Yes, I'm thinking if all Carapaz does in the Tour is take some pulls ahead of Bernal on some climbs, he could be in shape to go to the Giro and contend. Not much to lose, because at worst he can ride for Thomas, assuming the latter is in better form. And i wouldn't be surprised to see Bernal in the Vuelta. If he doesn't win the Tour, or even podium, he will want to win something.
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Yes, I'm thinking if all Carapaz does in the Tour is take some pulls ahead of Bernal on some climbs, he could be in shape to go to the Giro and contend. Not much to lose, because at worst he can ride for Thomas, assuming the latter is in better form. And i wouldn't be surprised to see Bernal in the Vuelta. If he doesn't win the Tour, or even podium, he will want to win something.
Just to be clear, I don't disagree with what you were saying either. Just that the premise of 'could have maximized their chances in all 3 GTs' got me thinking, so I replied specifically to your post.
I am cognizant that they let Froome/he let himself go for the Giro only after he had won 4 tours, and on the year where there were 5 weeks between the two. They were transparent about that (which is much more than I can say for their communication about the context around Froome's participation in races in general at the time, but that's for another forum). So yeah, targeting other GTs have always been a grudging concession or proving ground rather than a 'risk it all' mentality. Which is part and parcel of why the team is both so successful and so hated.
I will quibble slightly with the assertion that expectations were low when Wiggins rode the Giro, at least on this forum. I vividly remember the months of moaning about how the Giro put so many TT kms in just to tailor it to Wiggins, and the talk leading up to it was 'how will anyone beat him' more than anything else. I was also subject to the whiplash of my own personal framework approaching the Giro developing from "Nibali is so exciting putting the Empire under pressure" to "God this Nibali win is anticlimactic" after Wiggins crashed out/gave up (a dissonance I also went through again in the exact same way the following year in the Tour).
I'm sure I see Bernal in a video recently saying he's not sure of his rides after the Tour but would be happy to work for Froome at the Vuelta. Maybe a Tour/Vuelta double for Bernal then maybe go onto the Giro next year.
Bernal has previously said he wants to go for the Giro again and of course was targeting it last year until his shoulder injury.
It would not surprise me in the slightest to see Bernal heading to the Giro next year with perhaps Sivakov, Thomas and Carapaz going to the Tour (depending on condition/parcours)
It would not surprise me in the slightest to see Bernal heading to the Giro next year with perhaps Sivakov, Thomas and Carapaz going to the Tour (depending on condition/parcours)
Don't understand why you would pull Carapaz out of the Giro - Carapaz at the TDF is not going to be the difference whether or not Bernal wins the TDF - Carapaz should have stayed in the Giro and Froome and Thomas go to the Vuelta.
I’m a closet Sky/Ineos fan. I’ve always marveled how they just rode the peloton into the ground sucking energy out of the group. Its going to be a nice change of pace to see other teams attempt the same. I still think Bernal is the favorite but it’s a crazy year and who knows how they look in week 3. I’m thinking all the riders are struggling with conditioning and it might be the most interesting race of attrition ever seen.
As for Froome, he just couldn’t be selected. He looked terrible. The biggest surprise and disappointment is Thomas. He didn’t have an injury to deal with and what happened with him is puzzling. Has he just cashed it in?
As for Froome, he just couldn’t be selected. He looked terrible. The biggest surprise and disappointment is Thomas. He didn’t have an injury to deal with and what happened with him is puzzling. Has he just cashed it in?
They made the right decision. They could not make a dent in Jumbo's squad. they would be far away from ideal weight. Froome probably has not recovered from the injuries. Thomas on the other hand requires a structured training and nutrition approach guided by others. The pandemic threw that out of the window. I donot think without DB and team looking over his shoulder, he had the necessary motivation. They start the TDF as 2nd favorite.
Adam Yates to Ineos for next year.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/adam-yates-signs-for-team-ineos/
Will they turn him into the new Froome? Or the new Philip Deignan?
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/adam-yates-signs-for-team-ineos/
Will they turn him into the new Froome? Or the new Philip Deignan?
I hope he’s just allowed to target one-day races with a some leadership chances in stage races.
Winning the Giro with Rohan Dennis seems like an Ineos move that would piss me off......
I don't think Dennis has the mental strength to stay composed for 3 weeks while fighting for the win. If he hadn't crashed the 2017 Giro would have been perfect for him to get inside the top 10 on the gc. That said, he has shown more than Thomas before he suddenly became a top climber in gts, so who knows.
I'd agree that he may make little difference if Bernal wins the TDF because Egan will not win it. Re-watching Stage 2 of the Dauphine and noting Bernal's position it looked like he did have something wrong. He was laid out and looked totally stressed when the guys around him looked more comfortable at about 10km to go.
Carapaz may surprise us all as an opportunist. That feeling comes from zero knowledge on his form, though.
At least now we don't have to rely on Adam's shaver not working in the mornings to tell the twins apart
In a sport as traditional as this they should not be allowed to be on different teams.
Indeed. Frank and Andy are very displeased.In a sport as traditional as this they should not be allowed to be on different teams.
Sir Dave doesn't understand why Juraj never answers his calls.
Definitely still go in search of that delete forum button.
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