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The Hitch said:
peloton said:
This has nothing to do with Contador.

Landa was lauded as a huge talent some years ago, but he never showed that until the Giro this year.
Walsh tweeted how he 'couldn't enjoy the Giro', I reckon partly when Landa & Astana ripped the bunch apart, on most climbs.
He is a dirty Spaniard, after all.. ;)
I think I see it now.

Brailsford has told Walsh that Sky are deliberately signing doped riders so that he can make them clean.

all those evil non British barbarians just wouldn't convert to Sky's clean policy. So the missionaries at Sky are going to do it themselves. Sign dodgy riders, show them how to do it clean, then send them around the sport to spread the good word.
I've got $100 cash that says someone advances a theory along those lines at some point this season. Anyone want to bet against it?
 
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red_flanders said:
peloton said:
red_flanders said:
zlev11 said:
I'm really interested in how the Sky fans/Walsh will deal with Landa. He could go back to riding at his pre-2015 levels and then they have to deal with the fact that Sky signed an obvious doper hoping he would stay on whatever program he was on. Or he could continue to destroy the road like he did in 2015 and they'll have to think of some way to justify that he was clean all along. Either way they were all screaming doper when he was dominating the Giro along with the rest of Astana, which is why it's always been puzzling to me as to why Sky would ever even touch him with a 10-foot pole. I think their hubris is beginning to cloud their judgement.
Yet so many have used the "you can't judge/convict/know a rider is doping based on performance" drivel when it comes to Sky. Never fails to amuse.
Only someone who is new to the sport would say something like that...
New like David Walsh?
Indeed.
Having it both ways ain't working.
 
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Mayomaniac said:
peloton said:
This has nothing to do with Contador.

Landa was lauded as a huge talent some years ago, but he never showed that until the Giro this year.
Walsh tweeted how he 'couldn't enjoy the Giro', I reckon partly when Landa & Astana ripped the bunch apart, on most climbs.
He is a dirty Spaniard, after all.. ;)
He could always write some bs about Basques being different from Spaniards and their culture being very similar to the british.
We won't hear anything negative about Landa from him, you can count on that.
Makes sense. Afterall Indurain was clean (according to Skylore). And the weather is similar. None of that high employment that you get from uncivilized doped countries too.
 
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The Hitch said:
Mayomaniac said:
peloton said:
This has nothing to do with Contador.

Landa was lauded as a huge talent some years ago, but he never showed that until the Giro this year.
Walsh tweeted how he 'couldn't enjoy the Giro', I reckon partly when Landa & Astana ripped the bunch apart, on most climbs.
He is a dirty Spaniard, after all.. ;)
He could always write some bs about Basques being different from Spaniards and their culture being very similar to the british.
We won't hear anything negative about Landa from him, you can count on that.
Makes sense. Afterall Indurain was clean (according to Skylore). And the weather is similar. None of that high employment that you get from uncivilized doped countries too.

Tailwinds, 17% body fat, Weight loss in 3 weeks for new signings, Turning Spanish dopers clean - The Chuch of Sky with Reverend Brailsford and Brother Walsh.
 
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peloton said:
Landa was lauded as a huge talent some years ago, but he never showed that until the Giro last year.
Walsh tweeted how he 'couldn't enjoy the Giro', I reckon partly when Landa & Astana ripped the bunch apart, on most climbs.
He is a dirty Spaniard, after all.. ;)
Too early to repost this?

 
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Dear Wiggo said:
peloton said:
Landa was lauded as a huge talent some years ago, but he never showed that until the Giro last year.
Walsh tweeted how he 'couldn't enjoy the Giro', I reckon partly when Landa & Astana ripped the bunch apart, on most climbs.
He is a dirty Spaniard, after all.. ;)
Too early to repost this?

Walsh has put on the kilos...... :D
 
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veganrob said:
Team Sky knows they can do or say whatever they want and their mindless fans will believe it.
...........this is such an arrogant attitude........................sky fans have no unified thought

some cheer them on whatever remaining blinkered........it's just sport after all

some truly believe and many reserve judgement until the whole truth is known

Mark L
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
peloton said:
Landa was lauded as a huge talent some years ago, but he never showed that until the Giro last year.
Walsh tweeted how he 'couldn't enjoy the Giro', I reckon partly when Landa & Astana ripped the bunch apart, on most climbs.
He is a dirty Spaniard, after all.. ;)
Too early to repost this?

Fits perfectly, bravo :D
 
Via @DUBCycleWeather, maybe it was posted before but I'm not checking 1800 pages to find out:



Someone didn't get the memo about chocolate... if I had all that stuff on a 4 hour ride I'd get diabetes.

It's not there any more btw - right now they just have the bidon.
 
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vedrafjord said:
Via @DUBCycleWeather, maybe it was posted before but I'm not checking 1800 pages to find out:



Someone didn't get the memo about chocolate... if I had all that stuff on a 4 hour ride I'd get diabetes.

It's not there any more btw - right now they just have the bidon.
It's still there: http://www.scienceinsport.com/sis-products/sis-team-sky-4-hour-fuel-pack/

Nothing like science trying to flog off a 4-hour ride pack that replicates a KFC barrel of 21 pieces of finger lickin' good fried chicken.
 
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vedrafjord said:
Via @DUBCycleWeather, maybe it was posted before but I'm not checking 1800 pages to find out:



Someone didn't get the memo about chocolate... if I had all that stuff on a 4 hour ride I'd get diabetes.

It's not there any more btw - right now they just have the bidon.
So you would. Very droll.

However you don't seriously imagine that even the most innocent would think they had to pack this lot away in the space of four hours - no of course you don't.

It seems a chance was missed to offer this deal as containing items that would suffice for many four hour rides. Whoever designed the box and promotion was not the brightest spark and this is the daft result.
 
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wrinklyvet said:
vedrafjord said:
Via @DUBCycleWeather, maybe it was posted before but I'm not checking 1800 pages to find out:



Someone didn't get the memo about chocolate... if I had all that stuff on a 4 hour ride I'd get diabetes.

It's not there any more btw - right now they just have the bidon.
So you would. Very droll.

However you don't seriously imagine that even the most innocent would think they had to pack this lot away in the space of four hours - no of course you don't.

It seems a chance was missed to offer this deal as containing items that would suffice for many four hour rides. Whoever designed the box and promotion was not the brightest spark and this is the daft result.
Sky the so called masters of detail exposed as charlatans again. :rolleyes:
 
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wrinklyvet said:
vedrafjord said:
Via @DUBCycleWeather, maybe it was posted before but I'm not checking 1800 pages to find out:



Someone didn't get the memo about chocolate... if I had all that stuff on a 4 hour ride I'd get diabetes.

It's not there any more btw - right now they just have the bidon.
So you would. Very droll.

However you don't seriously imagine that even the most innocent would think they had to pack this lot away in the space of four hours - no of course you don't.

It seems a chance was missed to offer this deal as containing items that would suffice for many four hour rides. Whoever designed the box and promotion was not the brightest spark and this is the daft result.
wonder if its like 'Moser's muesli' :)
 
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wrinklyvet said:
However you don't seriously imagine that even the most innocent would think they had to pack this lot away in the space of four hours - no of course you don't.
On the contrary. Speaking for myself, I most certainly imagine exactly that.

Turn up at any local 5k race, and there's no shortage of people who believe that in order to successfully complete this grueling twenty to thirty-minute ordeal they need to prepare with the proper energy drink, the proper energy gel (with only the proper carbs-to-protein ratio), have on hand one or two mid-race refueling products, only to be followed up immediately after the race with the proper recovery drink.

This, of course, is after all the time, energy and money spent on acquiring the proper running shoes, that were sold to them with the proper fit advice, along with the proper running socks. Of course of all that was preceded by the proper meal the night before, the proper amount of sleep, and the proper breakfast meal. The more diligent and "serious" participants can even be seen off to the side, pre-race, with their proper yoga mats, doing their proper "injury prevention" routine.

To be clear, I'm not being the least bit facetious. These are factual accounts.

Countless local media outlets—newspaper, television, radio—will run stories on, "How to prepare for a 5K" :rolleyes:

All this for a glorified walkathon. You don't think that amongst the masses, plenty of people will see a slickly packaged, all-in-one training-solution-in-a-box, and make a literal interoperation out of what they perceive to be instructions and guidelines for sporting success in terms of product consumption? They will.
And they do.

A four hour ride!?!? :eek:

To many people, that's on par with running a marathon. You better believe they will grasp at every opportunity to survive such an ordeal unscathed, lest they end up in the emergency ward.

If people are as dumb as they are when it comes to running, you can bet that after having spent many more times the amount of money on cycling, they will easily gravitate to such nonsense as suggested by that packaging.
 
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Jacques de Molay said:
wrinklyvet said:
However you don't seriously imagine that even the most innocent would think they had to pack this lot away in the space of four hours - no of course you don't.
On the contrary. Speaking for myself, I most certainly imagine exactly that.

Turn up at any local 5k race, and there's no shortage of people who believe that in order to successfully complete this grueling twenty to thirty-minute ordeal they need to prepare with the proper energy drink, the proper energy gel (with only the proper carbs-to-protein ratio), have on hand one or two mid-race refueling products, only to be followed up immediately after the race with the proper recovery drink.

This, of course, is after all the time, energy and money spent on acquiring the proper running shoes, that were sold to them with the proper fit advice, along with the proper running socks. Of course of all that was preceded by the proper meal the night before, the proper amount of sleep, and the proper breakfast meal. The more diligent and "serious" participants can even be seen off to the side, pre-race, with their proper yoga mats, doing their proper "injury prevention" routine.

To be clear, I'm not being the least bit facetious. These are factual accounts.

Countless local media outlets—newspaper, television, radio—will run stories on, "How to prepare for a 5K" :rolleyes:

All this for a glorified walkathon. You don't think that amongst the masses, plenty of people will see a slickly packaged, all-in-one training-solution-in-a-box, and make a literal interoperation out of what they perceive to be instructions and guidelines for sporting success in terms of product consumption? They will.
And they do.

A four hour ride!?!? :eek:

To many people, that's on par with running a marathon. You better believe they will grasp at every opportunity to survive such an ordeal unscathed, lest they end up in the emergency ward.

If people are as dumb as they are when it comes to running, you can bet that after having spent many more times the amount of money on cycling, they will easily gravitate to such nonsense as suggested by that packaging.
Three bottles of drink made up from the sachets (despite having only one bidon of water to use) plus five gels and two energy bars in one 4-hour ride is surely beyond most people's capacity and I also give them more credit for common sense. Still, if you think that was intended, or that it would be taken that way by anybody, there's no point taking it further, as you seem very sure. I just think it's a marketing opportunity wasted.
 
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wrinklyvet said:
vedrafjord said:
Via @DUBCycleWeather, maybe it was posted before but I'm not checking 1800 pages to find out:



Someone didn't get the memo about chocolate... if I had all that stuff on a 4 hour ride I'd get diabetes.

It's not there any more btw - right now they just have the bidon.
So you would. Very droll.

However you don't seriously imagine that even the most innocent would think they had to pack this lot away in the space of four hours - no of course you don't.

It seems a chance was missed to offer this deal as containing items that would suffice for many four hour rides. Whoever designed the box and promotion was not the brightest spark and this is the daft result.
I'd be struggling to put this much away in a 4 hour road race. I might want more than one bidon though. Just call it a weekend nutrition pack or something.

And yes, I have seen people who would try and tuck this away in 4 hours. Charity rides are full of them :rolleyes:
 
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