Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[TheSpud]

This season is a triumph for British cycling!

 

[Benotti69]

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This season is a triumph for British cycling!

This season is a triumph for British cheating.

 

[DanielSong39]

To be fair, we're talking about pro cycling. Cheating is part of the sport.

 

[Benotti69]

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Others teams will be hoping that Cookson loses the election and that has a knock on effect on Sky's performances

This. It will be the beginning of the end of Sky. Other teams are pretty pissed by their dominance, I reckon...

Since when has what the Pro Teams thought mattered a *** to the UCI ?

Since the UCI is bought by the highest bidder.

 

[TheSpud]

Re: Re:

This season is a triumph for British cycling!

This season is a triumph for British cheating.

Whatever ....

 

[El Pistolero]

Re:

This season is a triumph for British cycling!

I'm glad they suck at Track & Field again though.

 

[The Hegelian]

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Poels was very good but he's done it before Sky. Same with Nieve. It's Moscon I don't buy. And David López was a bit too good today. Froome goes without saying.

And obviously having everybody at their best at the same time is suspicious in itself, even if "their best" is not inherently suspicious on a case by case basis.

Yeah, you can find arguments to defend Poels & Nieve.....but Moscon?? The way he's ridden the whole race has been like a huge neon sign flashing: "We're back to the pro-wrestling era."

 

[Breh]

13th on the Angliru. 5th in Paris-Roubaix.

Only 1guy might have come close and he's called George Hincapie.

I'd rather have USPS and LA bully the TDF than this racist cheater dominate the peloton.

 

[Escarabajo]

UCI should do something about this. They cannot allow the US Postal 2.0.

You just can't allow a team to have 6 riders out 15. It is just stupid and ridiculous. It is not that they buy the best talent. No. Porte was no one before he went to Sky. In fact he was worthless for Contador. Now you have Moscon. WTF. You just cannot allow this guy to outclimb everybody while helping somebody else. UCI, I know Froome is your baby but don't over do it!

 

[DanielSong39]

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UCI should do something about this. They cannot allow the US Postal 2.0.

You just can allow a team to have 6 riders out 15. It is just stupid and ridiculous. It is not that they buy the best talent. No. Porte was no one before he went to Sky. In fact he was worthless for Contador. Now you have Moscon. WTF. You just cannot allow this guy to outclimb everybody while helping somebody else. UCI, I know Froome is your baby but don't over do it!

Maybe Sunweb will be Sky 2.0?

The way they're going, it won't be long before Sky + Sunweb will make up half the guys up the final climb.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

This season is a triumph for British cycling!

This season is a triumph for British cheating.

Whatever ....

You have to admit.....

 

[Robert5091]

http://live.cyclingnews.com/
Live Coverage of Vuelta a Espana - Stage 21

Sky though, have never shown any collective weakness in this race and some of their team even have a Tour de France in their legs. Perhaps their performance has best been personified by Moscon - a rider who made his Grand Tour debut here but found himself with the necessary horsepower to drop Grand Tour contenders, repeatedly. For a rider who came into this race as a Classics man, he has certainly had an astonishing three weeks.

 

[DanielSong39]

I think Sky will have competition soon, though. I'm guessing Sunweb. Clearly Movistar and Astana are using old-school methods which just doesn't cut it in the modern peloton.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

This season is a triumph for British cycling!

This season is a triumph for British cheating.

Whatever ....

True colours there.......

 

[Benotti69]

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UCI should do something about this. They cannot allow the US Postal 2.0.

You just can allow a team to have 6 riders out 15. It is just stupid and ridiculous. It is not that they buy the best talent. No. Porte was no one before he went to Sky. In fact he was worthless for Contador. Now you have Moscon. WTF. You just cannot allow this guy to outclimb everybody while helping somebody else. UCI, I know Froome is your baby but don't over do it!

Sky are in talks with Valentino Rossi for next season's Giro.

 

[rick james]

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UCI should do something about this. They cannot allow the US Postal 2.0.

You just can't allow a team to have 6 riders out 15. It is just stupid and ridiculous. It is not that they buy the best talent. No. Porte was no one before he went to Sky. In fact he was worthless for Contador. Now you have Moscon. WTF. You just cannot allow this guy to outclimb everybody while helping somebody else. UCI, I know Froome is your baby but don't over do it!

Lol

 

[No_Balls]

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At what point is he going to challenge for GT's?

He was 5th in Paris Roubaix this year so it seems like a natural transition to drop top climbers now.

Certainly not outside Team Sky. Fluffy pillows and washing hands doesnt exist outside of Team Sky.

So inside Team Sky he might challenge. No wait Chris Froome is there.

So at some point after having entertained people enough into believing suspensions is good for your GT-aspirations whilst the media are avoiding the elephant in the room he will slip into obscurity and people will forget it ever happened.

 

[Cycle Chic]

I rewatched the Angliru stage re: Poels....its quite noticeable how often Poels keeps checking behind him....he's not checking if Froome is with him as he even does it before he takes that corner and its not to see where Zakarin is. Whys he always looking behind himself ?

Is he checking to see when its safe to turn on the motor ?

 

[deviant]

Re: Sky

Loving the wailing and gnashing of teeth, wonder if there would be this much vitriol if a Spanish, Italian out or French team was winning!?....oh I forgot, that's 'traditional' and it happens with 'panache' apparently so motors in bikes and being doped to the gills is ok on European WT teams...just not Anglo teams.

I'm starting to understand now.

 

[meat puppet]

Re: Sky

Loving the wailing and gnashing of teeth, wonder if there would be this much vitriol if a Spanish, Italian out or French team was winning!?....oh I forgot, that's 'traditional' and it happens with 'panache' apparently so motors in bikes and being doped to the gills is ok on European WT teams...just not Anglo teams.

I'm starting to understand now.

Additionally, there are the idiots like myself who do not care much about nationalities at all but detest dominance as well as unicorn stories in general and would prefer GTs to be races instead of processions.

 

[DanielSong39]

Re: Sky

Loving the wailing and gnashing of teeth, wonder if there would be this much vitriol if a Spanish, Italian out or French team was winning!?....oh I forgot, that's 'traditional' and it happens with 'panache' apparently so motors in bikes and being doped to the gills is ok on European WT teams...just not Anglo teams.

I'm starting to understand now.

It's easy to forget how much vitriol Alberto Contador received not too long ago. Team Astana was the convenient punching bag in between US Postal and Sky.

Sunweb looks like the next team in line.

 

[veganrob]

Re: Sky

Loving the wailing and gnashing of teeth, wonder if there would be this much vitriol if a Spanish, Italian out or French team was winning!?....oh I forgot, that's 'traditional' and it happens with 'panache' apparently so motors in bikes and being doped to the gills is ok on European WT teams...just not Anglo teams.

I'm starting to understand now.

You apparently don't understand a thing

 

[rick james]

Re: Sky

Loving the wailing and gnashing of teeth, wonder if there would be this much vitriol if a Spanish, Italian out or French team was winning!?....oh I forgot, that's 'traditional' and it happens with 'panache' apparently so motors in bikes and being doped to the gills is ok on European WT teams...just not Anglo teams.

I'm starting to understand now.

no you are wrong, doping is allowed you're just not allowed to say you're clean

 

[Baldinger]

Just stumbled across this old piece from BBC. Funny to read.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-18922103

"Bradley Wiggins: 10 reasons for his Tour de France win

[...]

2. Science: Team Sky's sport scientist, Tim Kerrison, spotted that British Tour cyclists were struggling particularly with three challenges - the heat, the altitude and the climbs. So the team trained intensively at altitude, in the heat, and on mountain ascents. A volcano in Tenerife provided all three conditions at once."

Wow. Training in the mountains. Even after five years, the other pro teams have so much to learn.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Sky

Loving the wailing and gnashing of teeth, wonder if there would be this much vitriol if a Spanish, Italian out or French team was winning!?....oh I forgot, that's 'traditional' and it happens with 'panache' apparently so motors in bikes and being doped to the gills is ok on European WT teams...just not Anglo teams.

I'm starting to understand now.

no you are wrong, doping is allowed you're just not allowed to say you're clean

When you check out the rest of the threads in the clinic and see how many riders and teams have threads then this comment will make sense. But to post this is an attempt at obfusction at best......