Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[zalacain]

 

[zalacain]

 

[BroDeal]

 

[heart_attack_man]

 

[dirkvijf]

How to lose al your credibility as a sponsor that does not want to be associated with dopers?

Simple, just start sponsoring Vitor Belfort

 

[taiwan]

 

[Ferminal]

How to lose al your credibility as a sponsor that does not want to be associated with dopers?

Simple, just start sponsoring Vitor Belfort

Vitor must be clean then, Rupert would never risk it.

 

[gooner]

I heard Vitor flipped the lid in his press conference when he got asked about his TRT usage after his win last weekend.

Something in common with Brad.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Finally. No point in the others showing up now.

 

[zalacain]

Won't there be a lot of drag from those stabilisers?

 

[UlleGigo]

I heard there's two bikes in Wiggo's wind tunnel. One to ride and one to throw when he finished riding.

Marginal gains and all that.

 

[ebandit]

se it and ...........believe

Won't there be a lot of drag from those stabilisers?

have you not seen the latest aero carbon offerings specially made by pinarello

for brad?

Mark L

 

[Retro Trev]

Dont know the origins of this but picked it up on Cycling Weekly forum. Think it may amuse a few here. I especialy like the suggestion other teams may be blocking Brads power meter data!..PMSL

"Sources close to Sky training staff have confirmed that Wiggin's power meter analysis before the race showed his FTP (functional threshold power) and power to weight ratio were better than ever. One coach told our source, "We are not sure yet if there is a problem with the power meter data analysis software which should estimate FTP to + / - 0.5% or if it is a power meter calibration problem. Brad is adamant that the power meters he is using in the Giro this year are giving him lower numbers for a perceived effort than he was getting all year in training. In fact we know his heart rate is higher at certain wattages in the race than it was in training but we know heart rate is irrelevant so we are not worried about this. We noticed that when the climbs get steep his cadence is lower than in training, but we know cadence is a red herring and we just look at the power numbers. We talked to Brad about his calibration methods and he has assured us he has been doing things by the book, but then he also said he left it to Steven de Jongh, Bobby Julich or Sean Yates to sort out his power meters until this year and when we asked him which book he was using he said he was using the same book as a weight as last year. We have tried putting the data through some new software and comparing that to the old software and we have found that the new software is a bit different to the old but only by a few watts. We have sent a whole load of data off to Dr Andrew Coggan, the leading expert in this field, and are hopeful he will be able to explain what has been going on. We told him about Brad's higher heart rate at over 400 watts in the race than he was getting in training but Coggan told us heart rate was of no use if you are training with power. We also think some of the other teams might be using some sort of device which throws the SRM data off. Brad says his power meter numbers get stuck whenever Nibali attacks. In fact Brad was looking at his power numbers which were a bit weird when he crashed the other day."

Kerrison says he believes Sky are the only professional team that offers dedicated one-to-one coaching to all its riders &**8211; they have four full-time coaches at present &**8211; and notes that other teams are looking to the British squad, whether it be warming down after stages, or sending whole detachments to train at altitude in Tenerife. "Everyone is now following our lead in things like warm-downs; more and more teams have coaching staff. I genuinely hope it's the start of a new era in cycling."

Darryl,

Thanks for posting this, I originally posted it on timetrialling forum, but they have banned me again.

It was nice to see there are a few people on here who found it entertaining.

Trev.

 

[thehog]

Finally. No point in the others showing up now.

I can see the wind tunnel scientists explaining to the Dawg about drag, wind velocity etc. The Dawg will look back and say "why"? You can just drop one of these and you got 50w no matter what your position.

 

[MaxVO2]

Great topic, but 2017 pages??? I can't read it all, so what's the executive summary? Thanks.

 

[ebandit]

just sayin'

Great topic, but 2017 pages??? I can't read it all, so what's the executive summary? Thanks.

he said...............she said............no-one knows

Mark L

 

[argyllflyer]

he said...............she said............no-one knows

Mark L

You forgot "I think therefore I know."

 

[ebandit]

think

You forgot "I think therefore I know."

so you think you know?.................i do not

Mark L

 

[argyllflyer]

so you think you know?.................i do not

Mark L

Uh... I wasn't actually speaking for myself. I feel it does however sum up most of the Clinic crackpots.

 

[Alpechraxler]

I can see the wind tunnel scientists explaining to the Dawg about drag, wind velocity etc. The Dawg will look back and say "why"? You can just drop one of these and you got 50w no matter what your position.

And add some of this before the tour:

 

[IndianCyclist]

he said...............she said............no-one knows

Mark L

Summary- Title - Sky & Doping
Who is it about? - Froome, Wiggins, Sky train
What happened? - Sudden transformation from near gruppetto to No 1/2/3 & Sky train dominance in stage races
Where did it take place? At major stage races
how did it happen? "Marginal Gains"

and lots of other stuff

 

[BroDeal]

Great topic, but 2017 pages??? I can't read it all, so what's the executive summary? Thanks.

It is basically like this. Everyone with more than two brain cells can see the blatant Stephen Schumacher-like doping except for the Brits who refuse to believe the obvious, so the thread is one long exercise in fanboys trying to convince people black is white, truth is lie, and war is peace. The truly sad cases have convinced themselves that everyone else is crazy.

 

[OnTheDrops]

Great topic, but 2017 pages??? I can't read it all, so what's the executive summary? Thanks.

You know how some people get so nostalgic for the 1960s civil rights struggle they try to recreate the same dynamics for issues like gay marriage?

 

[Darryl Webster]

Darryl,

Thanks for posting this, I originally posted it on timetrialling forum, but they have banned me again.

It was nice to see there are a few people on here who found it entertaining.

Trev.

Ah, your the guilty party!..nice one Trev..genious to add that last bit which was genuine from an interview.

 

[peloton]

It is basically like this. Everyone with more than two brain cells can see the blatant Stephen Schumacher-like doping except for the Brits who refuse to believe the obvious, so the thread is one long exercise in fanboys trying to convince people black is white, truth is lie, and war is peace. The truly sad cases have convinced themselves that everyone else is crazy.

Pretty much this.
Sky dominating races like no team has ever done before in the last decade, not even USP got a 1-2 at the Tour....