Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[the sceptic]

Has anybody spotted Rogers today? Remembering last year I would expect to see him shepherding Contador all the way uphill and finishing with, say, Uran, his ex-teammate.
What's going on with him? Lack of motivation? Lazyness?

Btw, somebody has mentioned earlier Giro 2010 and that stage where Porte got maglia rosa. Look at the general classification after the stage - a familiar name in a group of esteemed climbers

He was in a group 17 minutes behind. Obviously became lazy and forgot how to train after he left sky.

 

[thehog]

And simultaneously dominating P-N. You gotta be kiddin me.

indeed.
This is BS of the NN-category.

JV is on Twitter telling everyone things are 'normal'.

 

[spalco]

As a disclaimer I have to say I wouldn't put 1 euro on Sky being clean.

But imo there's one flaw in the theory of 'Sky is ahead of the doping curve' (in whatever way) that has to be mentioned:
how can they trust their riders to keep their mouths shut once they leave considering the inherently transient nature of pro cycling teams and the crumbling strenght of the omerta?

or in other words: would Brailsfotd gamble his life's reputation on Rogers not pulling a Landis/Hamilton in a couple years? There are a lot of people at Sky who would be 'in the know' about this, what a risk to take...

 

[ghostofjoy]

Just a note on the numbers, seeing 5.93 w/kg as froome's average on the climb today. seems fairly human, even if the sky train seems robotic.

 

[Havetts]

When asked the secret of Team Sky's success, Froome said: "There's no secret. It's just continuing to work the way we worked in the last few years: training, measuring the training and going back and doing it again. There's not too much to it. It's about getting the basics right," he said, citing Team Sky's group training camps at altitude as just one example of the extra work they do as a team.

So. The rest of the peloton do not manage to get their basics right? Damn people like Riis are such incompetent managers even when being involved for more than 20 years in the sport.

Pretty amazing too, that Froome couldnt get the basics right before 2011 either, and now indirectly slams the opposition.

 

[willbick]

Just a note on the numbers, seeing 5.93 w/kg as froome's average on the climb today. seems fairly human, even if the sky train seems robotic.

Meh. who cares about boring facts when you can just waffle tedious bullsh1t innuendo based on nothing?

 

[blackcat]

JV is on Twitter telling everyone things are 'normal'.

left out the qualifier NOT


as in

NOT NORMAL


oh jonny vee
beat still my heart


.... like Kirchen

 

[Cyivel]

Meh. who cares about boring facts when you can just waffle tedious bullsh1t innuendo based on nothing?

So if any rider starts churning that out it's OK because it's not ridiculous?

Cool

 

[SeriousSam]

Meh. who cares about boring facts when you can just waffle tedious bullsh1t innuendo based on nothing?

There are some pretty damn interesting facts about how well Sky is doing relative to how the others are doing, compared with how Sky riders were doing when they weren't Sky riders.

 

[ghostofjoy]

Meh. who cares about boring facts when you can just waffle tedious bullsh1t innuendo based on nothing?

well, the thing that stands out to me is michael rogers being absolutely nowhere.

 

[bobbins]

Could anyone possibly put a Liggett USPS commentary on top of the video of the skybots riding to Bruyneels play book?

Their PR team will love that!

 

[bigcog]

Considering what we saw at the OS I think it's going to be a challenge. The Italians hate his gut. Nibali was just urinating all over the GB team in the road race and the Spaniards were also just doing everything to let them loose. The comments against Italian and Spanish riders won't be forgotten any time soon.



There is still AC.



I don't think he will be getting a leadership in a GT this year, but who knows?

Anyways, my opinion is that this won't go so smoothly.

Yes, AC better start munching a lot more steaks

 

[willbick]

of course rogers is nowhere - just like he was nowhere when he was on the sky train. have u ever bothered to notice where Rogers finished stages when he was on the sky train? minutes back, coz he only could ride his *** off for like 2/3 of a climb and then he'd die and pull off and ride up the rest slowly

 

[Havetts]

of course rogers is nowhere - just like he was nowhere when he was on the sky train. Have u ever bothered to notice where rogers finished stages when he was on the sky train? Minutes back, coz he only could ride his *** off for like 2/3 of a climb and then he'd die and pull off and ride up the rest slowly

hahahahahahahahahahahhahaha.

I must've missed the part on the Toussuire stage where he rode the Croix-de-Fer, Col du Mollard and a part of the Toussuire on the front and easily reeled in Evans' attack.

 

[willbick]

there are 100s of riders who could have performed the role that Rogers did for the Sky train

 

[willbick]

hahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

sorry bud, you'll have to elaborate

 

[bigcog]

Latest rumors in medical circles are that Sky is using a next gen EPO pill. This pill is still in early testing (phase 2 of in total 4 test phases before it can enter the market, if at all). This pill differs from previous EPO variants, as it does not increase hematocrit with unnatural substances, which means it is pretty much untracable. In essence, it increases hematorit due to manipulating gen transcription, distorting that so that the body artificially produces more natural EPO than normal.

Thought I might share, although it should be kept in mind that this is hearsay from a Belgian forum.

What is it called ? What you seem to describe is a form of genetic doping ?

 

[The Hitch]

my guess is that they have gene doped wiggins and froome, and are blood doping the foreign riders.
But there are hundreds of theories which could be the right one. The only one we can dismiss for sure is - they are clean.

 

[Benotti69]

Amazing how Sky lie now to media

VeloNews: On the first rest day of last year’s Tour, with Wiggins in yellow, Sky held a press conference. Before it started, a Sky representative told the all journalists not to ask any questions about doping. Why?

DarioCioni: I think there was a misunderstanding. If you remember, it was the same day the Cofidis rider got caught up [in a doping scandal] and Brad had the jersey. What we didn’t want to end up happening was that even with such an important thing as the stage win and the jersey we’d end up talking about the Cofidis guy who we knew nothing about and couldn’t even comment on. So that’s why, I think, things were misunderstood. And time was limited. At press conferences we try to do our best, but there isn’t infinite time, and TV still needs to do the one-to-ones. And, unluckily, you can’t have one day for press and no training. What we really wanted to avoid was sort of having this half hour and going on for 15 minutes about doping on Cofidis, which we knew nothing about anyway.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...transparency-wiggins-and-winning-tours_277210

So no questions about doping becuae it might get mixed up with Cofodis!!!!!!! Do they really believe we will swallow that? The guy who was finishing in the grupetto is now in yellow with a blue train and the media might want to ask about doping, wait for it, at cofodis?

The more they spout this stuff the more obvious they are hiding it. The only thing is they seem to think they wont get caught. Well i hope someone is storing samples, but I guess UCI are ensuring that is not happening.

 

[willbick]

if they are producing more natural EPO than normal why isnt it showing up on their blood passport?

 

[willbick]

why are all their riders producing 'clean' watts/kg performances if they are doped?

 

[Robert21]

if they are producing more natural EPO than normal why isnt it showing up on their blood passport?

Who knows what their passport results are? After all, the UCI control the data, and we know from Armstrong's case that they are willing to protect favoured riders, especially those that give riders from the 'mafia European nations' (to use McQuaids's xenophobic term) a bloody nose.

 

[The Hitch]

are u being sarcastic netserk? it is pretty clear that clean riders can only sustain a big effort at the end of a MTF for a short time so attacking several km's out is pretty pointless. u will just get slowly reeled back and then have less left for the finish

it's pretty clear you are an idiot.

 

[bigcog]

if they are producing more natural EPO than normal why isnt it showing up on their blood passport?

Don't ask sensible questions like that.

My theory is that they have genetically modified biharzia so that it produces additional ATP and oxygen for the host

 

[The Hitch]

I'm still wondering about how many idiots read CN.

The idiots here voted the Tour de France the best grand tour last year (that, after the Vuelta).

ROFLMAO

Same people who always voted tdf and Armstrong.

Oh and who voted for 2010 tdf the best race along with California