Teams & Riders Team Visma - Lease a Bike

[Peyroteo94]

They can have the best team, they still will be destroyed by Pogi in RVV. Roubaix is another thing.

 

[Statze2]

They can have the best team, they still will be destroyed by Pogi in RVV. Roubaix is another thing.

Yes thats very likely. But they do their best to get with the best possible squad to the startline and try to beat Pogi. Even WvA and MvdP need a perfect day do beat Pogi on a bad day. But you compete in sports to win and if you stop trying then you can stop doing professionel sports in my opinion.
And I still believe that you can beat Pogi and UAE with team tactics, when your team is on point fit, willing and capable of the best. Try to isloate him, attack him, send good riders in the break, be active, give him a lot of situations where he needs do decide and then yes hope that he has a bad day or that he is making a bad decision. But try and try it again and don´t be afraid of loosing. In my opinion its better for Visma to try to win the monument then come in a second or third. Try it even if you help an opponent like MvdP, just try it and i´m sure there is a chance of winning. If you wait until Pogi can make his move then you won´t succeed.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes thats very likely. But they do their best to get with the best possible squad to the startline and try to beat Pogi. Even WvA and MvdP need a perfect day do beat Pogi on a bad day. But you compete in sports to win and if you stop trying then you can stop doing professionel sports in my opinion.
And I still believe that you can beat Pogi and UAE with team tactics, when your team is on point fit, willing and capable of the best. Try to isloate him, attack him, send good riders in the break, be active, give him a lot of situations where he needs do decide and then yes hope that he has a bad day or that he is making a bad decision. But try and try it again and don´t be afraid of loosing. In my opinion its better for Visma to try to win the monument then come in a second or third. Try it even if you help an opponent like MvdP, just try it and i´m sure there is a chance of winning. If you wait until Pogi can make his move then you won´t succeed.

Don't forget UAE classics team is also pretty insane. Visma will never beat them on tactics, they need WVA to beat Pogacar on sheer power, at least in MSR and RVV. In MSR, WVA can definetely follow Pogacar but in RVV he will be dropped like a stone after a hard tempo produced by the likes of Politt, Bjerg, Wellens, Veermesh, Rui Oliveira/Laengen and Morgado. This team is stellar too.

 

[Peter von]

Visma have not won a monument for four years, so they are due. I have my doubts about Jorgensen winning a monument, as he blows up in the last 50kms, as shown in Ronde and the World's

I reckon they have to wait at least until next edition of MSR .

idk about Jorgenson, he is still young and could still improve in the last 50 k.

But yeah Pogi, MVP and Remco are tough nuts to crack.

 

[Keldergoat]

Teunissen likely to be the last man to join the team for next year, he can ride the classics too.

And I miss Kooij in the equation. Already flagged that he'd love to ride PR next year and is could become a Philipsen style contender in both PR and MSR.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Wielerflits stat that Visma are the only world tour team to not place a rider in the top 10 of a monument this year. Looks to be correct.

 

[Oldermanish]

Visma have not won a monument for four years, so they are due. I have my doubts about Jorgensen winning a monument, as he blows up in the last 50kms, as shown in Ronde and the World's

To be fair he was working with his American teammate to at least make it a race. Everyone else made self serving jabs at retrieving Pogacar but mostly avoiding getting completely dropped out of the race.
But your point may be correct enough and, if Jonas comes along slowly; he'll be targeting the Tour. Or should be. He got all of their results this year except for Wout's silver medal.

 

[RedheadDane]

He got all of their results this year except for Wout's silver medal.

I'm inclined to disagree with that statement...

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Wielerflits stat that Visma are the only world tour team to not place a rider in the top 10 of a monument this year. Looks to be correct.

Have I started being their researcher without knowing it?

Only WT not to get a top ten in a monument this year was Visma.
Last year their worst Monument was LBL, in which they got 7th.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Have I started being their researcher without knowing it?

It would appear so, I somehow missed your post.

 

[RedheadDane]

It would appear so, I somehow missed your post.

TBF, the post AC linked to is in the Mental and Random Cycling Statistics thread.

 

[yaco]

Wielerflits stat that Visma are the only world tour team to not place a rider in the top 10 of a monument this year. Looks to be correct.

They have not won a monument for four years.

 

[Oldermanish]

I'm inclined to disagree with that statement...

I meant Matteo.....if he hadn't saved Jonas' bacon in the TourVindegaard would've been off the podium.

 

[RedheadDane]

I meant Matteo.....if he hadn't saved Jonas' bacon in the TourVindegaard would've been off the podium.

I know. I'm still inclined to disasgree with that statement.
Vingegaard won T-A without any help from Jorgenson. In fact, Jorgenson was a little busy over in France at the time; winning P-N.
Tratnik won Omloop.
Kooij got various wins, including a Giro stage.
Laporte won Paris-Tours
+ all the other lesser wins.

 

[CyclistAbi]

For sure the team took a massive hit, compared to the 2023 season, on where they where a dominant force in stage racing.

 

[Mlarsen]

Last year the team presentation of Team Visma | Lease a Bike happend on the 21th of december. I have not read anywhere about the date of this years team presentation ?! Do You have ? Its soon Christmas....so it must bee soon ? ..... or what ?

https://www.teamvismaleaseabike.com...presentation-of-team-visma-lease-a-bike-here/

Cheers
Michael, Denmark

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Might the folding of AGU, their kit manufacturer, have put back their presentation?

 

[RedheadDane]

Might the folding of AGU, their kit manufacturer, have put back their presentation?

I suppose they could always have had it without wearing kits...
After all, isn't the purpose of a team presentation to introduce the  riders?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I suppose they could always have had it without wearing kits...
After all, isn't the purpose of a team presentation to introduce the  riders?

No, it's about promoting the sponsors and keeping them happy.

 

[RedheadDane]

No, it's about promoting the sponsors and keeping them happy.

Then have the riders wear sponsor branded casual wear.
The big "promoting the cool new kit" thing is gonna be when they post the photos all over social media anyway.