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It's good to see that BC is having heat placed on them which they've largely escaped so far - No surprise that the supplier of the testesterone is unwilling to speak to UKAD and I doubt this will change - I suspect if anything comes out of this on-going investigation it will be support people sanctioned ( if they can get the evidence ) for trafficking or attempting to traffic a banned substance - Will say to John Swanson that the WADA Code doesn't allow for a sport to ban an athlete from returning to the sport after a doping violation, and even if WADA wanted to pursue this course of action, there are too many legal impediments. Finally I worry about BC cyclists being so vociferous in their criticism of Sutton and BC - After all if testerone and corticosteroids were sent to BC headquarters, they could have been used on the athletes.
 
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meat puppet said:
No way the testo or prednisolone could have been used on athletes. No way.

It was ordered as just an artefact to be exhibited at The museum of cyclings uncleans past at the BC HQ.
Except BC cyclist or ex BC cyclists are complaining about the unethical behaviour of Sutton and the like, when they were in the same caravan.
 
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danielovichdk2 said:
Many cases when you stack them up.

- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson

How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
Which case would that be?
A link would help. TIA :razz:
 
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meat puppet said:
No way the testo or prednisolone could have been used on athletes. No way.

It was ordered as just an artefact to be exhibited at The museum of cyclings uncleans past at the BC HQ.

Yes, lol! Just like David Millar only doping three times in his career and leaving the empty syringes on his bookcase as a reminder to not dope again :lol:
 
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silvergrenade said:
danielovichdk2 said:
Many cases when you stack them up.

- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson

How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
Which case would that be?
A link would help. TIA :razz:
you surely remember when our hapless hero was so ill he beat tony martin in a TT.... ;)
 
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gillan1969 said:
silvergrenade said:
danielovichdk2 said:
Many cases when you stack them up.

- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson

How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
Which case would that be?
A link would help. TIA :razz:
you surely remember when our hapless hero was so ill he beat tony martin in a TT.... ;)
like many cyclist have
 
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gillan1969 said:
silvergrenade said:
danielovichdk2 said:
Many cases when you stack them up.

- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson

How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
Which case would that be?
A link would help. TIA :razz:
you surely remember when our hapless hero was so ill he beat tony martin in a TT.... ;)
You consider him hapless. I dont. A hero? Definitely.
I ask for a link to a previous/current investigation by an anti-doping organisation into Christopher Froome because of his TUEs/Peformances. Thanks in advance. :) :razz:
 
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silvergrenade said:
gillan1969 said:
silvergrenade said:
danielovichdk2 said:
Many cases when you stack them up.

- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson

How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
Which case would that be?
A link would help. TIA :razz:
you surely remember when our hapless hero was so ill he beat tony martin in a TT.... ;)
You consider him hapless. I dont. A hero? Definitely.
I ask for a link to a previous/current investigation by an anti-doping organisation into Christopher Froome because of his TUEs/Peformances. Thanks in advance. :) :razz:
12 years ago you were the guy when faced with the 'anonymous' urine samples from the '99 Tour found comfort in the fact Armstrong could not be sanctioned by a NADO....
 
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silvergrenade said:
gillan1969 said:
silvergrenade said:
danielovichdk2 said:
Many cases when you stack them up.

- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson

How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
Which case would that be?
A link would help. TIA :razz:
you surely remember when our hapless hero was so ill he beat tony martin in a TT.... ;)
You consider him hapless. I dont. A hero? Definitely.
I ask for a link to a previous/current investigation by an anti-doping organisation into Christopher Froome because of his TUEs/Peformances. Thanks in advance. :) :razz:
thanks from me too ;)
 
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gillan1969 said:
silvergrenade said:
gillan1969 said:
silvergrenade said:
danielovichdk2 said:
Many cases when you stack them up.

- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson

How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
Which case would that be?
A link would help. TIA :razz:
you surely remember when our hapless hero was so ill he beat tony martin in a TT.... ;)
You consider him hapless. I dont. A hero? Definitely.
I ask for a link to a previous/current investigation by an anti-doping organisation into Christopher Froome because of his TUEs/Peformances. Thanks in advance. :) :razz:
12 years ago you were the guy when faced with the 'anonymous' urine samples from the '99 Tour found comfort in the fact Armstrong could not be sanctioned by a NADO....
Is there a problem? You chose to jump in for no reason.
My ask is simple; I deal in facts.
I ask for a link to a previous/current investigation by an anti-doping organisation into Christopher Froome because of his TUEs/Performances.
 
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gillan1969 said:
silvergrenade said:
gillan1969 said:
silvergrenade said:
danielovichdk2 said:
Many cases when you stack them up.

- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson

How they stay on top of this is a mystery.
Which case would that be?
A link would help. TIA :razz:
you surely remember when our hapless hero was so ill he beat tony martin in a TT.... ;)
You consider him hapless. I dont. A hero? Definitely.
I ask for a link to a previous/current investigation by an anti-doping organisation into Christopher Froome because of his TUEs/Peformances. Thanks in advance. :) :razz:
12 years ago you were the guy when faced with the 'anonymous' urine samples from the '99 Tour found comfort in the fact Armstrong could not be sanctioned by a NADO....
how about dealing with the points that were raised?


Bla bla bla Lance bla bla Froome
 
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rick james said:
danielovichdk2 said:
Many cases when you stack them up.

- Jonathan Tiernan Locke
- Sergio Henao
- Armitstead
- Leinders
- Wiggins
- Freeman
- Froome
- Josh Edmondson

How they stay on top of this is a mystery.

how about dealing with the points that were raised?


Bla bla bla Lance bla bla Froome
yes, the points of many cases of Sky riders, many..........


bla bla bla obfuscate bla bla bla more obfuscation.....
 
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yaco said:
Benotti69 said:
Shane Stokes interviews Matt Lawton about breaking the Jiffeygate story.

Boy Sky sure come across as pathetic with their lies.

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/11/story-behind-story-journalist-exposed-team-sky/

Imagine if a decent journalist had got hold of this story. I think Sky would be no more by now and Wiggins stripped of his TdF.
What makes you say Matt Lawton is not a decent journalist.
Wiggins took Kenacort without a TUE on the bus. That is doping. Lawton knows yet in that interview he refuses to call Wiggins a doper. Yet as a sports journalist he should have decent idea of pro cycling's history. A bit of a quick research would lead anyone with half a brain to see that the culture to dope did not change, not after the reasoned decision, which was in June of 2012 when Wiggins won his TdF, so how did Wiggins and Sky beat the dopers. Why did he tink in Rio Wiggins was this clean athlete? Lawton is either not to bright or liks to run with hare and hunt with hounds aas suits his purposes, just like Walsh.

Also, he caught the team lying. Their is only 1 reason to lie, doping. Lawton still not called teamSky cheats.
 
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Benotti69 said:
yaco said:
Benotti69 said:
Shane Stokes interviews Matt Lawton about breaking the Jiffeygate story.

Boy Sky sure come across as pathetic with their lies.

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/11/story-behind-story-journalist-exposed-team-sky/

Imagine if a decent journalist had got hold of this story. I think Sky would be no more by now and Wiggins stripped of his TdF.
What makes you say Matt Lawton is not a decent journalist.
Wiggins took Kenacort without a TUE on the bus. That is doping. Lawton knows yet in that interview he refuses to call Wiggins a doper. Yet as a sports journalist he should have decent idea of pro cycling's history. A bit of a quick research would lead anyone with half a brain to see that the culture to dope did not change, not after the reasoned decision, which was in June of 2012 when Wiggins won his TdF, so how did Wiggins and Sky beat the dopers. Why did he tink in Rio Wiggins was this clean athlete? Lawton is either not to bright or liks to run with hare and hunt with hounds aas suits his purposes, just like Walsh.

Also, he caught the team lying. Their is only 1 reason to lie, doping. Lawton still not called teamSky cheats.
He has to have indisputable evidence of that or he will lose his job because any decent libel attorney would rip him and The Mail to pieces.
 
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MatParker117 said:
Benotti69 said:
yaco said:
Benotti69 said:
Shane Stokes interviews Matt Lawton about breaking the Jiffeygate story.

Boy Sky sure come across as pathetic with their lies.

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/11/story-behind-story-journalist-exposed-team-sky/

Imagine if a decent journalist had got hold of this story. I think Sky would be no more by now and Wiggins stripped of his TdF.
What makes you say Matt Lawton is not a decent journalist.
Wiggins took Kenacort without a TUE on the bus. That is doping. Lawton knows yet in that interview he refuses to call Wiggins a doper. Yet as a sports journalist he should have decent idea of pro cycling's history. A bit of a quick research would lead anyone with half a brain to see that the culture to dope did not change, not after the reasoned decision, which was in June of 2012 when Wiggins won his TdF, so how did Wiggins and Sky beat the dopers. Why did he tink in Rio Wiggins was this clean athlete? Lawton is either not to bright or liks to run with hare and hunt with hounds aas suits his purposes, just like Walsh.

Also, he caught the team lying. Their is only 1 reason to lie, doping. Lawton still not called teamSky cheats.
He has to have indisputable evidence of that or he will lose his job because any decent libel attorney would rip him and The Mail to pieces.
There is no such thing as an “attorney” in the UK, nor one for libel. It comes under the law of defamation and there also is no such concept in law as “ripping to pieces”. It’s simply dealt with outside of the courts.

Besides, Sky, Wiggins, Freeman or anyone have yet to lodge any form of legal disagreement.
 
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