Libertine Seguros said:
Good analysis. Possibilities:
1. Wiggins got dirtier
2. Peloton got cleaner
3. Reasonable progression after being focused on the road since post summer 2008
4. Unreasonable progression due to age (28-32 for the 4 sole road years)
So far, I'm prepared to believe a combination of 2 & 4, but I'm actuely aware of 1 & 3 and of course cannot rule them out
Catwhoorg said:
Break what?
No one will report anything until there is a positive test, and if there was one, I guarentee the Times would cover it.
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hrotha said:
You dont even have to look closely or know much about TT to see he has changed position a great deal in the last 2 years.
As he has lost weight, so he has had to become more efficient. It is a plausible alternative to Clinic theories.
And before his body was optimised for 4k, acceleration from a standing start and in team pursuit a series of short sprints every time its your turn - all of which need more upperbody strength and because the track is perfectly flat a bit more muscle can work to your advantage.
I know it's boring compared to being jacked up on AICAR and horse wonderdrugs but it could be possible...
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Dollars, Pounds, Euros
Nothing new here boys. Just follow the money. Whose got it and who spends it? I'd guess the Murdock team wins both categories. Being partial to conspiracy theories myself I find it interesting that the dream team backed by Murdock billions finds itself with a VERY Wiggo friendly race course for the Tour... AND in the same the same year that the Olympics are on home turf..
Follow the Money.
Nothing new here boys. Just follow the money. Whose got it and who spends it? I'd guess the Murdock team wins both categories. Being partial to conspiracy theories myself I find it interesting that the dream team backed by Murdock billions finds itself with a VERY Wiggo friendly race course for the Tour... AND in the same the same year that the Olympics are on home turf..
Follow the Money.
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Team Sky’s Sean Yates believes that Bradley Wiggins has yet to hit top form, with plans for the Criterium du Dauphine leader to reach optimal condition at the Tour de France this year.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/yates-wiggins-hasnt-peaked-yet
I guess Sky hasn't peaked either.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/yates-wiggins-hasnt-peaked-yet
I guess Sky hasn't peaked either.
thehog said:
Doesn't fawn? One name, Harry Redknapp. You know the brain dead illiterate fraudster who the English press climb over each other to fawn over.
Also as the English press, as we all know, is the absolute height of integrity you're completely right that they'll flick the switch if they smell a rat.
Jesus.
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cineteq said:
Grab the popcorn then - this one could be even funnier than the Bison & Bilharzia show last September.
not relevant to the discussion per sé, but i dont recall seeing a greater dork on bike with a jella jersey than our friend wiggo.
little comparison with lance in terms of charisma / style.
other point: wiggo has the indurain/riis body: far from being a natural climber, but the type of body that reacts particularly well to blood doping.
anyhow, Cadel looks quite fresh up there and is still the favorite for the tour, imo.
little comparison with lance in terms of charisma / style.
other point: wiggo has the indurain/riis body: far from being a natural climber, but the type of body that reacts particularly well to blood doping.
anyhow, Cadel looks quite fresh up there and is still the favorite for the tour, imo.
taiwan said:
Weening was signed as their #1 in a GT. At Rabo he was just an afterthought. Of course that doesn't make him a top cyclist, but a top20 in the Tour isn't unreasonable. Plus GEC are hardly going to be a benchmark "clean team".
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Winterfold said:
Funny, those are the same theories about Armstrong: improved position, higher cadence, lost weight but kept the power, etc., etc.
All of which we know is nonsense.
Ferminal said:
Shouldn't that speak against him? Because those clean teams are winning left and right, while those dirty teams are left in the dust
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Libertine Seguros said:
This is just what i was thinking yesterday. Not to the same depth
but yeah that we are ignoring his tts. That the mountain training theory does not cover the improvement in tts. I mean to beat T mart by 30 seconds like that was ultra impressive.
UlleGigo said:Doesn't fawn? One name, Harry Redknapp. You know the brain dead illiterate fraudster who the English press climb over each other to fawn over.
Also as the English press, as we all know, is the absolute height of integrity you're completely right that they'll flick the switch if they smell a rat.
The press fawns horribly over him, but that's because people like him and so they can sell more papers by doing it. If they smelt a rat, they would publish it, to sell more papers.
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oldcrank said:
So true! Anybody who dares question an Australian or British rider is clearly merely a hater of excellence and a lover of cancer bilharzia!
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To be fair, Lance also had tubular tires that were aged in a cellar like a good wine. Marginal gains.Moose McKnuckles said:
Libertine's analysis was good, and I liked the analogy to Kaisa too, though UKpostal looks more fishy in the end. But yeah, guess it's best to grab the popcorn, bend over and think of England.
Add in Andy's superform, which he will probably hit, and it'll be hilarious.
Cadel and Gesink as the hopes of the quasi-pseudo-civilized world? God help us all.
Next question is : where will Wiggins and the Sky-is-the-limit spend the next 3 weeks ? In the Alps ? Or more probably in Teneriffe ?
I think you should have called the thread Wiggins and Sky or in keeping with the trend on the clinic Wiggins is long overdue a thread here for his results this year. When any non British rider is successful this year, they have immediately been accussed of doping in this forum i.e. De Gendt, Sagan, etc.Gregga said:
The dominance on both Sky and the British Cycling team in general brings more doubts to my mind than any other team or individual, particularly as the same person is in charge of both.
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In the history of EPO thread there was this idea that in the 1990s GC riders were generally bigger than now. If I remember correctly, the reasoning went like this: Since the oxygen supply was less a limit than it perhaps is now, the riders could carry a little more muscle mass as well. Hence they were generally more rouleur like, better in TT and so on, than the current mountain goats that limit their losses in TTs.2008885 said:
Edit: Case in point - the relentless attacking on the flat roads to Pamplona 1996 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx9O4tptTu8
Thing is, Twiggo and the Schlecks too are skeletons when compared to Riis/Indurain, but there seems to be some merit to that kinda reasoning nonetheless.
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