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- Sep 29, 2012
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No, I meant he doped, but not all by himself. If he could dope that successfully all by himself he should start a doping business coz he'd make more money 
If Porte isn't smart enough to get some good dope by himself does that mean that he is going to suck next year? I think you guys are underestimating the Tassie.
His early season form would have been enough to match Froome in a week long race. I think the chances of him getting busted is higher than of him being really bad. An out of competition positive test from his Saxo days will show up if he is being too good.
His early season form would have been enough to match Froome in a week long race. I think the chances of him getting busted is higher than of him being really bad. An out of competition positive test from his Saxo days will show up if he is being too good.
I'd like to see if he can match Froome first. At least in a one week race. He doesn't seem to be scared of Froome like most of the other riders do.
But him getting busted would be a good laugh too.
But him getting busted would be a good laugh too.
- Aug 30, 2010
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I don't see LRP ever getting busted, even if he is challenging Froome. UCI will look at it as, "oh look, isn't this great, a cleans Richie and a cleans Dawg battling it out. This just proves that the peloton is so much cleaner. Good lads." What BS. If , and hopefully, AC tears them each a new a hole, UCI will frown on it but he is in no danger of getting busted either. 2016 is the year of anything goes. Unless of course you are a small fish with no money to defenf yourself.
I don't see LRP ever getting busted, even if he is challenging Froome. UCI will look at it as, "oh look, isn't this great, a cleans Richie and a cleans Dawg battling it out. This just proves that the peloton is so much cleaner. Good lads." What BS. If , and hopefully, AC tears them each a new a hole, UCI will frown on it but he is in no danger of getting busted either. 2016 is the year of anything goes. Unless of course you are a small fish with no money to defenf yourself.
- Jul 21, 2012
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I assume Dawg getting hacked was another lie from team sky since we haven't heard anything about it ever since.
one of those "we'll lie about this now while the pressure is on and then hope people will never ask about it again"
one of those "we'll lie about this now while the pressure is on and then hope people will never ask about it again"
- Apr 30, 2014
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I don't disagree that they were being dishonest with a lot of information during the tour, but this is the one bit that might actually be true.
It has to be if we're to believe in Vayers video.
If that's the case wouldn't that invalidate the data that was overlaid to the video of CF climbing Ventoux?the sceptic said:
I don't disagree that they were being dishonest with a lot of information during the tour, but this is the one bit that might actually be true.
It has to be if we're to believe in Vayers video.
- Jun 9, 2014
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I would guess the data was leaked by an insider, but it could've been hacked too. The end result is the same, unauthorized sharing of the data.
- Sep 29, 2012
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Not necessarily. I believe Sky gave data to a newspaper or journo? Someone then passed some of it around.
Sky claimed hacking to try and obfuscate the impact the video with overlayed data was having. To control the message, as it were. Distract the media.
Once it was shown the data had been released by them and not stolen, they needed to distance themselves entirely from that story as it made them look stupid. Again.
This speaks to their, "leave no stone unturned" method of running the team, and proves it as incorrect, given the knee jerk reaction to the event.
irondan said:
Not necessarily. I believe Sky gave data to a newspaper or journo? Someone then passed some of it around.
Sky claimed hacking to try and obfuscate the impact the video with overlayed data was having. To control the message, as it were. Distract the media.
Once it was shown the data had been released by them and not stolen, they needed to distance themselves entirely from that story as it made them look stupid. Again.
This speaks to their, "leave no stone unturned" method of running the team, and proves it as incorrect, given the knee jerk reaction to the event.
- Feb 10, 2010
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We know Froome's never testing positive but we don't know how the UCI views Porte. Are they willing to do a Landis/Hamilton again if Porte's too good? That would be amazing.
Porte's a real wildcard. Four months of world dominating racing in 2015, then circumstances changed.
LeindersGains said:
We know Froome's never testing positive but we don't know how the UCI views Porte. Are they willing to do a Landis/Hamilton again if Porte's too good? That would be amazing.
Porte's a real wildcard. Four months of world dominating racing in 2015, then circumstances changed.
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- Jul 27, 2009
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I've always thought LRP will be the first (outside JTL) to get popped. He has enough stupid in him to think he is indestructible but without the Sky bullet-proof positive armor he will get sloppy and go down.
When you watch him at Sky trying to beat up on everyone from French riders to 12 year kids on the side of the road you think this guy is ripe to bring his AICAR to the race.
DirtyWorks said:
I've always thought LRP will be the first (outside JTL) to get popped. He has enough stupid in him to think he is indestructible but without the Sky bullet-proof positive armor he will get sloppy and go down.
When you watch him at Sky trying to beat up on everyone from French riders to 12 year kids on the side of the road you think this guy is ripe to bring his AICAR to the race.
Shall we expect even fuller *** stuff from SkyBorgs in 2016? Classics, Giro, Tour, Rio... margins of the gains blowing colossal?
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"I think now we've got the Giro route and the Tour route we can create our 'winning documents' as we always do and start to analyse which riders are right for which races," Brailsford said. "But we are serious about the Giro this year. And instead of having an 'A team' and a 'B team' as it were, sometimes, I want two A teams.
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"I think now we've got the Giro route and the Tour route we can create our 'winning documents' as we always do and start to analyse which riders are right for which races," Brailsford said. "But we are serious about the Giro this year. And instead of having an 'A team' and a 'B team' as it were, sometimes, I want two A teams.
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Landa + Sky is the most terrifying combination I can think of. On pineapple juice, he has the potential to be better than Froome. I expect him to win Tour of Basque Country and Giro del Trentino without even trying. Since most of the top riders go to the Tour, Landa should be by far the strongest climber if he is in the same shape as last year. Nibali is no challenge in the mountains. However, his time trial skills is going to be a challenge. Sky is known for being able to turn rouleurs into climbers but can they turn climbers in to rouleurs? That's the question.
Thomas is the new Porte. And he will not disappoint. Froome will do the same trick in the Tour with him that he did with Porte when we hit the first mountain stage. Since Froome is likely to suffer from a "mild chest infection" like in the couple of last years, I could see the upgraded Thomas outclimb some of the specialized goats like Porte did this year. Paris-Nice is Sky's race.
Froome is an open book. He'll win his first stage race of the year then fade. After a "mild chest infection", he'll go into Romandie as a strong contender, win Dauphine and ultra-peak for the Tour which he will win easily. After the same questions from "The French", he will as always make it look like he is fading in the last couple of mountain stages when he is really not. Whatever he will win the Olympics or not, I don't know.
Vivani has a good chance of winning Milano-Sanremo and Kwiatkowski of winning and Ardennes classics or two. But in one-day races, you need some luck.
doperhopper said:
Landa + Sky is the most terrifying combination I can think of. On pineapple juice, he has the potential to be better than Froome. I expect him to win Tour of Basque Country and Giro del Trentino without even trying. Since most of the top riders go to the Tour, Landa should be by far the strongest climber if he is in the same shape as last year. Nibali is no challenge in the mountains. However, his time trial skills is going to be a challenge. Sky is known for being able to turn rouleurs into climbers but can they turn climbers in to rouleurs? That's the question.
Thomas is the new Porte. And he will not disappoint. Froome will do the same trick in the Tour with him that he did with Porte when we hit the first mountain stage. Since Froome is likely to suffer from a "mild chest infection" like in the couple of last years, I could see the upgraded Thomas outclimb some of the specialized goats like Porte did this year. Paris-Nice is Sky's race.
Froome is an open book. He'll win his first stage race of the year then fade. After a "mild chest infection", he'll go into Romandie as a strong contender, win Dauphine and ultra-peak for the Tour which he will win easily. After the same questions from "The French", he will as always make it look like he is fading in the last couple of mountain stages when he is really not. Whatever he will win the Olympics or not, I don't know.
Vivani has a good chance of winning Milano-Sanremo and Kwiatkowski of winning and Ardennes classics or two. But in one-day races, you need some luck.
- Sep 29, 2012
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I reckon Porte will re-do Cadel. He'll come 2nd maybe, or top 5 for a few years, but only crack the big one if there's a lull and the top guys crash / injure / positive out of the race.
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Yeah. There are two possible scenarios for next year:
a.) He is going to suck badly without scientific™ assistance from Brailsford.
b.) He is being "too good" so he will either get busted from his early days with Uncle Bjarne or from a fresh positive test while riding for the BMC team..
I'd say it's 50/50.
thehog said:
Yeah. There are two possible scenarios for next year:
a.) He is going to suck badly without scientific™ assistance from Brailsford.
b.) He is being "too good" so he will either get busted from his early days with Uncle Bjarne or from a fresh positive test while riding for the BMC team..
I'd say it's 50/50.
I think LRP has won his last stage race.
He'll not be able to defend his Paris-Nice and Catalunya titles.
He'll not be able to defend his Paris-Nice and Catalunya titles.
- Jun 27, 2013
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That would be quite a feat.
EDIT: Why did the rest of my post get erased? All I did was post a quote from his buddy Nick Gates that didn't paint Cadel's personality in a good light.
Benotti69 said:
That would be quite a feat.
EDIT: Why did the rest of my post get erased? All I did was post a quote from his buddy Nick Gates that didn't paint Cadel's personality in a good light.
- Jul 15, 2013
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Hard to predict
He might take this route, disappoint and not win anything until his contract runs out, then snatch a Vuelta win right in timeLeindersGains said:
Hard to predict
- May 23, 2009
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I see LRP and TJVG having mixed results next year and some leadership squabbles as a result. If Porte does fly too close to the sun then we all know one thing is for sure - no +ves will show up from his Sky years, even though he had his best form there.
The question is, will LRP go nuclear if he does get busted? If his ex teammates throw him to the wolves I think it's likely.
The question is, will LRP go nuclear if he does get busted? If his ex teammates throw him to the wolves I think it's likely.
- Sep 29, 2012
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Coz like, in 2015 I was only going 90% ya know?
roflcopters.
Gonna be great to discuss these riders in this thread now.
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