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Carmichael wasn't a smokescreen. Good ol' Chris was doping Armstrong as a teenager! Carmichael's program was very low tech and pre-EPO, making some riders sick. No way it could compete with Conconi/Ferarri/Fuentes.

Carmichael was smart to ride the wave of doping and corruption at both USA Cycling, then the UCI.
He was doping many young riders and a smokescreen. Both things are true.
 
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Ex-DS puts Ineos's slip in form down to tactics and training:
“It’s a strange strategy,” L’Equipe reports Yates as saying. “I think they’re so used to imposing their way of racing on others that they struggle to do anything different. When you’ve won so much, it’s hard to adapt. If your team has three leaders, as should have been the case last year, for example, making the race hard to weaken your rivals is a logical tactic. But Ineos came to this Tour with one sole leader, who clearly isn’t at the level. They’d be better off staying in the wheels rather than uselessly expending their energy."
“Ineos came to the Tour thinking Bernal was the best rider in the peloton. Setting the tempo is useful when you have the best rider – the higher the pace you set, the bigger the gaps he can create in the finale. But that the moment, the best rider is Primoz Roglic. He’s flying. The general level has increased. With each stage, climbing records are beaten, but it’s clear Bernal hasn’t followed that trend. I ask myself about the impact that the lockdown in Colombia has had on him, and on the quality of his training. I know he did several rides close to 300km, without a solid base. Was that well-calculated? I think all that wasn’t beneficial to him. Questions have to be asked of his preparation.”
“I don’t know if it’s enough to explain their current tactical problems but Nico embodied the success of Ineos, and with success comes confidence. His death was a shock for the riders – it affected them profoundly. He was pulling the strings for years. Now, there are four directors and we don’t really know who calls the shots. It’s quite a fluid situation. In the race, everything must be handled in an automatic way. Once a stage is underway, you don’t have time to hold a videoconference to decide on tactics. Before, when the boat had a hole in it Nico was there to repair it. But in cycling, as in life, nothing lasts forever.”
 
This past week should have hopefully dispensed with any lingering doubters that Porte is capable of being one of the very best TdF riders regardless of whether he is riding for Sky, BMC or Trek. His excellent form in the Sky train becomes less suspicious with each turn of the pedal.
 
"I would never judge myself by someone else’s narrative"
SDB September 2020
Translated out of spin-speak
"I don't listen to / value the criticism of anyone."

Why would you work for him if it wasn't for the money?
All those who go to sky/IGN are Sir Devil's fodder.
 
"I would never judge myself by someone else’s narrative"
SDB September 2020
Translated out of spin-speak
"I don't listen to / value the criticism of anyone."
One hates to have to leap to the defence of Brailsford, but he did not say he doesn't listen to or value criticism. The key part you're overlooking is 'someone else's narrative', or self-serving criticism. I'm sure those who fully value informed criticism themselves can see the importance of this qualifier and how its presence means the statement doesn't mean what you're saying it means.
 
"I would never judge myself by someone else’s narrative"
SDB September 2020
Translated out of spin-speak
"I don't listen to / value the criticism of anyone."

Why would you work for him if it wasn't for the money?
All those who go to sky/IGN are Sir Devil's fodder.
because, grazie a dio, they are pro riders and not fans arguing on a forum with their biased view.
ps. today was beautiful
 
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Geraint Thomas hits Giro d'Italia with newfound form and motivation

This should be entertaining. Just more motivated, eating better, and doing some rides to lose a kilo or two.

Hoping the Giro is not too ridiculous.
It seems that the Fickle Finger of Fate (a random bouncing bidon) intervened on the Giro's behalf at the start of stage 3, unfortunately for G. In other news, it looks like Dr. Freeman's missing laptop's replacement was disassembled with a screwdriver (contents unrecoverable), according to Freeman's most recent testimony: Link
 
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I think there were two laptops weren't there? The one 'stolen' in Greece, and the one he screwdrivered

But he has nothing to hide...

I actually feel sorry for the guy. I dont think he is the baddie here.
 
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Totally ridiculous. How anyone can listen to this without laughing out loud right there is beyond me. It's like in a bad movie, when the gangster boss tells the most stupid lies and you know it's bull**, but the good ones still have to find that absolute waterproof evidence, otherwise he will be released.

The other ridiculous thing is that testosterone cannot be more than a small part of an endurance athlete's doping. They got caught in a minor detail. Staying with movies and stories, this reminds of Al Capone.

I guess they are all just shifting and diffusing the blame so that in the end it's clear as * they doped, but who was exactly responsible for what will remain unclear, and therefor they will go free.

I pity the ones who have to deal with this on a professional level, although they are getting paid.
 
Totally ridiculous. How anyone can listen to this without laughing out loud right there is beyond me. It's like in a bad movie, when the gangster boss tells the most stupid lies and you know it's bull**, but the good ones still have to find that absolute waterproof evidence, otherwise he will be released.
Been laughing out loud WRT Sky since 2011, despite optimism in 2010. This is a nice wrap up. It's just fodder for those who need to believe, they need something to hang on to.
 
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