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Nah, they already knew what was in it ages ago. Wasn't Moore involved and he would have fed Brailsford all the info.
Disappointingly apparently they did not mention, Leinders, JTL, Edmondson, tramadol, etc
But then it was the BBC and we know how they operate. With extreme prejudice.
Robert5091 said:
Nah, they already knew what was in it ages ago. Wasn't Moore involved and he would have fed Brailsford all the info.
Disappointingly apparently they did not mention, Leinders, JTL, Edmondson, tramadol, etc
But then it was the BBC and we know how they operate. With extreme prejudice.
Re: Sky
It was pretty much a re-hash of everything we know to date anyhow.
I find watching and listening to SDB just winds me up now. His management speak just borders on insane now. Its like he is talking about himself and his set up as a 3rd person removed from the situation. Its just nuts and I don't get how he can continue to position himself as so far removed with his credibility and culpability so much in tatters.
It was pretty much a re-hash of everything we know to date anyhow.
I find watching and listening to SDB just winds me up now. His management speak just borders on insane now. Its like he is talking about himself and his set up as a 3rd person removed from the situation. Its just nuts and I don't get how he can continue to position himself as so far removed with his credibility and culpability so much in tatters.
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For an hour long TV programme aimed at Joe Public it did a decent job of getting the big issues out there. Yes plenty of detail and nuance went AWOL but no surprise given the constraints of the format
I watched it with the Mrs who knows nowt about cycling. She said Sutton's denials of using discriminatory language/bullying towards Varnish and para-riders were 100% unconvincing. The Mrs therefore assumed Sutton was also lying about everything...
For an hour long TV programme aimed at Joe Public it did a decent job of getting the big issues out there. Yes plenty of detail and nuance went AWOL but no surprise given the constraints of the format
I watched it with the Mrs who knows nowt about cycling. She said Sutton's denials of using discriminatory language/bullying towards Varnish and para-riders were 100% unconvincing. The Mrs therefore assumed Sutton was also lying about everything...
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Would probably need a 6 hour program to cover all of Sky's suspicious activities.
Benotti69 said:
Would probably need a 6 hour program to cover all of Sky's suspicious activities.
Re: Sky
perhaps cycling could go down the spacey road...airbrush footage of doped winners from race coverage and then enhance first clean finisher to appear to be lifting arms in air as they cross line...mmmmmm need to effect crowds cheering as well for the 60th place finsher.....
full time job at the UCI for a number of people.....
who said technology would cost jobs
perhaps cycling could go down the spacey road...airbrush footage of doped winners from race coverage and then enhance first clean finisher to appear to be lifting arms in air as they cross line...mmmmmm need to effect crowds cheering as well for the 60th place finsher.....
full time job at the UCI for a number of people.....
who said technology would cost jobs
Re: Sky
How about reboots? Reshoot each race with lookalikies, retconning out the dopers? Think of the money to be made...and every few years you'd have to reboot your reboot...gillan1969 said:perhaps cycling could go down the spacey road...airbrush footage of doped winners from race coverage and then enhance first clean finisher to appear to be lifting arms in air as they cross line...mmmmmm need to effect crowds cheering as well for the 60th place finsher.....
full time job at the UCI for a number of people.....
who said technology would cost jobs
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I thought the documentary was good. Clearly they couldn’t use Sutton because he’d been ousted from British Cycling but the parts with Jessica Varnish were good....
Oh wait :lol:
Benotti69 said:
I thought the documentary was good. Clearly they couldn’t use Sutton because he’d been ousted from British Cycling but the parts with Jessica Varnish were good....
Oh wait :lol:
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Re: Sky
Investigations continue.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5101799/Team-Sky-British-Cycling-drug-storm-erupts-again.html
Investigations continue.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5101799/Team-Sky-British-Cycling-drug-storm-erupts-again.html
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This would dissuade a large number of people because the risk/reward calculation has shifted. Race clean and no matter what, you've got a soft landing. Busted once and you can't come back as a DS, coach, or anything else. You'll never touch cycling again. But after your ban, you can go back to school and rebuild your life. This rewards riding clean and removes the worst of the consequences. You might not get rich, but you'll never go broke. On the other hand, if you cheat and win you might be ostracized forever, no second chances.
John Swanson
And then what. The problem is that the whole "thing" that is pro cycling isn't actually burned to the ground. The only way to do that is to reform the system so that the cyclists are protected in a way that the balance is shifted from select dopers gain millions, to grupetto doesn't lose from exposing what's going on. Something along the lines of a guaranteed pension and education fund for everyone. And I mean everyone. Once you serve your ban, you're no longer able to work in the sport at any level, but you have access to your pension and nothing else.70kmph said:
This would dissuade a large number of people because the risk/reward calculation has shifted. Race clean and no matter what, you've got a soft landing. Busted once and you can't come back as a DS, coach, or anything else. You'll never touch cycling again. But after your ban, you can go back to school and rebuild your life. This rewards riding clean and removes the worst of the consequences. You might not get rich, but you'll never go broke. On the other hand, if you cheat and win you might be ostracized forever, no second chances.
John Swanson
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There is a lot of merit to what you propose. As someone that was part of the circus, I always thought one of the biggest misunderstandings of sport from the American perspective was the opportunities provided for many of the participants after failure was naught. We Americans were a bunch of upper middle class to rich kids that had fun giving it a go and when we decided to give it up after a decade of fun and no money, mom and dad paid for us to go back and finish college and get on with our lives. I had teammates that would have done anything to avoid the tire factory.
ScienceIsCool said:
There is a lot of merit to what you propose. As someone that was part of the circus, I always thought one of the biggest misunderstandings of sport from the American perspective was the opportunities provided for many of the participants after failure was naught. We Americans were a bunch of upper middle class to rich kids that had fun giving it a go and when we decided to give it up after a decade of fun and no money, mom and dad paid for us to go back and finish college and get on with our lives. I had teammates that would have done anything to avoid the tire factory.
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Wiggins has put on weight since that picture...
B_Ugli said:Robert5091 said:
Yep - a never ending episode of the following:
Wiggins has put on weight since that picture...
Many cases when you stack them up.
- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson
How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson
How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
It's good to see that BC is having heat placed on them which they've largely escaped so far - No surprise that the supplier of the testesterone is unwilling to speak to UKAD and I doubt this will change - I suspect if anything comes out of this on-going investigation it will be support people sanctioned ( if they can get the evidence ) for trafficking or attempting to traffic a banned substance - Will say to John Swanson that the WADA Code doesn't allow for a sport to ban an athlete from returning to the sport after a doping violation, and even if WADA wanted to pursue this course of action, there are too many legal impediments. Finally I worry about BC cyclists being so vociferous in their criticism of Sutton and BC - After all if testerone and corticosteroids were sent to BC headquarters, they could have been used on the athletes.
No way the testo or prednisolone could have been used on athletes. No way.
It was ordered as just an artefact to be exhibited at The museum of cyclings uncleans past at the BC HQ.
It was ordered as just an artefact to be exhibited at The museum of cyclings uncleans past at the BC HQ.
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