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How the heck did he get 11th in 2013 Tour de France with QS carrying all that puppy fat over the mountains! Maybe Sky will get him so thin this year on their million £ wonderdrug in 2015 he'll be almost invisible to the other teams - marginal gains lol!
 
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samhocking said:

How the heck did he get 11th in 2013 Tour de France with QS carrying all that puppy fat over the mountains! Maybe Sky will get him so thin this year on their million £ wonderdrug in 2015 he'll be almost invisible to the other teams - marginal gains lol!
maybe he's good? ;)
 
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gillan1969 said:
samhocking said:

How the heck did he get 11th in 2013 Tour de France with QS carrying all that puppy fat over the mountains! Maybe Sky will get him so thin this year on their million £ wonderdrug in 2015 he'll be almost invisible to the other teams - marginal gains lol!
maybe he's good? ;)

Apparently he did a test in 2007 with 17% body fat. He just lost fat, that's it.
 
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samhocking said:
Unfortunately they seem to have reached the 140 char limit and so only the hypothesis and the vital link in Peters relationship with UKAD via his pro triathlete friend is known about so far. Perhaps they are being paid off by UKAD, WADA, UCI + Sky to keep schtum, we will never know....
Wow, you sure have jumped to a lot of conclusions from one tweet
 
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samhocking said:

How the heck did he get 11th in 2013 Tour de France with QS carrying all that puppy fat over the mountains! Maybe Sky will get him so thin this year on their million £ wonderdrug in 2015 he'll be almost invisible to the other teams - marginal gains lol!
Yeah, how the heck did he do that. Especially with QS. Imagine how much better he will be now doing it cleans.
 
Does anyone remember the poster jamsque? He was one of the Sky fans who left the forum for Team Sky Fans forums back in 2012, because there the mods can make sure nobody says anything too "nasty" about sky and all those good guys.

Anyway the reason I mention it is because some of you may remember the 3 days of Depanne thread in 2011. Kwiatkowski came 3rd. Rosseler came 1st and Radioshack had one other rider in the top 10.

This was too much for jamsque. He knew they were doping. He spammed the clinic and the other subforums about what a disgrace it was that these obvious dopers were doing this. About how the other riders were being robbed in plain sight. He knew because they did a 1-3 at the 3 days of Deppanne.

Of course when Sky did a 1-3 at the Olympics and 1-2 at the Tour de France, Jamsque saw it totally differently. It was "wrong" to accuse someone of doping based on performances. And he couldn't understand how anyone could possibly think he lifelong crush - Bradley Wiggins, would ever do anything wrong.

Anyway, now that Kwiatkowski has joined all jamsque's favs at Sky, I'm wondering how his brain is going to reconcile that.
 
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The Hitch said:
Does anyone remember the poster jamsque? He was one of the Sky fans who left the forum for Team Sky Fans forums back in 2012, because there the mods there can make sure nobody says anything too "nasty" about sky and all those good guys.

Anyway the reason I mention it is because some of you may remember the 3 days of Depanne thread in 2011. Kwiatkowski came 3rd. Rosseler came 1st and Radioshack had one other rider in the top 10.

This was too much for jamsque. He knew they were doping. He spammed the clinic and the other subforums about what a disgrace it was that these obvious dopers were doing this. About how the other riders were being robbed in plain sight. He knew because they did a 1-3 at the 3 days of Deppanne.

Of course when Sky did a 1-3 at the Olympics and 1-2 at the Tour de France, Jamsque saw it totally differently. It was "wrong" to accuse someone of doping based on performances. And he couldn't understand how anyone could possibly think he lifelong crush - Bradley Wiggins, would ever do anything wrong.

Anyway, now that Kwiatkowski has joined all jamsque's favs at Sky, I'm wondering how his brain is going to reconcile that.
Probably how any Sky fan will rationalize Landa etc. :)
Will be interesting to see how the new signings ride this year.
 
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peloton said:
The Hitch said:
Does anyone remember the poster jamsque? He was one of the Sky fans who left the forum for Team Sky Fans forums back in 2012, because there the mods there can make sure nobody says anything too "nasty" about sky and all those good guys.

Anyway the reason I mention it is because some of you may remember the 3 days of Depanne thread in 2011. Kwiatkowski came 3rd. Rosseler came 1st and Radioshack had one other rider in the top 10.

This was too much for jamsque. He knew they were doping. He spammed the clinic and the other subforums about what a disgrace it was that these obvious dopers were doing this. About how the other riders were being robbed in plain sight. He knew because they did a 1-3 at the 3 days of Deppanne.

Of course when Sky did a 1-3 at the Olympics and 1-2 at the Tour de France, Jamsque saw it totally differently. It was "wrong" to accuse someone of doping based on performances. And he couldn't understand how anyone could possibly think he lifelong crush - Bradley Wiggins, would ever do anything wrong.

Anyway, now that Kwiatkowski has joined all jamsque's favs at Sky, I'm wondering how his brain is going to reconcile that.
Probably how any Sky fan will rationalize Landa etc. :)
Will be interesting to see how the new signings ride this year.
I don't remember anyone except taxus defending Landa when Astana was going full genius, I would love to see skybots defending Landa when he destroys Giro but I am worried Landa and Kwiatkowski will suck big time because they don't speak the correct native language.
 
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burning said:
peloton said:
The Hitch said:
Does anyone remember the poster jamsque? He was one of the Sky fans who left the forum for Team Sky Fans forums back in 2012, because there the mods there can make sure nobody says anything too "nasty" about sky and all those good guys.

Anyway the reason I mention it is because some of you may remember the 3 days of Depanne thread in 2011. Kwiatkowski came 3rd. Rosseler came 1st and Radioshack had one other rider in the top 10.

This was too much for jamsque. He knew they were doping. He spammed the clinic and the other subforums about what a disgrace it was that these obvious dopers were doing this. About how the other riders were being robbed in plain sight. He knew because they did a 1-3 at the 3 days of Deppanne.

Of course when Sky did a 1-3 at the Olympics and 1-2 at the Tour de France, Jamsque saw it totally differently. It was "wrong" to accuse someone of doping based on performances. And he couldn't understand how anyone could possibly think he lifelong crush - Bradley Wiggins, would ever do anything wrong.

Anyway, now that Kwiatkowski has joined all jamsque's favs at Sky, I'm wondering how his brain is going to reconcile that.
Probably how any Sky fan will rationalize Landa etc. :)
Will be interesting to see how the new signings ride this year.
I don't remember anyone except taxus defending Landa when Astana was going full genius, I would love to see skybots defending Landa when he destroys Giro but I am worried Landa and Kwiatkowski will suck big time because they don't speak the correct native language.
Good point.
I'm looking forward to Walsh writing how cleans the Sky Spanish riders are :D
 
I'm really interested in how the Sky fans/Walsh will deal with Landa. He could go back to riding at his pre-2015 levels and then they have to deal with the fact that Sky signed an obvious doper hoping he would stay on whatever program he was on. Or he could continue to destroy the road like he did in 2015 and they'll have to think of some way to justify that he was clean all along. Either way they were all screaming doper when he was dominating the Giro along with the rest of Astana, which is why it's always been puzzling to me as to why Sky would ever even touch him with a 10-foot pole. I think their hubris is beginning to cloud their judgement.
 
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zlev11 said:
I'm really interested in how the Sky fans/Walsh will deal with Landa. He could go back to riding at his pre-2015 levels and then they have to deal with the fact that Sky signed an obvious doper hoping he would stay on whatever program he was on. Or he could continue to destroy the road like he did in 2015 and they'll have to think of some way to justify that he was clean all along. Either way they were all screaming doper when he was dominating the Giro along with the rest of Astana, which is why it's always been puzzling to me as to why Sky would ever even touch him with a 10-foot pole. I think their hubris is beginning to cloud their judgement.
I'm actually just now re-watching some of the Giro stages. Astana was as insane as the UK Postal.
Will be great to hear how Sky fans (& Walsh) rationalize Landa :)
 
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peloton said:
zlev11 said:
I'm really interested in how the Sky fans/Walsh will deal with Landa. He could go back to riding at his pre-2015 levels and then they have to deal with the fact that Sky signed an obvious doper hoping he would stay on whatever program he was on. Or he could continue to destroy the road like he did in 2015 and they'll have to think of some way to justify that he was clean all along. Either way they were all screaming doper when he was dominating the Giro along with the rest of Astana, which is why it's always been puzzling to me as to why Sky would ever even touch him with a 10-foot pole. I think their hubris is beginning to cloud their judgement.
I'm actually just now re-watching some of the Giro stages. Astana was as insane as the UK Postal.
Will be great to hear how Sky fans (& Walsh) rationalize Landa :)
It was simply insane that how he destroyed Contador on a %4 road, though it did help that Contador had to go all out before Mortirolo and bridge a 50 sec gap while Landa was pacing a weaker rider with a tempo that was perfectly comfortable for him and did nothing before he went full genius.
 
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Landa was lauded as a huge talent some years ago, but he never showed that until the Giro last year.
Walsh tweeted how he 'couldn't enjoy the Giro', I reckon partly when Landa & Astana ripped the bunch apart, on most climbs.
He is a dirty Spaniard, after all.. ;)
 
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peloton said:
burning said:
peloton said:
The Hitch said:
Does anyone remember the poster jamsque? He was one of the Sky fans who left the forum for Team Sky Fans forums back in 2012, because there the mods there can make sure nobody says anything too "nasty" about sky and all those good guys.

Anyway the reason I mention it is because some of you may remember the 3 days of Depanne thread in 2011. Kwiatkowski came 3rd. Rosseler came 1st and Radioshack had one other rider in the top 10.

This was too much for jamsque. He knew they were doping. He spammed the clinic and the other subforums about what a disgrace it was that these obvious dopers were doing this. About how the other riders were being robbed in plain sight. He knew because they did a 1-3 at the 3 days of Deppanne.

Of course when Sky did a 1-3 at the Olympics and 1-2 at the Tour de France, Jamsque saw it totally differently. It was "wrong" to accuse someone of doping based on performances. And he couldn't understand how anyone could possibly think he lifelong crush - Bradley Wiggins, would ever do anything wrong.

Anyway, now that Kwiatkowski has joined all jamsque's favs at Sky, I'm wondering how his brain is going to reconcile that.
Probably how any Sky fan will rationalize Landa etc. :)
Will be interesting to see how the new signings ride this year.
I don't remember anyone except taxus defending Landa when Astana was going full genius, I would love to see skybots defending Landa when he destroys Giro but I am worried Landa and Kwiatkowski will suck big time because they don't speak the correct native language.
Good point.
I'm looking forward to Walsh writing how cleans the Sky Spanish riders are :D
We all know Walsh is either going to ignore it totally (like he does pretty much everything that doesn't reflect on Sky) or play it down totally. "I didn't agree with signing Landa but there's no evidence against him" would be classic Walsh.
 
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zlev11 said:
I'm really interested in how the Sky fans/Walsh will deal with Landa. He could go back to riding at his pre-2015 levels and then they have to deal with the fact that Sky signed an obvious doper hoping he would stay on whatever program he was on. Or he could continue to destroy the road like he did in 2015 and they'll have to think of some way to justify that he was clean all along. Either way they were all screaming doper when he was dominating the Giro along with the rest of Astana, which is why it's always been puzzling to me as to why Sky would ever even touch him with a 10-foot pole. I think their hubris is beginning to cloud their judgement.
Yet so many have used the "you can't judge/convict/know a rider is doping based on performance" drivel when it comes to Sky. Never fails to amuse.
 
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peloton said:
This has nothing to do with Contador.

Landa was lauded as a huge talent some years ago, but he never showed that until the Giro this year.
Walsh tweeted how he 'couldn't enjoy the Giro', I reckon partly when Landa & Astana ripped the bunch apart, on most climbs.
He is a dirty Spaniard, after all.. ;)
He could always write some bs about Basques being different from Spaniards and their culture being very similar to the british.
We won't hear anything negative about Landa from him, you can count on that.
 
........i was happy to see landa ride well with astana as i will be happy to see him ride well with team sky

........i always hoped lrp would under perform with team sky as i hope he under performs with bmc

viewers can only call it as they see it there is no need for absolute consistency onus is on riders to prove

themselves not fans / commentators

Mark L
 
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red_flanders said:
zlev11 said:
I'm really interested in how the Sky fans/Walsh will deal with Landa. He could go back to riding at his pre-2015 levels and then they have to deal with the fact that Sky signed an obvious doper hoping he would stay on whatever program he was on. Or he could continue to destroy the road like he did in 2015 and they'll have to think of some way to justify that he was clean all along. Either way they were all screaming doper when he was dominating the Giro along with the rest of Astana, which is why it's always been puzzling to me as to why Sky would ever even touch him with a 10-foot pole. I think their hubris is beginning to cloud their judgement.
Yet so many have used the "you can't judge/convict/know a rider is doping based on performance" drivel when it comes to Sky. Never fails to amuse.
Only someone who is new to the sport would say something like that...
 
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peloton said:
This has nothing to do with Contador.

Landa was lauded as a huge talent some years ago, but he never showed that until the Giro this year.
Walsh tweeted how he 'couldn't enjoy the Giro', I reckon partly when Landa & Astana ripped the bunch apart, on most climbs.
He is a dirty Spaniard, after all.. ;)
I think I see it now.

Brailsford has told Walsh that Sky are deliberately signing doped riders so that he can make them clean.

all those evil non British barbarians just wouldn't convert to Sky's clean policy. So the missionaries at Sky are going to do it themselves. Sign dodgy riders, show them how to do it clean, then send them around the sport to spread the good word.
 
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peloton said:
red_flanders said:
zlev11 said:
I'm really interested in how the Sky fans/Walsh will deal with Landa. He could go back to riding at his pre-2015 levels and then they have to deal with the fact that Sky signed an obvious doper hoping he would stay on whatever program he was on. Or he could continue to destroy the road like he did in 2015 and they'll have to think of some way to justify that he was clean all along. Either way they were all screaming doper when he was dominating the Giro along with the rest of Astana, which is why it's always been puzzling to me as to why Sky would ever even touch him with a 10-foot pole. I think their hubris is beginning to cloud their judgement.
Yet so many have used the "you can't judge/convict/know a rider is doping based on performance" drivel when it comes to Sky. Never fails to amuse.
Only someone who is new to the sport would say something like that...
New like David Walsh?
 
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