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WildspokeJoe said:
I was thinking the same thing.

I guess by 'tactics' Walsh means Kiryienka go full guns at the bottom of the climb then Froome attack from the front (I thought it was tactically wise to attack from behind - apparently not) and Porte counter once everyone's matches are spent.

Earlier I thought it would be near impossible for SKY to win all three GTs. I'm beginning to rethink that position.
Not just winning, but swipe all three podium :D

Sky is the limit lol
 
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zalacain said:

Yea, his family owns that sidrería, and his brother will probably take charge of it when he retires. Asier's older, hard-working, just his brother is so much better it must be pretty frustrating for him, a bit like being Simon Fourcade or Fränk Schleck. Although at this point in their careers the gulf in success between them is more indicative of his being Juraj Sagan.
 

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xcleigh said:
Question the performance, absolutely, but just a small point, when did the Criterium International become a Grand Tour?

Lance deflection tactic #143.

We've seen it before.

Stick to point.

Skyborgs are smashing the sport apart! :eek:
 
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Froome's new Nike ad:

What am I on? I'm on team Sky, riding intelligently 6 hours a day. Nothing to see here. Geert who?

Just do it.
 

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Lanark said:
Yeah, at least Armstrong was kind enough to only make a joke of the Tour de France. Sky makes a mockery of the entire season.

Very good!

Did Porte put 25secs into the dawg then slow?
 
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Parrot23 said:
ROFLMAO, clearly, the Devil is a dour fellow. Not much of a sense of humour. :eek:

Looks like Hitch is in fine form, though.

Not really. Its Richie and the sky fan media that claim sky train harder than everyone else. Same claims they made about Armstrong. I'm just reminding people of that interpretation. And presumably as someone who regularly chides those who question sky, you are one of those who buy that interpretation. So I don't know why you think I was joking. Do you think bailsford is joking when he says it?
 
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I just wonder what they are taking at Sky, how they do it and if we are dealing with the same old suspects, drug wise, or if we are witnessing new methods/drugs.

It must suck if all the speculation turns out to be fact. Honestly, it still looks very fishy and unnatural at Sky and I would bet my own money on foul play.
 
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The Froome 'attack' was like Armstrong Sestriere 1999, just ride everyone out of the wheel making tempo. At least the tool has his classics straight.

Barf.

Tactics, poor opposition, friggin get real. Porte was sprinting uphill like it was a third degree climb. It was, to him.

Cannot wait until every pro team goes to train at Teide.
 
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LMAO at least Armstrong and USPS only dominated the tour. Sky just own every stage race they go too.. This is just ridiculous really.. Only thing u can do about it is just laugh really.
 
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The Hitch said:
Not really. Its Richie and the sky fan media that claim sky train harder than everyone else. Same claims they made about Armstrong. I'm just reminding people of that interpretation. And presumably as someone who regularly chides those who question sky, you are one of those who buy that interpretation. So I don't know why you think I was joking. Do you think bailsford is joking when he says it?

I think Porte has said he is training harder at Sky than he did at Saxo, not that he trains harder than anyone else.

I suspect there are those riders who will train hard whever they are, like say Contador, Cancellara, Van Den Broeck, and those that need a more structured approach.

In Wiggins first season at Sky he was basically in charge of his own training (and from all accounts didn't train that hard), which didn't work out to well, but in 2011/2012 his training was monitored more.
 

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del1962 said:
I think Porte has said he is training harder at Sky than he did at Saxo, not that he trains harder than anyone else.

I suspect there are those riders who will train hard whever they are, like say Contador, Cancellara, Van Den Broeck, and those that need a more structured approach.

In Wiggins first season at Sky he was basically in charge of his own training (and from all accounts didn't train that hard), which didn't work out to well, but in 2011/2012 his training was monitored more.

Could you define "training harder"?

What does it actually mean?
 
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thehog said:
Could you define "training harder"?

What does it actually mean?

Actually it hould be training smarter not necessarily harder.

I think training harder/smarter is what Wiggo did in 2011/2012 compared to what he did in 2010
 

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del1962 said:
Actually it hould be training smarter not necessarily harder.

I think training harder/smarter is what Wiggo did in 2011/2012 compared to what he did in 2010

You think?

Do other teams/riders train smarter or harder?

What defines smarter?

I assume what gives you an extra 30watts is smarter.
 
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Clausfarre said:
I just wonder what they are taking at Sky, how they do it and if we are dealing with the same old suspects, drug wise, or if we are witnessing new methods/drugs.

It must suck if all the speculation turns out to be fact. Honestly, it still looks very fishy and unnatural at Sky and I would bet my own money on foul play.

You danish people make me sick. You gave us cheats like Riis and Rasmussen. But rather than thank the Brits for making the sport clean and bringing some legitimacy back to the sport you guys are too bitter to accept that sky would never dope and ask stupid senseless questions like why Rasmussens doctor was working with sky if they are clean.

because he wanted to win on a clean team, duh. With Rasmussen he had to dope the riders but with sky since they aren't doping and doping is his speciality so he doesn't have to do anything. They were paying him lots of money to do nothing, who would turn down such a offer.

You guys should be building statues of froome and bailsford and thanking them for saving sport from the chaos you put it in. You danish and the other European people are the problem. Let sky be the solution ffs. Who better to lead the way to clean sport afterall than a major capitalist company that has proven itself to have absolutely 0 morals.

It's a disgrace that you try to hinder those who are carrying the water for your sins. Pathetic.
 
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thehog said:
You think?

Do other teams/riders train smarter or harder?

What defines smarter?

I assume what gives you an extra 30watts is smarter.

No. Training harder is what will gain an extra 30 watts.
Training smarter means to train in a way that makes the harder training easier.
See?
 
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
The Froome 'attack' was like Armstrong Sestriere 1999, just ride everyone out of the wheel making tempo. At least the tool has his classics straight.

Barf.

Tactics, poor opposition, friggin get real. Porte was sprinting uphill like it was a third degree climb. It was, to him.

Cannot wait until every pro team goes to train at Teide.

Gesink is now going to Teide for training camp for Giro, no joke.
So can we expect Gesink to suddenly crush all life force on earth in may? Together with the Sky clowns?
 
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webbie146 said:
Sky's dominance in all those stage races... Is it Dr.Ferrari?

Nah, Dr. Ferrari is a hack. Don't forget that Rogers produced worst figures when he was training under Ferrari and using blood transfusions than he did at the clean team. Armstrong must be furious with himself that he worked with that clown, if he worked with Kerrison he could have won the Tour even more often, and all clean.

Who could have known that cooling down was more effective than 500CC of blood?
 
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Lanark said:
Nah, Dr. Ferrari is a hack. Don't forget that Rogers produced worst figures when he was training under Ferrari and using blood transfusions than he did at the clean team. Armstrong must be furious with himself that he worked with that clown, if he worked with Kerrison he could have won the Tour even more often, and all clean.

Who could have known that cooling down was more effective than 500CC of blood?

Yes the swim coach is amazing! If only Lance had Kerrison he would had been a 8th time winner of the tdf!
 
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del1962 said:
In Wiggins first season at Sky he was basically in charge of his own training (and from all accounts didn't train that hard), which didn't work out to well, but in 2011/2012 his training was monitored more.
Do your homework and ask where Wiggins was training in 2009. It was not at or under the supervision of Garmin, or that is what we are led to believe.

BC/SKY: the cancer is back from remission.

Sorry for my language.

Gesink is now going to Teide for training camp for Giro, no joke.
So can we expect Gesink to suddenly crush all life force on earth in may? Together with the Sky clowns?
We'll see, do you think other teams will stay letting their a@@es get kicked by donkeys? Blanco needs a new sponsor, if the Gendt can become third in the Giro?
Who could have known that cooling down was more effective than 500CC of blood?
Indeed.

And, the good part of it is, Team Sky do no even hide it; they live high and train high. But, not for the extra red blood cells, just for acclimatisation.