Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Dazed and Confused]

Maybe the circuit racing makes Froome dizzy.

 

[TailWindHome]

Shouldn't someone be bumping the OPQS or Kwiatkowski threads?
Wouldn't want people thinking you were Sky obsessives

 

[the sceptic]

He's just not a one day racer, one days don't suit his riding style in any way. GT are his thing through and through.

if Dawg cared and prepared for the worlds im sure he could finish in the first group sometimes.

Not sure why he is even racing to be honest, they know he will get dropped on the flat so whats the point? But at least we get to see and remember what the real Dawg looks like.

 

[No_Balls]

As has already been pointed out: why does he even rides here? The fact that he (or anyone) shows up and looks absolutely ****-poor after this Vuelta is, well, not looking good at all. All you really needs is to try stay with the peloton Dawg.

I realise that no journalist or newspaper will pressure this issue but people can begin to wonder.

 

[zlev11]

Shouldn't someone be bumping the OPQS or Kwiatkowski threads?
Wouldn't want people thinking you were Sky obsessives

you're the one who seems obsessed

 

[the sceptic]

you're the one who seems obsessed

perhaps he could go bump it himself, but that might require him to have an opinion on something so probably not.

 

[TailWindHome]

perhaps he could go bump it himself, but that might require him to have an opinion on something so probably not.

Such a silly post.

 

[the sceptic]

Such a silly post.

You complain about sky getting more attention than other dopers, so why arent you posting in any other threads?

thanks for proving my point.

 

[GuyIncognito]

if Dawg cared and prepared for the worlds im sure he could finish in the first group sometimes.

You mean like last year when he claimed to be in awesome form and had the whole team burning matches on the front for him?

Yeah, he was really close to the front group there

 

[TailWindHome]

You complain about sky getting more attention than other dopers, so why arent you posting in any other threads?

thanks for proving my point.

Yet again your idea of proof falls desperately short of the mark.

 

[zlev11]

Yet again your idea of proof falls desperately sort of the mark.

and your idea that everyone here obsesses about Sky only also falls incredibly far sort (sic) of the mark.

i mean, i know that's the general consensus of you and your boys over at BotRadar, but you only have to look one thread away from this one to see
Valverde getting ripped a new one. but i guess that's too much to ask since there's nothing about Sky or the name of a Sky rider in the thread title, so who f*cking cares, right?

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Froome should have been in great form for this the way he improved through the Vuelta. It was understandable him being useless last year when he was past his peak for the year and had nothing to prove. He should have been at the peak of his powers today, especially after expressing how he hoped to do a job for Swift. Instead he was dropped by a bunch of sprinters. The course obviously wasn't for him today but no reason why he couldn't have ridden well in a domestique role and then crushed everyone in Lombardy next week (if he was on his best form). Something doesn't smell right to me.

 

[the sceptic]

Yet again your idea of proof falls desperately short of the mark.

so what is stopping you from posting in other threads?

dont think ive ever seen you make a post that wasnt in some sky related thread.

 

[No_Balls]

Froome should have been in great form for this the way he improved through the Vuelta. It was understandable him being useless last year when he was past his peak for the year and had nothing to prove. He should have been at the peak of his powers today, especially after expressing how he hoped to do a job for Swift. Instead he was dropped by a bunch of sprinters. The course obviously wasn't for him today but no reason why he couldn't have ridden well in a domestique role and then crushed everyone in Lombardy next week (if he was on his best form). Something doesn't smell right to me.

Feels somewhat odd to hear something like "the course didn't suit him" for a rider which were the best ever last year but last year they at least managed a somewhat believable decline towards the end. This just make it look like the chemical experiment that it is.

Understandable he skipped the time trial (2012 he'd been second). Would have been a laughing stock.

 

[Parker]

I think people forget that GB only have 15 World Tour riders. They don't have a lot of choice of riders and Froome, despite being a lousy one day rider, isn't too proud to turn up and do a domestique's job (unlike Contador for example).
And with GB tending to do too much work to early, it's hardly surprising that he DNFs.

 

[the sceptic]

I think people forget that GB only have 15 World Tour riders. They don't have a lot of choice of riders and Froome, despite being a lousy one day rider, isn't too proud to turn up and do a domestique's job (unlike Contador for example).
And with GB tending to do too much work to early, it's hardly surprising that he DNFs.

Did Froome do anything today? All I saw was him getting dropped by sprinters.

Greatest cycling talent of all time, but unable to finish a one day race.

 

[Parker]

Did Froome do anything today? All I saw was him getting dropped by sprinters.

Greatest cycling talent of all time, but unable to finish a one day race.

I've no idea what he did. I only watched the last two laps.

As for not finishing - who cares. Lots of good riders finished but won't be adding their results to their palmares on their websites. If you've won the Tour de France then finishing the worlds is no big deal.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Lots of good riders finished but won't be adding their results to their palmares on their websites. If you've won the Tour de France then finishing the worlds is no big deal.

But *not* finishing the Worlds - ever - that's something special and worth recording. Can anyone think of a rider with a career record to match that?

Froome's palmarès

 

[Parker]

But *not* finishing the Worlds - ever - that's something special and worth recording. Can anyone think of a rider with a career record to match that?

Froome's palmarès

A rider to match. Certainly.

Contador at the Worlds

2007: Couldn't be bothered
2008: DNF
2009: Couldn't be bothered
2010: Couldn't be bothered
2011: Banned
2012: 38th
2013: DNF
2014: Couldn't be bothered

That's his direct contemporary. One 38th after an almost missed season. At least Froome assisted one World Champion.

But forget that. Let's hang the bunting out for that 38th place. If GB had 50+ pros like Spain does would they ask Froome to ride? Probably not.

I realise finishing may be a big deal for the Irish. But I don't imagine GB give a toss these days.

Here's the more interesting thing Fergal. You make a living out of writing about cycling. I don't. But I can see the fairly obvious reason for this - a rider just helping out. I do worry when cycling journos seem to know less than me.
So what to make of cycling scribes? Are they actually fairly dumb people willing to work for minimum pay or are they just wanting to spin a contentious angle. Which is it Fergal?

 

[The Hitch]

Shouldn't someone be bumping the OPQS or Kwiatkowski threads?
Wouldn't want people thinking you were Sky obsessives

You still haven't answered whether, since you see Wiggins as a tt specialist, him climbing mountains at EPO speeds and beating pure climbers like Nibali, is suspicious.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Here's the more interesting thing

There really is no need to make this personal. You know the rules. Heed them.

 

[oldcrank]

Did Froomey drop out when Yukiya Arashiro and
Yukihiro Doi did so he and Michelle could take the
two lads out for dinner to brush up on their
conversational Japanese prior to the Dawg's
defence of his Saitama Criterium title in October?

 

[JRanton]

A rider to match. Certainly.

Contador at the Worlds

2007: Couldn't be bothered
2008: DNF
2009: Couldn't be bothered
2010: Couldn't be bothered
2011: Banned
2012: 38th
2013: DNF
2014: Couldn't be bothered

That's his direct contemporary. One 38th after an almost missed season. At least Froome assisted one World Champion.

But forget that. Let's hang the bunting out for that 38th place. If GB had 50+ pros like Spain does would they ask Froome to ride? Probably not.

I realise finishing may be a big deal for the Irish. But I don't imagine GB give a toss these days.

Here's the more interesting thing Fergal. You make a living out of writing about cycling. I don't. But I can see the fairly obvious reason for this - a rider just helping out. I do worry when cycling journos seem to know less than me.
So what to make of cycling scribes? Are they actually fairly dumb people willing to work for minimum pay or are they just wanting to spin a contentious angle. Which is it Fergal?

Good post.

 

[pastronef]

A rider to match. Certainly.

Contador at the Worlds

2007: Couldn't be bothered
2008: DNF
2009: Couldn't be bothered
2010: Couldn't be bothered
2011: Banned
2012: 38th
2013: DNF
2014: Couldn't be bothered

That's his direct contemporary. One 38th after an almost missed season. At least Froome assisted one World Champion.

But forget that. Let's hang the bunting out for that 38th place. If GB had 50+ pros like Spain does would they ask Froome to ride? Probably not.

I realise finishing may be a big deal for the Irish. But I don't imagine GB give a toss these days.

Here's the more interesting thing Fergal. You make a living out of writing about cycling. I don't. But I can see the fairly obvious reason for this - a rider just helping out. I do worry when cycling journos seem to know less than me.So what to make of cycling scribes? Are they actually fairly dumb people willing to work for minimum pay or are they just wanting to spin a contentious angle. Which is it Fergal?

good post +2

 

[sniper]

A rider to match. Certainly.

Contador at the Worlds

2007: Couldn't be bothered
2008: DNF
2009: Couldn't be bothered
2010: Couldn't be bothered
2011: Banned
2012: 38th
2013: DNF
2014: Couldn't be bothered

That's his direct contemporary. One 38th after an almost missed season. At least Froome assisted one World Champion.

But forget that. Let's hang the bunting out for that 38th place. If GB had 50+ pros like Spain does would they ask Froome to ride? Probably not.

I realise finishing may be a big deal for the Irish. But I don't imagine GB give a toss these days.

what's your point? that froome's WC record looks alot like, but doesn't quite match, that of another doper?

interesting to stress though how few WT pros GB have, and two of them winning the TdF in series. What are the odds?

btw, Parker, in here you know the nr.1 rule is to not get personal.
is the Sky commentary/critique too much for you? If so you can always ignore the thread. Free advice.