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thehog said:
Got it. So you agree with all points bar one in Bobbins post? Good.
I don't disagree with the backdated TUE.
I just want to know more about it.

What I don't understand is why you don't and seem to be intent on ensuring the discussion doesn't go anywhere near it.
 
The Hitch said:
As I pointed out in a post in a few weeks ago to mv that was of course as predicted totally ignored, there are a number of extremely damning incidents which when they are brough up all sky defenders including yourself magically disapear from the forum.

Starting with Bilharzia. It is impossible at the most basic level for Froome to have been cured from Bilharzia prior to the 2011 Vuelta as he claimed only for it to then reappear within his system.

But whenever this is pointed out you just disapear from the forum. Not you nor any other of the Sky defenders (which this week turns out to maybe have been as few as 3 or 4 if not less) have at any point engaged the Bilharzia issue. All just disapear from the forum whenever its brought up.

Same with the weight loss. Whenever someone (a point that has been made not just by us losers here but also by Bassons and Stokes and others) asks how Wiggins and Froome managed to lose all their weight while retaining all their power, coincidentally at the exact same time that Aicar and other weight loss drugs came onto the scene, pooof you disappear again.

Then come back in some other thread and try to claim that there isn't any evidence to convince you lol:)
Will bump this excellent post... good post Hitch.
 
Oct 16, 2010
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TailWindHome said:
I am

Establishing the veracity of allegations listed is key to identifying any potential conflict with regard to Brailsfords comments.
if over the past two to decades or so you have been in the lucky possession of a television and/or had access to newspapers, you'd start with the working assumption that bobbins' allegations are correct and that Sky doped to win 2 TdFs in a row.

I urge you to show us some photographic evidence of that cave you've been living in. Otherwise I'll assume you're here to troll.
 
Aug 2, 2012
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secret

thehog said:
I'll let you in on a secret...

Sky hired Leinders, LOL! :cool:
except it never was a secret.............so if team sky had no reason to keep

employment of leinders secret how likely is it that a doping programme

was being run?

Mark L
 
Aug 2, 2012
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relax don't do it when you're gonna...........

bobbins said:
Just relax and re-read your collection of Richard Moore and David Walsh propaganda books and you'll feel all fluffy and happy again like you did when Lance was winning.

ouch!......................except............................................

the lance era was the pits for myself...no one cheered more when he

was busted

if team sky are eventually exposed.............it will be the better for cycling

and i will be gladdened

for me still the greatest pointer to wiggo/froome doping to their tour wins

is just how skinny/strong they were

Mark L
 
Jul 21, 2012
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ebandit said:
except it never was a secret.............so if team sky had no reason to keep

employment of leinders secret how likely is it that a doping programme

was being run?

Mark L

I would say it is about 99% likely.

Hope that clears things up for you Marky.
 
ebandit said:
if team sky are eventually exposed.............it will be the better for cycling


Mark L

better for cycling? uh?
it will be a shock for the british public, for their sponsors and the believers.
but I think the peloton, riders and people working in it, knows each other, teams know about what they and other teams do.
so they'll be banned and the races will go on
not even Phinney or Gaimon will say anything if/when they'll get busted.

I read many times that Sky going down will be good for cycling. hahahah :D
 
Aug 2, 2012
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good

pastronef said:
better for cycling? uh?
it will be a shock for the british public, for their sponsors and the believers.
but I think the peloton, riders and people working in it, knows each other, teams know about what they and other teams do.
so they'll be banned and the races will go on
not even Phinney or Gaimon will say anything if/when they'll get busted.

I read many times that Sky going down will be good for cycling. hahahah :D
for anyone interested i'm a cycling fan...not a fan of any team/ride I support the rider I think deserves the win on the day

it's cycling doping has been too big a part of the sport for too long

no team is bigger than the whole sure exposure will cause a few waves

but help make way for a better future.................I hope!

Mark L
 
Jun 16, 2009
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pastronef said:
better for cycling? uh?
it will be a shock for the british public, for their sponsors and the believers.
but I think the peloton, riders and people working in it, knows each other, teams know about what they and other teams do.
so they'll be banned and the races will go on
not even Phinney or Gaimon will say anything if/when they'll get busted.

I read many times that Sky going down will be good for cycling. hahahah :D
Of course it will be good for cycling. It'll hopefully see off Velon too which is being stage managed by Sky from their offices in west London.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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markene2 said:
Wait how in lords name did you people finaly manage to convince ebandit that sky are doping???
He's just trying to get into the Clinic 12's good books while the sockpuppet drama dies down.
 
May 3, 2010
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bobbins said:
Of course it will be good for cycling. It'll hopefully see off Velon too which is being stage managed by Sky from their offices in west London.
We said that when Armstrong went down. Not much changed. We also send that after Festina.

All that'll happen is there will be a few sacrificial lambs - lifetime ban for Vroome, Sutton etc, DB will claim 'he had no idea', the media will be 'shocked' talk about tough coverage and then go back to sucking on the teat of the sportsman de jour.

The UCI will tell us that doping has stopped, and then the TDF will come around and they'll still be riding like they are on motorbikes up the mountains.

Rinse and repeat.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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6 months later in an interview with Walsh, DB will say he seriously considered retiring from the sport but decided to stiff upper lip it and all that eh what and soldier on. Think of England yadda yadda.
 
Jul 17, 2012
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bobbins said:
sorry for the delay, dodgy hotel wifi. I can but prefer not to incase it incriminates people close to the team. I've heard it repeated to me by people at BC but I don't know how widely known it really is.
I know it's not against forum rules, but it's probably best not to make reference to some information you have if you're not prepared to divulge said information. I'm not doubting you; it's just infuriating to be tempted with the promise of inside knowledge only to be let down at the vital moment.
 
Aug 2, 2012
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yikes!

markene2 said:
Wait how in lords name did you people finaly manage to convince ebandit that sky are doping???
except i have never committed myself either way..............as others here I am yet to discover the truth

for now there is no proof only suggestion

the only difference between the clinic 12 and myself..............our intrepid

dozen hope team sky are doping i hope that they are not

my own perceived probability of doping...wiggo 59%....froome 78%

Mark L
 
May 3, 2010
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Dear Wiggo said:
6 months later in an interview with Walsh, DB will say he seriously considered retiring from the sport but decided to stiff upper lip it and all that eh what and soldier on. Think of England yadda yadda.
So the question is who is going to be British cycling/Sky's Tammy Thomas? ie the victim of the system
 
Sep 29, 2012
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Mrs John Murphy said:
So the question is who is going to be British cycling/Sky's Tammy Thomas? ie the victim of the system
As much as the patterns are all there and in place, I would personally prefer a new, refreshing method / reason for the doping reveal that has been going on. Something noone expects.
 

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