Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Ruby United]

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Methinks Kwia will easily fill LRP's boots and become Froome's last man standing.

G will fill LRP's boots and Kwiat will fill G's boots. Landa will be nowhere like Nieve.

Nieve has had the best 2 years of his career (per CQ ranking) since joining Sky. I'm wary of Landa because he did make a big jump forward last year but also proved the Giro wasn't a one off with his end of season form. He should be very good with Sky, the question is how good.

Try watching Gardeccia Val di Fassa stage in Giro 2011 to see what a rider Nieve was. He's nowhere near that level since he joined Sky

What a stage that was, and it's one of my first memories of the Giro!
However, Nieve has matched his Euskatel form at Sky, though I wouldn't say he's been better. he's remained quite consistent throughout his career.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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yep, the puppy fat is gone.
Must be the 7-8 hour training stints.

 

[thehog]

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yep, the puppy fat is gone.
Must be the 7-8 hour training stints.

Eating is wasted energy. I don't know why some people bother doing it...

Although looking at the photographs, he just changed his hairstyle.

 

[Jacques de Molay]

Re: Sky

I wonder how many Sky fans were calling out Landa last season now are looking forward to him improving with his Beet Juice diet and eating organic eggs.

Besides David Walsh?

I can't wait to read his perspective on Landa, Version 2016

 

[thehog]

Re: Sky

Not sure on the background on this tweet... looks interesting.

 

[42x16ss]

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It was said with a hint of sarcasm, to be clear.

That said, for an endurance athlete used to eating carbs/sugars/etc to fuel activity, a keto diet for 6 weeks would actually yield significant fat loss.
The real question is how do you do this while INCREASING power over long periods. That is the thing that Sky- and only Sky- have managed to do.

Full. Natty. Bruh.

this has been my position.

Kennaugh rides the World Team Pursuit champs at 71kg, within 4 months, rides the TdF at 65. #NOTNORMAL.

always been the greatest hole in their PR talking point, about a caloric deficit diet, how the heck do they peak and maintain their power or increase their FTP trying to peak for Alpe d'Huez. just not credible. incredulous. #notnormal. abnormal. paradox. Sky theory

The Chicken managed it. If only someone was able to tap into the medical knowledge that he had at his disposal

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Sky

Not sure on the background on this tweet... looks interesting.

 

[hrotha]

I'd like to believe that, but it's... what, third, fourth hand information?

 

[samhocking]

Re: Sky

Not sure on the background on this tweet... looks interesting.

So widespread, only Peter and his anonymous triathlete friend knows about it so far lol!

 

[samhocking]

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yep, the puppy fat is gone.
Must be the 7-8 hour training stints.

Eating is wasted energy. I don't know why some people bother doing it...

Although looking at the photographs, he just changed his hairstyle.

Kwiatovski was 11th in his first Tour de France in 2013 with QS chasing white jersey which he almost won iirc. I doubt he's lost much weight since then. Certainly no more than you do anyway if heading to Tour.

 

[samhocking]

Exactly the same position in UKAD that Peter Fifield has - Zero! I do have a real pro cyclist friend though, but still Zero!

 

[samhocking]

I had a chat with him about the widespread belief in UKAD that Sky are dirty too, but that's as far as we could take the conversation. I'm amazed how far Peter & his friend managed to get with 'a chat'.

 

[samhocking]

Unfortunately they seem to have reached the 140 char limit and so only the hypothesis and the vital link in Peters relationship with UKAD via his pro triathlete friend is known about so far. Perhaps they are being paid off by UKAD, WADA, UCI + Sky to keep schtum, we will never know....

 

[gillan1969]

Re: Sky

it would only mean that UKAD had joined the rational world...

 

[samhocking]

How the heck did he get 11th in 2013 Tour de France with QS carrying all that puppy fat over the mountains! Maybe Sky will get him so thin this year on their million £ wonderdrug in 2015 he'll be almost invisible to the other teams - marginal gains lol!

 

[gillan1969]

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How the heck did he get 11th in 2013 Tour de France with QS carrying all that puppy fat over the mountains! Maybe Sky will get him so thin this year on their million £ wonderdrug in 2015 he'll be almost invisible to the other teams - marginal gains lol!

maybe he's good?

 

[thehog]

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How the heck did he get 11th in 2013 Tour de France with QS carrying all that puppy fat over the mountains! Maybe Sky will get him so thin this year on their million £ wonderdrug in 2015 he'll be almost invisible to the other teams - marginal gains lol!

maybe he's good?

Apparently he did a test in 2007 with 17% body fat. He just lost fat, that's it.

 

[veganrob]

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Unfortunately they seem to have reached the 140 char limit and so only the hypothesis and the vital link in Peters relationship with UKAD via his pro triathlete friend is known about so far. Perhaps they are being paid off by UKAD, WADA, UCI + Sky to keep schtum, we will never know....

Wow, you sure have jumped to a lot of conclusions from one tweet

 

[veganrob]

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How the heck did he get 11th in 2013 Tour de France with QS carrying all that puppy fat over the mountains! Maybe Sky will get him so thin this year on their million £ wonderdrug in 2015 he'll be almost invisible to the other teams - marginal gains lol!

Yeah, how the heck did he do that. Especially with QS. Imagine how much better he will be now doing it cleans.

 

[The Hitch]

Does anyone remember the poster jamsque? He was one of the Sky fans who left the forum for Team Sky Fans forums back in 2012, because there the mods can make sure nobody says anything too "nasty" about sky and all those good guys.

Anyway the reason I mention it is because some of you may remember the 3 days of Depanne thread in 2011. Kwiatkowski came 3rd. Rosseler came 1st and Radioshack had one other rider in the top 10.

This was too much for jamsque. He knew they were doping. He spammed the clinic and the other subforums about what a disgrace it was that these obvious dopers were doing this. About how the other riders were being robbed in plain sight. He knew because they did a 1-3 at the 3 days of Deppanne.

Of course when Sky did a 1-3 at the Olympics and 1-2 at the Tour de France, Jamsque saw it totally differently. It was "wrong" to accuse someone of doping based on performances. And he couldn't understand how anyone could possibly think he lifelong crush - Bradley Wiggins, would ever do anything wrong.

Anyway, now that Kwiatkowski has joined all jamsque's favs at Sky, I'm wondering how his brain is going to reconcile that.

 

[peloton]

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Does anyone remember the poster jamsque? He was one of the Sky fans who left the forum for Team Sky Fans forums back in 2012, because there the mods there can make sure nobody says anything too "nasty" about sky and all those good guys.

Anyway the reason I mention it is because some of you may remember the 3 days of Depanne thread in 2011. Kwiatkowski came 3rd. Rosseler came 1st and Radioshack had one other rider in the top 10.

This was too much for jamsque. He knew they were doping. He spammed the clinic and the other subforums about what a disgrace it was that these obvious dopers were doing this. About how the other riders were being robbed in plain sight. He knew because they did a 1-3 at the 3 days of Deppanne.

Of course when Sky did a 1-3 at the Olympics and 1-2 at the Tour de France, Jamsque saw it totally differently. It was "wrong" to accuse someone of doping based on performances. And he couldn't understand how anyone could possibly think he lifelong crush - Bradley Wiggins, would ever do anything wrong.

Anyway, now that Kwiatkowski has joined all jamsque's favs at Sky, I'm wondering how his brain is going to reconcile that.

Probably how any Sky fan will rationalize Landa etc.
Will be interesting to see how the new signings ride this year.

 

[blackcat]

Re: Sky

Not sure on the background on this tweet... looks interesting.

Hog, I cant see that post on his account, did he take it down?

 

[blackcat]

hoggy found it

 

[peloton]

@blackcat, click the tweets with reply, it's still there

 

[blackcat]

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@blackcat, click the tweets with reply, it's still there

yep, got it, cheers