Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[yaco]

This was always a likely outcome - Anti-Doping authorities can be strict on support staff having banned substances at their work place.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Rasch on Froome and Thomas:

Chris Froome and Geraint Thomas haven’t been good enough at the Dauphiné, says Rasch

Ineos: Bernal could have raced but back injury needs treatment

www.cyclingnews.com

a) says Froome and G have done all they could have. That they "have prepared well."

b) says that Froome and G haven't been close to being good enough, with the Tour in mind. They need to "step it up". (Start wanting it more?)


INEOS are hoping that the racing at the Dauphine will get them there. Obviously it won't. Curious timing to go public with this, also, especially when considering the fact that he's basically saying that they've done everything right up until this point.

 

[kingjr]

I don't see Froome at the Tour right now. Don't see what he could contribute, really.

 

[Puckfiend]

Time to thaw some "marginal gains" out of the freezer!

 

[42x16ss]

Time to thaw some "marginal gains" out of the freezer!

Starting to suspect a bunch of it was recently put in the freezer.

 

[DirtyWorks]

In Yorkshire the Ineos chief Radcliffe threatened the team would be disbanded, you never saw the Murdocks saying anything remotely like that, it was a full on arms race

Literally everyone got something by letting sky dope.
UCI got a huuuuge Olympics payout.
ASO got a nice audience boost.
BC looked like geniuses to the point of voting members let them run the uci.

Ineos clearly did not have any idea how corrupt the sport actually is and thought they were getting a TdF squad. They can't even make it to the finish in the lead group.

Once again, the sport doing everything in its power to chase away legitimate sponsors

 

[DirtyWorks]

I don't see Froome at the Tour right now. Don't see what he could contribute, really.

He Needs another disease excuse and a federation that allows him to dope.

 

[Ted Striker]

Literally everyone got something by letting sky dope.
UCI got a huuuuge Olympics payout.
ASO got a nice audience boost.
BC looked like geniuses to the point of voting members let them run the uci.

Ineos clearly did not have any idea how corrupt the sport actually is and thought they were getting a TdF squad. They can't even make it to the finish in the lead group.

Once again, the sport doing everything in its power to chase away legitimate sponsors

can you back that claim up please

 

[red_flanders]

can you back that claim up please

Good one! I LOL'd.

 

[Lequack]

So I wasn't expecting that. No Geraint and no Froome in the Tour squad. The Movistar patended "the three amigos" strategy is no more.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Conspiracy Theories:

• The usual super-controlled micro-dosing for G & Dawg has been inoperative during Covid ...
• The short space between recent races has meant contant in competition controls - not allowing time for OCC tricks to kick in.

 

[proffate]

Conspiracy Theories:

• The usual super-controlled micro-dosing for G & Dawg has been inoperative during Covid ...
• The short space between recent races has meant contant in competition controls - not allowing time for OCC tricks to kick in.

Or, G is a lazy bones and Froome's not over his injury.

 

[JosephK]

Conspiracy Theories:

• The usual super-controlled micro-dosing for G & Dawg has been inoperative during Covid ...
• The short space between recent races has meant contant in competition controls - not allowing time for OCC tricks to kick in.

Yes, and I was wondering whether Covid might have disrupted certain supply chains for special prep. Not sure how any of that would work, or not work. Pure imagineering, here.

 

[samhocking]

Yes, and I was wondering whether Covid might have disrupted certain supply chains for special prep. Not sure how any of that would work, or not work. Pure imagineering, here.

Supply chains disrupted to Nice & Cardiff only? Seems unlikely!

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Supply chains disrupted to Nice & Cardiff only? Seems unlikely!

countrylines

 

[samhocking]

Sure, and the UPS man got lost ; )

 

[70kmph]

Seems like F & G were taken off the juice then demoted from the Tour squad for riding in the autobus

 

[gillan1969]

froome only needed to appear like a tour winner to get a contract...which he has done...3 years I think...good work if you can get it....

 

[samhocking]

Froome's contract is understood to be 5 years. That will take him to 40 and when he is thinking of retiring he said iirc.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Fleshing out the Conspiracy:

Dr. Bermon was on lock down as well as his clinic. He couldn’t order drugs in as you weren’t allowed to practice medicine at this time except under emergency. I sense the Froome and Sky had no “legitimate” way to order drugs without tripping the tripwire.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1299668054792695808

View: https://twitter.com/maximus_hoggus/status/1299668054792695808

 

[TheSpud]

I see The Hog never changes

 

[markene2]

I still cant understand that you guys keep going with the Dr Bermon meme, he is a smokescreen, Kashechkin was total ASS after he started working with him.

No way he is Froomes suplier, or anything other then a smokescreen, just like Carmichael was for Lance

 

[DirtyWorks]

Or, G is a lazy bones and Froome's not over his injury.

Please, don't use the "Trains harder" excuse. I fully realize it works everywhere, but it's one of the older doping excuses. You should look up Chris Horner. His transformation to Vuelta champion late in his career was, "eating fewer cheeseburgers." The other guys just didn't train as hard as good ole' Chris.

Froome at Dauphine was a joke. A supposed clean multi grand tour winner can't string 5 days of racing together? Seems legit.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I still cant understand that you guys keep going with the Dr Bermon meme, he is a smokescreen, Kashechkin was total ASS after he started working with him.

No way he is Froomes suplier, or anything other then a smokescreen, just like Carmichael was for Lance

Carmichael wasn't a smokescreen. Good ol' Chris was doping Armstrong as a teenager! Carmichael's program was very low tech and pre-EPO, making some riders sick. No way it could compete with Conconi/Ferarri/Fuentes.

Carmichael was smart to ride the wave of doping and corruption at both USA Cycling, then the UCI.

 

[DirtyWorks]

can you back that claim up please

Start here: https://playthegame.org/news/news-articles/2020/0644_how-federations-share-the-revenues-from-the-olympic-games/

What if it was a UCI project to make cycling so popular for the British games that it became a "Group A" sport?