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Yes, Dennis getting dropped in the breakaway makes his performance today look really random.
Otherwise a one off monster climbing performance from him in a gt wouldn't really surprise me. That said, IMO he's too much of a hothead and wouldn't be able to cope with the stress of being a gc leader.
 
I'm struggling to decide which out of Dennis and Hart is more ludicrous.

I think Dennis. When he wins the Tour de France next year, it's going to be a bitter pill to swallow for sure.
It's Dennis for sure. I'm just waiting for the release of same watts as the 20th guy who crossed Stelvio...
 
The last time Dennis did the Giro he was 7th on GC after stage 18.
And lost more than 14 minutes on the next stage, to Jafferau.
Actually the Jafferau stage was very hard, similar to today. That day he was dropped at the bottom of Finestre. Today he was flying up the Stelvio. Not that I'm complaining btw, as he helped Tao massively, but let's not act like this is a normal performance, especially if this is true:

Thats like 1600 VAM for 70 min ending at 2760m.

Basically Bernal Iseran except literally twice as long in a waayyy harder stage.
 
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And lost more than 14 minutes on the next stage, to Jafferau.
Actually the Jafferau stage was very hard, similar to today. That day he was dropped at the bottom of Finestre. Today he was flying up the Stelvio. Not that I'm complaining btw, as he helped Tao massively, but let's not act like this is a normal performance, especially if this is true:

Yes, but he was up there. And he was still 18th that day. The idea that a double World TT champion with proven climbing ability can do a one-off performance like that isn't really that surprising.
 
Yes, but he was up there. The idea that a double World TT champion with proven climbing ability can do a one-off performance like that isn't really that surprising.
He was 7th because the field wasn't that deep, there had been 2 ITTs, etc.

He didn't get top 15 in a single significant mountain stage in the Giro.

Now he murders everyone on the biggest climb of the lot after being in a breakaway yesterday, where by the way, he got dropped like a stone.

If that's not surprising to you, then the word surprise has lost any meaning.
 
Yeah, being 18th is massively different than dropping every GC contender bar 2 on the hardest climb of the race.

There's also a massive between those GC contenders who care about when finish and DEnnis who doesn't. If you think it is baffling that a double World TT champion who has come second in the Tour of Switzerland can do a big mid-stage climbing performance for an hour then you're probably baffled by the entire sport.
 
There's also a massive between those GC contenders who care about when finish and DEnnis who doesn't. If you think it is baffling that a double World TT champion who has come second in the Tour of Switzerland can do a big mid-stage climbing performance for an hour then you're probably baffled by the entire sport.
On one hand there is big.

One the other hand there is "historical"

It's like Usain Bolt competing with the best on the 800-1500m
 
While his performance at last years Tour de Suisse was good, the field was weak apart from Bernal. And it was a 9-day race, not near the end of a 3-week GT. And this years Giro does not have a weak field, the climbing times are very fast.
EDIT: Red Rick explained it better.
 
On one hand there is big.

One the other hand there is "historical"

It's like Usain Bolt competing with the best on the 800-1500m

No it isn't. Dennis rides stages like this all the time. It's more like an 800m champion pacemaking at world record pace for 1000m in a 1500m

It appears to me that most of your suspicions, which seem to arise on a daily basis, are mostly based in a very limited and one dimensional understanding of the sport.
 
He was leading Hart and Hindley up the Stelvio - not Carapaz, not Bernal, not Thomas. Not Yates (or Roglic). And he did not have to do the final climb on the front.
I don't know the pure numbers, but maybe this year is just a very weak field (after the dropouts). It sure looks like one to me.
Whatever went wrong with Nibali he is the only really big name left behind.
 
He was leading Hart and Hindley up the Stelvio - not Carapaz, not Bernal, not Thomas. Not Yates (or Roglic). And he did not have to do the final climb on the front.
I don't know the pure numbers, but maybe this year is just a very weak field (after the dropouts). It sure looks like one to me.
Whatever went wrong with Nibali he is the only really big name left behind.
1600 VAM for 69 minutes at super high altitude.

It's like Bernal at the Iseran for twice as long. And Bernal was a minute faster than everyone else.
 
While his performance at last years Tour de Suisse was good, the field was weak apart from Bernal. And it was a 9-day race, not near the end of a 3-week GT. And this years Giro does not have a weak field, the climbing times are very fast.
EDIT: Red Rick explained it better.
Apart from Nibali, none of the top ten today have been on the podium of a GT and they have one stage win between them prior to this race.
 
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While his performance at last years Tour de Suisse was good, the field was weak apart from Bernal. And it was a 9-day race, not near the end of a 3-week GT. And this years Giro does not have a weak field, the climbing times are very fast.
EDIT: Red Rick explained it better.
Also: Bernal was leading the TDS and just had to mark Dennis.
 

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