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No problems. You can dream about Dawg being clean!TailWindHome said:No my friend.
It's bed time.
if over the past two to decades or so you have been in the lucky possession of a television and/or had access to newspapers, you'd start with the working assumption that bobbins' allegations are correct and that Sky doped to win 2 TdFs in a row.TailWindHome said:I am
Establishing the veracity of allegations listed is key to identifying any potential conflict with regard to Brailsfords comments.
except it never was a secret.............so if team sky had no reason to keepthehog said:I'll let you in on a secret...
Sky hired Leinders, LOL!![]()
bobbins said:Just relax and re-read your collection of Richard Moore and David Walsh propaganda books and you'll feel all fluffy and happy again like you did when Lance was winning.
ebandit said:except it never was a secret.............so if team sky had no reason to keep
employment of leinders secret how likely is it that a doping programme
was being run?
Mark L
ebandit said:if team sky are eventually exposed.............it will be the better for cycling
Mark L
for anyone interested i'm a cycling fan...not a fan of any team/ride I support the rider I think deserves the win on the daypastronef said:better for cycling? uh?
it will be a shock for the british public, for their sponsors and the believers.
but I think the peloton, riders and people working in it, knows each other, teams know about what they and other teams do.
so they'll be banned and the races will go on
not even Phinney or Gaimon will say anything if/when they'll get busted.
I read many times that Sky going down will be good for cycling. hahahah![]()
Of course it will be good for cycling. It'll hopefully see off Velon too which is being stage managed by Sky from their offices in west London.pastronef said:better for cycling? uh?
it will be a shock for the british public, for their sponsors and the believers.
but I think the peloton, riders and people working in it, knows each other, teams know about what they and other teams do.
so they'll be banned and the races will go on
not even Phinney or Gaimon will say anything if/when they'll get busted.
I read many times that Sky going down will be good for cycling. hahahah![]()
not at allthe sceptic said:Hope that clears things up for you Marky.
so Uci's friends (Sky) are stage managing Velon, who will try to be independent from Uci?bobbins said:Of course it will be good for cycling. It'll hopefully see off Velon too which is being stage managed by Sky from their offices in west London.
He's just trying to get into the Clinic 12's good books while the sockpuppet drama dies down.markene2 said:Wait how in lords name did you people finaly manage to convince ebandit that sky are doping???
We said that when Armstrong went down. Not much changed. We also send that after Festina.bobbins said:Of course it will be good for cycling. It'll hopefully see off Velon too which is being stage managed by Sky from their offices in west London.
I know it's not against forum rules, but it's probably best not to make reference to some information you have if you're not prepared to divulge said information. I'm not doubting you; it's just infuriating to be tempted with the promise of inside knowledge only to be let down at the vital moment.bobbins said:sorry for the delay, dodgy hotel wifi. I can but prefer not to incase it incriminates people close to the team. I've heard it repeated to me by people at BC but I don't know how widely known it really is.
except i have never committed myself either way..............as others here I am yet to discover the truthmarkene2 said:Wait how in lords name did you people finaly manage to convince ebandit that sky are doping???
So the question is who is going to be British cycling/Sky's Tammy Thomas? ie the victim of the systemDear Wiggo said:6 months later in an interview with Walsh, DB will say he seriously considered retiring from the sport but decided to stiff upper lip it and all that eh what and soldier on. Think of England yadda yadda.
As much as the patterns are all there and in place, I would personally prefer a new, refreshing method / reason for the doping reveal that has been going on. Something noone expects.Mrs John Murphy said:So the question is who is going to be British cycling/Sky's Tammy Thomas? ie the victim of the system
Do you say the same to RR or is it only in this case?Wallace and Gromit said:I know it's not against forum rules, but it's probably best not to make reference to some information you have if you're not prepared to divulge said information. I'm not doubting you; it's just infuriating to be tempted with the promise of inside knowledge only to be let down at the vital moment.
dozen know they are doping. you hope they are notebandit said:except i have never committed myself either way..............as others here I am yet to discover the truth
for now there is no proof only suggestion
the only difference between the clinic 12 and myself..............our intrepid
dozen hope team sky are doping i hope that they are not
my own perceived probability of doping...wiggo 59%....froome 78%
Mark L
Interestingebandit said:wiggo 59%....froome 78%
Anyone really. I don't recall anything quite so blatant from RR. It is genuinely childish, as primary school kids do the "I know something really important but I'm not going to tell you" thing all the time, just to put down the person they're not telling. Knowledge is power and all that!Netserk said:Do you say the same to RR or is it only in this case?
Good question. It's my personal public opinion, but not against forum rules, so it's not an admin issue.Netserk said:Is it just your private opinion, or are you advising him as an admin?
I think Wiggo is right at about 60%. (Some room for doubt but on balance, clearly more likely than not.)TailWindHome said:Interesting
I'd put Wiggins lower and Froome higher.
But there you go.
Not sure why Froome is so much more obvious.Wallace and Gromit said:I think Wiggo is right at about 60%. (Some room for doubt but on balance, clearly more likely than not.)
I'd put Froome at 99%.