Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

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Parker said:
So they had lots of good riders..

Wait, good? Froome/Porte/Wiggo (for a bit)/A couple of Colombians show up and destroy fields is not good. That's hasn't been done since Merckx legendary. And legendary for the second year in a row. And legendary where there is scant evidence anyone BUT the Colombians actually had this talent to begin with. And at least 4 legendary riders appearing all at once at Sky?

Not good. Not even close. Beyond legendary is impossible. Impossible without PED's and the UCI assisting. Again.

Now, if it were actually some legitimate training regimen Team GB worked up, it will be leaked by 2014. It's not though. Because the one-day squad just can't seem to destroy fields like the grand tour riders. Mysterious!
 
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DirtyWorks said:
Wait, good? Froome/Porte/Wiggo (for a bit)/A couple of Colombians show up and destroy fields is not good. That's hasn't been done since Merckx legendary. And legendary for the second year in a row. And legendary where there is scant evidence anyone BUT the Colombians actually had this talent to begin with. And at least 4 legendary riders appearing all at once at Sky?
Who are these four legendary riders? Froome - maybe. At any time there is someone who wins. Wiggins - again maybe. But no more legendary than Evans for example. The rest? Porte? Well he's won Paris-Nice. So have LL Sanchez, Dario Frigo and Jorg Jaksche (they may be doped but they aren't legendary). Uran? He's has never destroyed anyone (neither has Henao). Podium at the Giro. Are De Gendt, Gadret and Arroyo legends too?

Stop over-exaggerating. It's not exactly Hinault, LeMond and Fignon at Renault.
 

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Parker said:
It's a story about Jon Tiernan-Locke being asked to explain some suspect blood values from the back end of last season while at Endura

Sounds suspiciously like some suspected all year - he's juiced at Endura to get the Pro contract, because there's no blood passport. Gets the Sky contract, has to come off the juice, is crap all year, and now his off juice numbers look nothing like his 'Endura' numbers...unless I'm missing something obvious...
 
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martinvickers said:
Sounds suspiciously like some suspected all year - he's juiced at Endura to get the Pro contract, because there's no blood passport. Gets the Sky contract, has to come off the juice, is crap all year, and now his off juice numbers look nothing like his 'Endura' numbers...unless I'm missing something obvious...

Why dont you apply this same logic to your heroes dawg and Wiggins?
 
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the sceptic said:
Why dont you apply this same logic to your heroes dawg and Wiggins?

Entirely different.

Froome and Wiggins were in the passport even before they hit the big time.
 

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JTl story is another proof Sky is the cleanest team.

I expect them to fire JTL, he was a waste of money and squad place.
 

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martinvickers said:
Sounds suspiciously like some suspected all year - he's juiced at Endura to get the Pro contract, because there's no blood passport. Gets the Sky contract, has to come off the juice, is crap all year, and now his off juice numbers look nothing like his 'Endura' numbers...unless I'm missing something obvious...

yes, you don't understand how this things work. now his numbers are nowhere near Endura numbers, it's one of the reason was benched all season. Don't make stupid conclusions when you have no clue.

Because Endura competed at the lower Continental level, theirs riders were not part of the biological passport data system. Only when Tiernan-Locke had his greatest victory, in last season’s Tour of Britain, did he start having regular blood tests. Values recorded in the four months before the end of 2012 were not deemed sufficiently suspicious to trigger an investigation but since joining Team Sky in January, Tiernan-Locke has been routinely blood-tested.
This year’s tests gave the authorities the information to establish what they believe to be the rider’s normal values and they are now asking him to explain the higher-than-normal values from his pre-Sky days.'
 
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To recap

- Does nothing for years
- August 2011 suddenly gains superpowers
- Explains it away with an illness

I've just described two different Sky cyclists. One has just been busted. So, when is Froome going to get popped?
 

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GuyIncognito said:
To recap

- Does nothing for years
- August 2011 suddenly gains superpowers
- Explains it away with an illness

I've just described two different Sky cyclists. One has just been busted. So, when is Froome going to get popped?

you see, dopeborgs are bad at spotting differences cause their vision is blurred by hate

JTL was caught in months

Froome will never be caught because you have nothing to catch him with.
 

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JTL story was leaked by Pat

This all that Pat has on Sky so i feel sorry for Sky haters, your dreams will never become true. There is nothing else "covered" by corrupt UCI leadership.
 
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EnacheV said:
JTL story was leaked by Pat

This all that Pat has on Sky so i feel sorry for Sky haters, your dreams will never become true. There is nothing else "covered" by corrupt UCI leadership.

Sky have been on the front of the race for over 20 minutes in a row.
Your keyboard must be white and crusty by now
 

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GuyIncognito said:
Sky have been on the front of the race for over 20 minutes in a row.
Your keyboard must be white and crusty by now

Nah my keyboard is crusty when i see dopeborgs explode after Mount Ventoux like moments. Nothing makes me laugh more.
 
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EnacheV said:
JTL story was leaked by Pat

This all that Pat has on Sky so i feel sorry for Sky haters, your dreams will never become true. There is nothing else "covered" by corrupt UCI leadership.
You are a great addition to this forum, I like your style. Reminds me of someone though.

Nevertheless, wouldnt it be funny if Pat leaked the info to David? Kimmage will be peeed off if that is true...
 
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At least their real talents did pretty well today.

Also funny how the worlds leading cycling genius Brailsford couldnt figure out JTL was doping last year.
 

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the sceptic said:
Also funny how the worlds leading cycling genius Brailsford couldnt figure out JTL was doping last year.

I suspect he is gullible and can be tricked easy. Seems the type putting a lot on "honor" and "trust".
 
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EnacheV said:
I suspect he is gullible and can be tricked easy. Seems the type putting a lot on "honor" and "trust".

Uh-huh. That is why he schemed and plotted to help Wiggins break his word to Garmin, even going so far as to use extortion to break the contract. Very honorable of him. Brailsford is a scumbag, and scumbags do not trust other people based on traits that they themselves do not possess.
 
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Ferminal said:
Doping Fatigue OMFG.

It was the perfect course for a Froome spin-and-destroy festival with Porte right alongside. Where did all that February, March, April, May, June, July power go? No Froome for the TT either? Seems legit. Perfectly normal in fact.

As mentioned, Henao and Uran finish because they actually have some talent as previously shown in lower-ranked races.
 

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If they win from January to December = doping
If they win from February to July = doping

I think your problem is
If <big category of cyclists that you generally hate cause you are hater> wins they dope because i don't ****ing like them.

i think the truth is far away from you dopeborgs

P.S. even if one of them woul dbe caught doping, this won't mean you were right. You were lucky to have a 1% hit rate on your generalized hate.