the right things, I'd love it if they paced dumoulin when he needs it in the mountains. after movistar mugged them off at the vuelta and again here. Not saying movie star did anything wrong, but a bit of spice would be fun.

Not sure that will happen. It was a Sunweb rider who took out their entire team yesterday after all. And I don't think Sunweb are the most popular team in the peloton anyway for some of their 'negative' tactics.

Muddying the waters are we?

If you don't think some members of Sky will have discussed amongst themselves the bike handling and line choice of the Sunweb rider, then you don't know pro cyclists.

What the hell do you know about what the Sky riders have discussed?

this was not the riders fault, the fact you're trying to blame them speaks volumes

 

[rick james]

I seen some say Rosa was a DNF yesterday, is it true?

 

[King Boonen]

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I seen some say Rosa was a DNF yesterday, is it true?

Don't think so. Results from CN article:

73 Diego Rosa (Ita) Team Sky 0:17:17

 

[DFA123]

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while sky are saying the right things, I'd love it if they paced dumoulin when he needs it in the mountains. after movistar mugged them off at the vuelta and again here. Not saying movie star did anything wrong, but a bit of spice would be fun.

Not sure that will happen. It was a Sunweb rider who took out their entire team yesterday after all. And I don't think Sunweb are the most popular team in the peloton anyway for some of their 'negative' tactics.

Muddying the waters are we?

If you don't think some members of Sky will have discussed amongst themselves the bike handling and line choice of the Sunweb rider, then you don't know pro cyclists.

What the hell do you know about what the Sky riders have discussed?

this was not the riders fault, the fact you're trying to blame them speaks volumes

As suspected, you don't know pro cyclists very well.

I agree it was not mostly the rider's fault. But in my experience of spending some time with some pro teams, riders would fully expect fellow riders to avoid a motorbike parked at the side of the road - they hold each other to very high standards regarding handling and line choice (at least in private). And they remember very well which riders took them down in crashes.

I guess these kind of nuances don't come across so well in the black and white world of Eurosport and Twitter though.

 

[rick james]

don't start talking about like you know what pro cyclist are like or what they are talking about...you know as much as the rest of us

 

[DFA123]

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don't start talking about like you know what pro cyclist are like or what they are talking about...you know as much as the rest of us

Ok rick, believe what you want. You obviously can't know whether or not the statement you have made is true.

 

[glassmoon]

would love to see the video from the team's car when they hit the deck...

 

[Fernandez]

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don't start talking about like you know what pro cyclist are like or what they are talking about...you know as much as the rest of us

Ok rick, believe what you want. You obviously can't know whether or not the statement you have made is true.

Besines I know what you want to mean, I dont think this time they are gonna blame a fellow cyclist in this one. They already have someone to blame.

 

[rick james]

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don't start talking about like you know what pro cyclist are like or what they are talking about...you know as much as the rest of us

Ok rick, believe what you want. You obviously can't know whether or not the statement you have made is true.

Besines I know what you want to mean, I dont think this time they are gonna blame a fellow cyclist in this one. They already have someone to blame.

of Couse they have someone to blame.....the motorbike driver that caused the crash

 

[yaco]

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while sky are saying the right things, I'd love it if they paced dumoulin when he needs it in the mountains. after movistar mugged them off at the vuelta and again here. Not saying movie star did anything wrong, but a bit of spice would be fun.

Not sure that will happen. It was a Sunweb rider who took out their entire team yesterday after all. And I don't think Sunweb are the most popular team in the peloton anyway for some of their 'negative' tactics.

Watching the replay a Sky rider effectively squeezed Kelderman into the moto.

 

[deValtos]

Ah yes, as it turns out team sky riders who had absolutely no vision of the obstruction are the cause of the crash.

 

[yaco]

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Ah yes, as it turns out team sky riders who had absolutely no vision of the obstruction are the cause of the crash.

I am happy with my assessment - Doesn't change the fact the ultimate cause of the crash was the parked moto.

 

[wouterkaas]

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I seen some say Rosa was a DNF yesterday, is it true?

Don't think so. Results from CN article:

73 Diego Rosa (Ita) Team Sky 0:17:17

Good to see! He was initially listed as DNF alongside Kelderman on PCS.

 

[MatParker117]

Impressed by Boswell, think that he might have a seat on the flight to Germany.

 

[rick james]

I see Knees us on the volcano right now with the Dawg and co, will he wake the tour team?

 

[WheelofGear]

Viviani must be frustrated right now.

Could have saved Sky's Giro.

 

[yaco]

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Viviani must be frustrated right now.

Could have saved Sky's Giro.

Doubt Viviani will stay with Sky, unless he is guaranteed one GT each year.

 

[MatParker117]

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Viviani must be frustrated right now.

Could have saved Sky's Giro.

Doubt Viviani will stay with Sky, unless he is guaranteed one GT each year.

Contracted through 2018.

 

[MatParker117]

Great California, stage win and two classifications.