Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[MatParker117]

IIRC there was some statement from Sky that this is the case. When they were getting everyone to (re-)sign the declaration last year, people were saying this was really bad for transparency because no-one would admit to doping in the past if they knew they'd be sacked as a result. Possibly as a result, some statement came out saying that anyone who admitted it then and there would at least get a payoff, whereas if anything came out later they'd be sacked immediately and without a payoff (thus apparently creating some motivation for people to be honest).

a years pay is pretty standard in most cases.

 

[RownhamHill]

I agree, Flech could be out on his ear when Brailsford hears about this.

Brailsford is controlling the recruitment at Vaconsolei? That's quite the zero tolerance policy!

 

[thehog]

LOL! Look at Haeno's attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KymA52zDepc&sns=em

Pulled out 300 meters in about 15 seconds.

Porte was soft pedaling.

 

[the sceptic]

When is Henao gonna start working on his time trial position and his cadence? If he can just cut 2-3 minutes of his ITT times he can be a future grand tour winner as well.

 

[zalacain]

LOL! Look at Haeno's attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KymA52zDepc&sns=em

Pulled out 300 meters in about 15 seconds.

Porte was soft pedaling.

Just like Pantani on the Peyresourde

 

[Escarabajo]

LOL! Look at Haeno's attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KymA52zDepc&sns=em

Pulled out 300 meters in about 15 seconds.

Porte was soft pedaling.

Who is Haeno??

At least Henao was a good talent since very young age just like Uran. The came out about the same time.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Well, not really, since Henao was still in Colombia and hadn't yet surprised everyone with his GC chops there when Urán had been on the podium of a monument, and got tongues wagging with his final week performance in the mountains of the Tour de France. But I generally agree, Henao is a guy who has shown the talent from an early age and we expected would be a big star when he arrived in Europe and there's no real shock transformation taken place with him at all. He did win the Vuelta a Colombia riding around half the country arm in arm with Óscar Sevilla, though, if you really want something to hold against him.

 

[leon7766]

When is Henao gonna start working on his time trial position and his cadence? If he can just cut 2-3 minutes of his ITT times he can be a future grand tour winner as well.

Bit by bit thats the Sky way .There are no quick fixes in Sky cycling other than hard work

 

[hfer07]

Sky has just gone one step up:

They don't need to send Froome anymore to beat Contador......

 

[the sceptic]

Bit by bit thats the Sky way .There are no quick fixes in Sky cycling other than hard work

No one trains like them, they train harder and smarter than anyone.

Theyre on their bikes busting their asses 6 hours a day. You gotta dream big and believe in miracles. There are no secrets, only hard work and marginal gains.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Well, not really, since Henao was still in Colombia and hadn't yet surprised everyone with his GC chops there when Urán had been on the podium of a monument, and got tongues wagging with his final week performance in the mountains of the Tour de France. But I generally agree, Henao is a guy who has shown the talent from an early age and we expected would be a big star when he arrived in Europe and there's no real shock transformation taken place with him at all. He did win the Vuelta a Colombia riding around half the country arm in arm with Óscar Sevilla, though, if you really want something to hold against him.

Chapeau, a Sky rider given the benefit of the doubt. No surprise he's a Colombian though

 

[Netserk]

I think he's a natural talent and doper. Just like (I think of) many others.

 

[BroDeal]

Bit by bit thats the Sky way .There are no quick fixes in Sky cycling other than hard work

This has to be the least successful troll we have ever seen.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Yes, we are all out to get the brits.

 

[JimmyFingers]

I think he's a natural talent and doper. Just like (I think of) many others.

It is suitably all-encompassing, chapeau

 

[BYOP88]

Can't wait for next year Joe Dombrowski and Ian Boswell will take American cycling back to the top, thanks to Sky and their marginal gains.#gottalovethespecialrelationship!

 

[JimmyFingers]

Yes, we are all out to get the brits.

Well you aren't, but the rest of them are, the swines

 

[JimmyFingers]

This has to be the least successful troll we have ever seen.

Even outshining your good self....

 

[BroDeal]

Well you aren't, but the rest of them are, the swines

You jingoistic types ought to save yourself some work by finding posts made ten years ago by American Armstrong defenders. Switch occurrences of the French hating America to everyone hating Britain then post. You would save a lot of time.

 

[BYOP88]

You jingoistic types ought to save yourself some work by finding posts made ten years ago by Armerican Armstrong defenders. Switch occurrences of the French hating America to everyone hating Britain then post. You would save a lot of time.

Dammit! I didn't get that memo, I was to busy 'hating' Armstrong.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Good to see Kirienka got the day of today, he will have to pace over 3 mountains tomorrow.

 

[thehog]

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

The clinic is a learning school santayana quoted

 

[Lanark]

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

''Training is copying. Toni Rominger prospered greatly last year at a high age, partly due to altitude training in in Colorado. So Breuking and Zülle will head that way in july. [...] Hennie Kuiper: ''Italians are ahead of their time. They always were. [...] That whole EPO-story is blown out of proportion. Even if it was used, why would only Italians do it, while you can acquire it easily in Switserland?''

''There is no secret, and it isn't a wonder'' says Eddy Merckx. [...] France, Belgium and the Netherlands are years behind [in organisation]. That already was the case in my time.''

http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/5009/Arch...ziet-zijn-carriere-langzaam-doodbloeden.dhtml

Article a couple of days after one of the darkest days of our sport, the Fleche Wallone where Gewiss dominated the entire podium. Almost 20 years later, but the excuses are the same. Altitude training. More professional, better organised. No doping of course, it's doubtfull that's even used. Most Sky fans probably started watching cycling 2 or 3 years ago. But for the people following this sport longer, it's not hard to find out why we don't believe the same lies told by a different team.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Altitude training. More professional, better organised. No doping of course, it's doubtfull that's even used. Most Sky fans probably started watching cycling 2 or 3 years ago. But for the people following this sport longer, it's not hard to find out why we don't believe the same lies told by a different team.

Then presumably you'll believe no lies told by any team or riders that are winning? I have no problem with that, everyone is dirty