Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[roundabout]

Imagine if it had worked - which many believed it would...

This thread would have been a few hundred posts longer by now.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

The man, the legend, the one and only

Luca Paolini.

You are right, my fault. 20 k interval extra for me tomorrow!

I really enjoyed todays last hour. This was the peloton saying: 'fok y SKy'. Even watch Greipel looking at Boonen after the finish.

Three Swiss plus Cancellara
Three Spanjards plus Luis Leon
etc etc

That is road racing Brailsford, u f....... w.....er.

Paolini was there and has classics pedigree, and finished in the top 10, so him. I don't understand the confusion

Luca sprints like me nowadays, he is even younger.

Too bad Taylor didn't hit the podium but Krivtsov, pfff, awsome performance.

 

[Darryl Webster]

 

[xcleigh]

Will you endulge me telling who for Nibali was riding his balls of? Gesink? Sanchez?

Well unlike you I'm not a mind reader, one can only presume to think what the reasons are, might be a fun game guessing though!

The whole peloton knows what the GB tactics will likely be, similar to the worlds no? Therefore to say because no-one was helping GB and they were all attacking them does not automatically follow that the reason they are doing so is through hate. Maybe they are trying to win the bloody race!

 

[trompe le monde]

As others have stated, I found it incredible that both Wiggins and Froome could do so much yeomen's work for Cav. Watching the Sky/GB 4+ hour lead out train was an experience that nestled somewhere between the surreal and the absurd.

 

[Franklin]

As others have stated, I found it incredible that both Wiggins and Froome could do so much yeomen's work for Cav. Watching the Sky/GB 4+ hour lead out train was an experience that nestled somewhere between the surreal and the absurd.

Make that a neat five hours and three quarters.

Without cynism: Wiggins did one of the greatest performances I have ever seen of a cyclist.

When he fell back at 25 km I was sure he was gripping his left side because of pain, but he went at it again. Respect. (No sarcasm)

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Well unlike you I'm not a mind reader, one can only presume to think what the reasons are, might be a fun game guessing though!

The whole peloton knows what the GB tactics will likely be, similar to the worlds no? Therefore to say because no-one was helping GB and they were all attacking them does not automatically follow that the reason they are doing so is through hate. Maybe they are trying to win the bloody race!

Unlikely of U I have been a follower of cyling for thirty plus years. I know who Nibali was riding for/against. I know who Eisel and his fellow Austrian was riding for. Sky got beaten by the peloton. Nice day, simple as that. A big fat F U to brailsord and his assassins.

 

[Jeanne]

Make that a neat five hours and three quarters.

Without cynism: Wiggins did one of the greatest performances I have ever seen of a cyclist.

When he fell back at 25 km I was sure he was gripping his left side because of pain, but he went at it again. Respect. (No sarcasm)

Ok, agree here. And he and his british fellows were favorits and racing in their home country, at the olympics, of course you will go and give it all you can, stay at the front and try. What a ride today!

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

I think the lack of radios added an extra element as well.

No more remote-controlled racing, figure it out on the road and race with some b*lls!

 

[Forunculo]

Unlikely of U I have been a follower of cyling for thirty plus years. I know who Nibali was riding for/against. I know who Eisel and his fellow Austrian was riding for. Sky got beaten by the peloton. Nice day, simple as that. A big fat F U to brailsord and his assassins.

I saw the same race.


The winner is a doper and a corrupt but at the same time one of the best of last decade.

But better than 4 Sky/GB men covering 250 km to let Cav to do the last 200m.

 

[xcleigh]

Unlikely of U I have been a follower of cyling for thirty plus years. I know who Nibali was riding for/against. I know who Eisel and his fellow Austrian was riding for. Sky got beaten by the peloton. Nice day, simple as that. A big fat F U to brailsord and his assassins.

Oh and how long have I been cycle watching, riding and racing then? Have a guess? Of course Nibali was riding against GB, that is the point of a race, isn't it? And of course Eisel was riding for Cav, so what?

So your hypothesis is that because people in a race were trying to beat someone else/team in that same race the signs therefore all point towards the reason as being hatred. As I said I think from my (limited?, you tell me) experience they were trying to win the blooming race.

 

[Darryl Webster]

Just throwing it out there for contemplation. Isn't the Olympic medical control NOT under the influence of the UCI ?.... I dont think I need to explain my devious pondering

 

[BroDeal]

As others have stated, I found it incredible that both Wiggins and Froome could do so much yeomen's work for Cav. Watching the Sky/GB 4+ hour lead out train was an experience that nestled somewhere between the surreal and the absurd.

It's like they are so hopped up on dope that they think they are invincible. Tactics go out the window and there is not even a thought about conserving energy.

 

[xcleigh]

It's like they are so hopped up on dope that they think they are invincible. Tactics go out the window and there is not even a thought about conserving energy.

What does hopped up on dope look like out of interest? just so I know?
Surley the tactic was to get Cav to the finish for a bunch sprint, you know like at the worlds.That is a tactic isn't it? One that didn't work this time but is nonetheless a tactic.

Cavendish said: "We rode the exact race we wanted to ride. We wanted to control it and we wanted the group at a minute. We expected teams to come and chase at the end with us. We controlled it with four guys for 250 km and we couldn't do more. We are human beings.
"There was a group of 22 who got away and we couldn't pull them back. The four guys who ran all day couldn't do it. The Germans came a bit too late and the other teams seemed to be more content that they wouldn't win as long as we didn't win. That's kind of how it goes.

 

[Franklin]

What does hopped up on dope look like out of interest? just so I know?

I certainly don't have any precedent of what team GB managed to do today.

I have never seen something remotely bizarre.

 

[the big ring]

LOVED Vino's clean, honest, gentleman nice guy of the bunch win.

Cavendish sat on all day and couldn't even win the bunch kick!?

TTT in 2013 TdF? Sky will kick *** after today's training ride - what an effort.

Today more than anything made me long for no more race radios. There's more than a few teams who would take 12 months just to catch up on how to race again.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

It's all easy to say in hindsight.
But we knew what GBs tactic was going to be - i would question what Germany & to a lesser extent Australia were doing.
Kudos to Italy, Spain & Belguim for making it a great race but the gap was only 1 minute for from 50k out, had another team helped earlier many would be complaining about how boring and predictable it all was.

Doping talk aside - today was a proper race, and a badas$ won it.

 

[the big ring]

It's all easy to say in hindsight.
But we knew what GBs tactic was going to be - i would question what Germany & to a lesser extent Australia were doing.
Kudos to Italy, Spain & Belguim for making it a great race but the gap was only 1 minute for from 50k out, had another team helped earlier many would be complaining about how boring and predictable it all was.

Doping talk aside - today was a proper race, and a badas$ won it.

Oi

Australia were in the break, coming 6th.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Agree with all Darryl and Big Ring say. The lack of radios, watching Sky/GB's TTT for four hours out front was simply postal; then to see Cav with nothing in the tank, or simply beaten into submission with 10k to go because it was too damned late, and a wily old vet outsmarted them all. Great to see in a way only pro cycling can deliver.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Agree with all Darryl and Big Ring say. The lack of radios, watching Sky/GB's TTT for four hours out front was simply postal; then to see Cav with nothing in the tank, or simply beaten into submission with 10k to go because it was too damned late, and a wily old vet outsmarted them all. Great to see in a way only pro cycling can deliver.

Yeah! I wonder if the smaller team didn't limit the effectiveness of their program.

I'm wondering if the power from "The Progam" is already vanishing. It will be very interesting to see if Sky has the ITT program they've dreamed about.

FYI, NBC in the U.S. had a bit of start-line video with Team Sky meet and greet with Prince Charles AND Pat doing the intros. Yeah, there's nothing going on there.

 

[hrotha]

Yeah! I wonder if the smaller team didn't limit the effectiveness of their program.

I'm wondering if the power from "The Progam" is already vanishing. It will be very interesting to see if Sky has the ITT program they've dreamed about.

FYI, NBC in the U.S. had a bit of start-line video with Team Sky meet and greet with Prince Charles AND Pat doing the intros. Yeah, there's nothing going on there.

I didn't think the power is vanishing at all. Wiggins wouldn't have won the Tour if he had been pacing the peloton fast for 200 km either.

What they did today was incredible, even if they failed in the end.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Just throwing it out there for contemplation. Isn't the Olympic medical control NOT under the influence of the UCI ?.... I dont think I need to explain my devious pondering

Nooo... This is mostly the UCI's production. WADA is testing. We know that the IOC is very permissive about doping. So, as much as the UCI is dope-friendly, the IOC is too.

 

[will10]

I didn't think the power is vanishing at all. Wiggins wouldn't have won the Tour if he had been pacing the peloton fast for 200 km either.

What they did today was incredible, even if they failed in the end.

Spot on. The fact that they were on the front all day, everyone tried to get away, and at 20km to go there was still a chance of getting a break of 30 back, shows how frigging incredible Wiggins, Froomey Millar and Stannard were today.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I didn't think the power is vanishing at all. Wiggins wouldn't have won the Tour if he had been pacing the peloton fast for 200 km either.

What they did today was incredible, even if they failed in the end.

fair enough!

 

[xcleigh]

Yeah! I wonder if the smaller team didn't limit the effectiveness of their program.

I'm wondering if the power from "The Progam" is already vanishing. It will be very interesting to see if Sky has the ITT program they've dreamed about.

FYI, NBC in the U.S. had a bit of start-line video with Team Sky meet and greet with Prince Charles AND Pat doing the intros. Yeah, there's nothing going on there.

"The Clinic breaking News". User uncovers proof of Prince Charles suppling doping product to team GB with the complicit knowledge of Pat McQuaid by seeing it on TV shocker.

More breaking news after the next bout of TV watching, stay tuned!