Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[airstream]

So sky arent much stronger, they just have the best domestiques and captains. Interesting theory

much stronger, if it is more understandable.

 

[Benotti69]

I can understand Benotti69, sniper, hrotha and other guys, who apparently are strongly against doping first of all and only then can support some riders (probably, sorry, I don't know for sure).

Dont see anyone to support in the current peloton. I watch the sport i love without attaching any emotion to any riders or teams.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

much stronger, if it is more understandable.

If only Darya could peak like Sky. She's hit her best form just in time for the season to end!

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Sky currently have the 3 best GT riders in the world...

Hmmm. How much will you be betting on anyone at Sky other than Wiggo and Froome achieving superior GT results to Berto this season?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

LOL WHAT??? You will ban me for this uttely democratically formulated post?

To be fair your first paragraph was a complete waste of space.
The second brought a legitimate question.

I could understand if Sky brought their A Tour or GT team to either race and had the doms dropping the bunch but not other world class riders.
But they were doing it in both races.
Not normal.

 

[the sceptic]

Hmmm. How much will you be betting on anyone at Sky other than Wiggo and Froome achieving superior GT results to Berto this season?

I wont bet on it, dont think Porte will get to ride a GT for himself. But i bet he wins giro 2014.

 

[airstream]

If only Darya could peak like Sky. She's hit her best form just in time for the season to end!

Wow, Sky cracked even you.

If Froome had attacked yesterday and gain a minute over the field, I would have been lost in thought. Porte beats Talansky, young rider, who only starts figuring out big races, Menchov, whose best days are way behind, weak Scarponi and badly prepared Gesink. And somehow it brings one's shock. The mind boggles...Guys, excuse me, but you are very tough conservators. Changes should be treated much more calmly. How these races should have finished, in your view?

 

[roundabout]

That's the point - Vayer knows Peraud is clean and his performance believable. Porte took over a minute out of him over 9.6km.

Not Normal

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFBA0sQCIAAwQfb.jpg:large

This explains some of the gap.

And it was 30 seconds.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

I'm a bit confused as to how the Sky fanboys can be so indignant that people dare suggest something is up with Sky.

Think on this, Skybots: For the last 30 years EVERY team that has rocked out with a dominating train up the climbs, EVERY team that has presented a squad that is stronger than the peloton, and EVERY team that has had riders that made massive improvements in climbing and TTing has been implicated in a doping debacle.

EVERY team...

 

[airstream]

I'm a bit confused as to how the Sky fanboys can be so indignant that people dare suggest something is up with Sky.

Think on this, Skybots: For the last 30 years EVERY team that has rocked out with a dominating train up the climbs, EVERY team that has presented a squad that is stronger than the peloton, and EVERY team that has had riders that made massive improvements in climbing and TTing has been implicated in a doping debacle.

EVERY team...

Like any other team in elite procycling.

 

[BYOP88]

I'm a bit confused as to how the Sky fanboys can be so indignant that people dare suggest something is up with Sky.

Think on this, Skybots: For the last 30 years EVERY team that has rocked out with a dominating train up the climbs, EVERY team that has presented a squad that is stronger than the peloton, and EVERY team that has had riders that made massive improvements in climbing and TTing has been implicated in a doping debacle.

EVERY team...

Also when did any of those teams, achieve the feat at races being run at the same time.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Like any other team in elite procycling.

You got upset when your earlier post was classed on the edge of trolling.
Yet now you are claiming every team in elite pro cycling is doing what Sky are?

And I don't remember any other team (not even Garmin) saying they were going to have a Zero Tolerance Policy.

 

[thehog]

Like any other team in elite procycling.

I wonder if Sky has team rules like this:

http://www.cyclisme.ag2rlamondiale.fr/english/anti-doping/code-of-conduct.asp

http://www.cyclisme.ag2rlamondiale.fr/english/anti-doping/measures-uphold-clean-sport.asp

http://www.cyclisme.ag2rlamondiale.fr/english/anti-doping/measures-uphold-clean-sport.asp

http://www.cyclisme.ag2rlamondiale.fr/english/anti-doping/recruitment.asp

Probably not.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Like any other team in elite procycling.

That's an utterly misleading statement, and I'm pretty sure you're aware of that...

 

[bianchigirl]

Wow, Sky cracked even you.

If Froome had attacked yesterday and gain a minute over the field, I would have been lost in thought. Porte beats Talansky, young rider, who only starts figuring out big races, Menchov, whose best days are way behind, weak Scarponi and badly prepared Gesink. And somehow it brings one's shock. The mind boggles...Guys, excuse me, but you are very tough conservators. Changes should be treated much more calmly. How these races should have finished, in your view?

Look at 99 TdF - or any of the TdFs Armstrong won - not anything like the quality of the fields of the 80s and 90s - you beat what's there. It's not who you beat but how you do it.

Of course we Brits down't dope, wouldn't dream of it

 

[mattghg]

Walsh is on Tenerife

https://twitter.com/DavidWalshST/status/310747758241918979

Just arrived in Tenerife where I will spend five days inside Team Sky. Their Classics team plus Bradley Wiggins are here on a training camp.

Watch this space.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Wow, Sky cracked even you.

Doesn't bother me too much. I like your women's team, but I have always rooted for the DSV.

 

[del1962]

https://twitter.com/DavidWalshST/status/310747758241918979



Watch this space.

Someone has asked him to ask Matt Hayman about what he saw at Rabo, suprised this hasn't been mentioned in this thread, with Matt not talking to media on it.

 

[Trudgin]

Armstrong takes another hit. He was hoping to hold on to the title for most sophisticated doping program in sport but it looks like there is new title holder that makes him look like a piker.

Hahahahahahahahahaha

I wish I'd thought of that!

 

[the sceptic]

Someone has asked him to ask Matt Hayman about what he saw at Rabo, suprised this hasn't been mentioned in this thread, with Matt not talking to media on it.

Should ask him who is treating the saddle sores now.

 

[martinvickers]

Hahahahahahahahahaha

I wish I'd thought of that!

He's in danger of losing it to Rabo retrospectively anyway.

LA was cheating scum. but he was far from alone.

 

[Netserk]

He's in danger of losing it to Rabo retrospectively anyway.

LA was cheating scum. but he was far from alone.

Says more about your interpretation of things, than anything else.

 

[thehog]

Looks like Contador has devised his plans based on the numbers witnessed.

"Whatever the final result, this race has been really useful for me because I'd only ever seen how Sky work on television, never in person," he revealed after pulling on the red points jersey.

"I'd never seen it from on the bike and seen the numbers on the SRM. I think in some ways this will help me to plan the tactics for the Tour."

 

[Cyivel]

Hog, do you think we have seen the full *** yet or is there more to come?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

He's in danger of losing it to Rabo retrospectively anyway.

LA was cheating scum. but he was far from alone.

Nah Rabo just doped and lied. Thats standard formula.

LA offered hope, had a 'charity' and more beards than an elf conference.
Look at brads book, it was not a Sally jenkins masterpiece of horsedung - it was more Angelas Ashes.
We discussed it earlier - they need to start a foundation, Wiggins Tourrettes Foundation (WTF) and a way of turning their loyal fans in to cash cows.