perhaps the half life of the preparations for PR have been slightly longer than anticipated?
Re:
He's closing out his career with an attempt to win another gold medal on the track.
Dear Wiggo said:
He's closing out his career with an attempt to win another gold medal on the track.
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Re: Re:
Actually on this spud is right. I don't get why sometimes you guys fight tooth and nail over this petty *** challenging pretty vanilla points.
We all know Wiggins doped. Even laurel tacitly admitted it so his sockpuppets no doubt know the same, but when you respond angrily to someone merely saying that Wiggins is going to track with "Wiggins doped"- a total non sequitur, you are showing just how easy it is to get to you.
Benotti69 said:
Actually on this spud is right. I don't get why sometimes you guys fight tooth and nail over this petty *** challenging pretty vanilla points.
We all know Wiggins doped. Even laurel tacitly admitted it so his sockpuppets no doubt know the same, but when you respond angrily to someone merely saying that Wiggins is going to track with "Wiggins doped"- a total non sequitur, you are showing just how easy it is to get to you.
Re: Sky
Criterium Dauphine 2011 (won by Wiggins):
SATURDAY – Stage 6 Les Gets – Le Collet d’Allevard
The doc is in the hotel’s bar, laptop open, phone pressed to his ear, looking concerned.
Rigoberto Uran has been suffering with breathing difficulties for the past couple of days and Dr Freeman is trying to get a Therapeutic Use Exemption for a drug to treat him.
“It can be very tricky, especially at the weekends,” he says. Yesterday, Dr Freeman contacted the race’s anti-doping doctor and put the case for a TUE. The drug is a steroid that can mimic a corticosteroid in the urine and can be misused.
“Rigo has got a chest problem,” he says. “With most asthma patients, you will never find out specifically what causes it. We’ve tested for pollen and in Rigo’s case it doesn’t appear to be that.
“The ADAMS [World Anti-Doping Agency’s Administration and Management System] website can be tricky. Your worst fear is that you’re stuck in the mountains with no internet connection but we would not give anything that’s on the list to a rider until we had everything confirmed through the proper channels.”
Could he not use the ADAMS hotline and make a phone call? “That works well Monday to Friday but not so well at the weekends,” he says wryly, acknowledging that the onus is always on the athlete and the team doctor to ensure everything is done properly.
It took a few tries but eventually, he got through to Dr Mario Zorzoli of the UCI and gained the necessary permission.
But isn’t there an argument that if Uran is unwell and his breathing is seriously affected, he should pull out of the race? “He may well do that. But he’s an ambitious young man who wants to support Bradley and he wants to secure his Tour team.
“We are not talking about performance-enhancement here. The TUE is designed to enable an athlete to take medication that a normal human being would be prescribed by a doctor. It cannot be right that you and I could go to a doctor and be prescribed something that an athlete with the same condition could not use.”
Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/all ... WVoXgKm.99
Criterium Dauphine 2011 (won by Wiggins):
SATURDAY – Stage 6 Les Gets – Le Collet d’Allevard
The doc is in the hotel’s bar, laptop open, phone pressed to his ear, looking concerned.
Rigoberto Uran has been suffering with breathing difficulties for the past couple of days and Dr Freeman is trying to get a Therapeutic Use Exemption for a drug to treat him.
“It can be very tricky, especially at the weekends,” he says. Yesterday, Dr Freeman contacted the race’s anti-doping doctor and put the case for a TUE. The drug is a steroid that can mimic a corticosteroid in the urine and can be misused.
“Rigo has got a chest problem,” he says. “With most asthma patients, you will never find out specifically what causes it. We’ve tested for pollen and in Rigo’s case it doesn’t appear to be that.
“The ADAMS [World Anti-Doping Agency’s Administration and Management System] website can be tricky. Your worst fear is that you’re stuck in the mountains with no internet connection but we would not give anything that’s on the list to a rider until we had everything confirmed through the proper channels.”
Could he not use the ADAMS hotline and make a phone call? “That works well Monday to Friday but not so well at the weekends,” he says wryly, acknowledging that the onus is always on the athlete and the team doctor to ensure everything is done properly.
It took a few tries but eventually, he got through to Dr Mario Zorzoli of the UCI and gained the necessary permission.
But isn’t there an argument that if Uran is unwell and his breathing is seriously affected, he should pull out of the race? “He may well do that. But he’s an ambitious young man who wants to support Bradley and he wants to secure his Tour team.
“We are not talking about performance-enhancement here. The TUE is designed to enable an athlete to take medication that a normal human being would be prescribed by a doctor. It cannot be right that you and I could go to a doctor and be prescribed something that an athlete with the same condition could not use.”
Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/all ... WVoXgKm.99
[/quote]
Actually on this spud is right. I don't get why sometimes you guys fight tooth and nail over this petty **** challenging pretty vanilla points.
We all know Wiggins doped. Even laurel tacitly admitted it so his sockpuppets no doubt know the same, but when you respond angrily to someone merely saying that Wiggins is going to track with "Wiggins doped"- a total non sequitur, you are showing just how easy it is to get to you.[/quote]
totally agree, up until the point where you said that we all 'know' wiggins doped. We don't know anything of the sort.
Actually on this spud is right. I don't get why sometimes you guys fight tooth and nail over this petty **** challenging pretty vanilla points.
We all know Wiggins doped. Even laurel tacitly admitted it so his sockpuppets no doubt know the same, but when you respond angrily to someone merely saying that Wiggins is going to track with "Wiggins doped"- a total non sequitur, you are showing just how easy it is to get to you.[/quote]
totally agree, up until the point where you said that we all 'know' wiggins doped. We don't know anything of the sort.
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wiggo may be a total c**** he may not be..............ok to say that he is as it's just an opinion
without doubt everyone does not know wiggo/froome doped...........it's likely but it's equally likely that the team sky chemistry sets concocted a legal 'pick me up' for those wins........
Mark L
without doubt everyone does not know wiggo/froome doped...........it's likely but it's equally likely that the team sky chemistry sets concocted a legal 'pick me up' for those wins........
Mark L
Re:
a doping scenario is more likely as it actually explains the facts.
the legal 'pick me up' scenario leaves many facts unexplained.
There are many cases in point:
Sky not revealing Froome's pre-2011 vuelta data. Fact.
doping scenario explains it.
the other scenario doesn't.
Wiggins' public pro-Lance statements. Fact.
doping scenario explains it.
the other scenario doesn't.
Sky's 2012 USPS-like dominance. Fact.
doping scenario explains it.
the other scenario doesn't.
etc.
So while the other scenario can perhaps not be discarded, it's certainly not 'equally likely' as a doping scenario.
objectively, it's not equally likely.ebandit said:
a doping scenario is more likely as it actually explains the facts.
the legal 'pick me up' scenario leaves many facts unexplained.
There are many cases in point:
Sky not revealing Froome's pre-2011 vuelta data. Fact.
doping scenario explains it.
the other scenario doesn't.
Wiggins' public pro-Lance statements. Fact.
doping scenario explains it.
the other scenario doesn't.
Sky's 2012 USPS-like dominance. Fact.
doping scenario explains it.
the other scenario doesn't.
etc.
So while the other scenario can perhaps not be discarded, it's certainly not 'equally likely' as a doping scenario.
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Re:
And Porte looks set to win Catalunya, I guess the whole team are getting the white bags... I expect to see Sky on the podium of almost all the spring classics, no Boonen or Fabian... how many wins for Sky so far this season?
Any bets on Porte doing the double if Froome doesn't come good, or is he cactus already?
I'm just disgusted with the blatancy of it all...
MartinGT said:
And Porte looks set to win Catalunya, I guess the whole team are getting the white bags... I expect to see Sky on the podium of almost all the spring classics, no Boonen or Fabian... how many wins for Sky so far this season?
Any bets on Porte doing the double if Froome doesn't come good, or is he cactus already?
I'm just disgusted with the blatancy of it all...
What a fantastic win by G, congratulations to him, he's really maturing into the rider he has long promised to be. Top bloke
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Looks like Sky are going to win the lot this year. G's transformation has been utterly ridiculous and I say that as someone who has been a fan of his throughout his career. The way he got distanced on the Paterberg (due to poor positioning) but then just closed the gap and immediately dropped all bar two riders on the Kwaremont was pretty scary. He will probably win Flanders and Roubaix now as well, he is so strong he looks like he can just drop anyone whenever he feels like it.
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