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Jack (6 ch) said:
I agree, that was my first thought.

You have to hope Her Majesty's Press will see a story worth digging for here. Chance for someone to make a name for themsleves.

Bartoli couldn't of been on weight loss drugs.. I think we can all agree on that - to coin a phrase.
 
May 2, 2010
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sublimit said:
Bartoli couldn't of been on weight loss drugs.. I think we can all agree on that - to coin a phrase.

It's funny. She has always been pretty big for a tennis player, yet I think she's probably one of the fittest around. She usually plays 2 matches to the opponents one as she jumps up and down, practices her swings etc. in between every point.

Would have been much better PR from Bartoli's camp to come out and say something like - as a veteran of the sport and finally achieving my life's dream of winning a Grand Slam, I no longer feel the motivation of putting my body through the rigours of the tour, and want to retire at the pinnacle of my career etc. etc. etc.
 
Aug 17, 2013
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sniper said:
unfortunately the article isn't written very eloquently though[...]

It just doesn't lack eloquence, it lacks commons sense. Olympic testing is IQ testing: In other words, you have to be dumb to get caught. If you're an athlete wanting to compete in the Olympics then your PEDs intake is going to take place well in advance of the competition.

I don't doubt Nadal dopes. I can't prove it but I would be very surprised if he doesn't (out of this world endurance and the way he hits some shots is just... I don't know, at least, suspect).

There was a story in Marca a few years ago about his enriched plasma treatments, but WADA did not deem it as a doping practice so...
 
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Froomes_Cousin said:
I don't doubt Nadal dopes. I can't prove it but I would be very surprised if he doesn't (out of this world endurance and the way he hits some shots is just... I don't know, at least, suspect).

There was a story in Marca a few years ago about his enriched plasma treatments, but WADA did not deem it as a doping practice so...


IF the treatment is administered as recomended, then it is legal. If the treatment is used as a ruse to administer IGF1 to enhance strength and recovery, then it is NOT legal. There is a stong suspicion that the later is common (See Tiger Woods, Dr. Galea) among athletes.

Note that the IOC claimed in 2012 that a new test for HGH, IGF1 and IGF2 has been found. I suspect that the ruse of using "PRP" treatments will cease to be used by athletes.
 
Aug 17, 2013
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Andynonomous said:
IF the treatment is administered as recomended, then it is legal. If the treatment is used as a ruse to administer IGF1 to enhance strength and recovery, then it is NOT legal. There is a stong suspicion that the later is common (See Tiger Woods, Dr. Galea) among athletes.

Note that the IOC claimed in 2012 that a new test for HGH, IGF1 and IGF2 has been found. I suspect that the ruse of using "PRP" treatments will cease to be used by athletes.

He does have those "droopy" muscle bellies that GH users and abusers tend to have. His persistent knee problems remind me a lot of the bodybuilder's injuries back in the early 90s, when GH abuse was common amongst the top bodybuilders of the time: Huge muscle bellies and tendons/ligaments unable to support the added weight and strain, hence many had to retire due to tendon/ligament problems.

To me it looks/sounds like Nadal has been doing it for a while and can now only cycle the GH preparing for the Majors, otherwise his knee gives out.
 
Sudden Retirement

Good Article on Bartoli and shock retirement.

http://www.rue89.com/rue89-sport/2013/08/15/marion-bartoli-sarrete-bizarre-rafraichissant-244955

Rather than rest, she chose to take full advantage of the notoriety she had never had.
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Marion bartoli @bartoli_marion
RT:very excited too!Looks like the@newhavenopen is excited for @bartoli_marion to come to town.We can't blame them. pic.twitter.com/ITbOmws2jf
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Interesting in the interview that Bartoli says "if I have to retire"....it also points out how Bartoli has been milking the promotional tour and TV limelight and
To deprive a year of glory and the opening of the next Wimbledon.
 
Oct 16, 2010
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Interesting stuff cycle chic.
All neatly fits the idea that she,s been caught doping and forced to quit.
if journalism were at a decent level, this would have been a scandal in the making.
Now the story is probably just gonna fade out like candlelight.
a pity the WADA is not acting upon this.
 
Aug 16, 2012
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Nadal wins yet another event and continues his march back to #1. I'd love to know what he was doing during those 6 months off. His TUE list would be interesting reading.
 
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sniper said:
Interesting stuff cycle chic.
All neatly fits the idea that she,s been caught doping and forced to quit.
if journalism were at a decent level, this would have been a scandal in the making.
Now the story is probably just gonna fade out like candlelight.
a pity the WADA is not acting upon this.
If she had failed the IQ test of ITF, why have they ask her to retire for US Open?
If it was a failed test in Wimbledon, I doubt they would have waited so long to announce it.

As conspiracy theory, it would have been better to ask her to fake an injury in her first match, and then to quit.
 
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poupou said:
If she had failed the IQ test of ITF, why have they ask her to retire for US Open?
If it was a failed test in Wimbledon, I doubt they would have waited so long to announce it.

As conspiracy theory, it would have been better to ask her to fake an injury in her first match, and then to quit.

I agree that its difficult to find a motive for why ITF's would make bartoli retire immediately, (if that is what they did), rather than just shove the positive under the csrpet. But it does seem that that is what happened. Bartolis retirement raises too many questions.
And it seems to have happened before with hingis, and wih nadal according to some. How to explain such policies i dont know.
 
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Bicycle said:
Nadal wins yet another event and continues his march back to #1. I'd love to know what he was doing during those 6 months off. His TUE list would be interesting reading.

Obviously he was getting his knees fixed. It's an incredible achievement to win Masters titles in consecutive weeks on hard courts for someone who is supposedly close to being a cripple.
 
Cycle Chic said:
And since when has she ever had an injury ? never heard of her ever retiring from a match due to injury.

Re Bartoli - 2 mid-match retirements this year plus giving a walk over to an opponent, 2 last year, so does have a bit of an injury history.

Speaking of which I'm confused, Nadal, Djokavic and Murray are doping because they take injury breaks to load up on the good stuff, but Federer is doping because he doesn't get injured.

Different regimes or the Clinic having its cake and eating it?
 
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wansteadimp said:
Re Bartoli - 2 mid-match retirements this year plus giving a walk over to an opponent, 2 last year, so does have a bit of an injury history.

Speaking of which I'm confused, Nadal, Djokavic and Murray are doping because they take injury breaks to load up on the good stuff, but Federer is doping because he doesn't get injured.

Different regimes or the Clinic having its cake and eating it?

it'S a good point.
note though that djoko, murray and nadal appear to be on quite a different (much more extreme) juicing regime than federer.
federer is fit, but has never come close to the stamina and fitness of those three.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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sniper said:
it'S a good point.
note though that djoko, murray and nadal appear to be on quite a different (much more extreme) juicing regime than federer.
federer is fit, but has never come close to the stamina and fitness of those three.
and Fed played a game where he finished the points early. unlike other players his winners were not attempted then defended and returned to him. he would put it away and put the W in winner(s)
 
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sniper said:
I agree that its difficult to find a motive for why ITF's would make bartoli retire immediately, (if that is what they did), rather than just shove the positive under the csrpet. But it does seem that that is what happened. Bartolis retirement raises too many questions.
And it seems to have happened before with hingis, and wih nadal according to some. How to explain such policies i dont know.

Bartoli after her victory in Wimbledon has had many celebrations with press and partners. So her motive was high to continue explaining her ambition but when she came back on court she discovered that she would have to work again a lot. After losing 2 times against low opponents, reality is that qhe would probably never have another such great result, that was too much, she was not ready to do it again for nothing.So retirement was a good option.

If she had failed a doping test, she could have said she was injuried too or not be ready. To hide a positive case, there is a lot of more convenient way.
 
Bartoli

Well you could argue the same about Cilic - why would he have to suddenly withdraw from Wimbledon faking an injury if his positive wasn't going to be known until mid July?? Why didn't he finish the tournament if his positive wasn't leaked until over a month later ?...he failed in April in Munich.

“The ATP has always rigorously supported the Tennis Anti-Doping Program (TADP) and believes that the move toward the Athlete Biological Passport is the appropriate step for tennis at this time,” said ATP executive chairman and president Brad Drewett....In addition, the working group also recommended an overall increase in the amount of testing, especially outside competitions, with additional funding provided by all the governing bodies in tennis and administered by the ITF.

http://www.today.az/news/sports/120077.html

When would be a good time for Bartoli to have a forced retirement ? after New Haven and the US Open ? no - I think the ITF want the embarrassment gone and quick about it.
 
Retirements and re-emergeance

http://blog.lesoir.be/amortieetlob/...omme-henin-clijsters-williams-flipkens-nadal/

Yes, Bartoli dopait. As Henin, Clijsters, Williams, Flipkens Nadal ....Stunned because, as observers, I think there is a world of difference between the statements of last Monday ("I'm in a hurry to play the U.S. Open") and those of her press conference ("my body can do more ").

Good article - especially highlighting the sudden rise of Flipkens...and sudden retirements followed by dramatic success on their comeback.
 
Aug 16, 2012
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Bernie's eyesore said:
Obviously he was getting his knees fixed. It's an incredible achievement to win Masters titles in consecutive weeks on hard courts for someone who is supposedly close to being a cripple.

Getting his whole body fixed I would bet.
 
Aug 17, 2013
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Funny thing with all these dopers and WADA... if you were to hand over all the data to someone like Victor Conte... he could point out who IS doping, who is NOT, who to target, when and how immediately by looking at the before and after (bio-passports) and avoid having to waste and immense sum of money on wasteful testing.

The biggest hurdle for WADA is that the majority of tests draw blanks even with people they KNOW for a fact are doping. And to accomplish their goal they, sometimes, even have to resort to iffy "tactics" to get an athlete to concede. Take, for example, Alberto Contador. He was busted for 50 pictograms of clenbuterol. 50 pictograms of clenbuterol is not doping. Alberto chose not to take the case to the ordinary courts but, had he, he would've most likely won the case and forced WADA into including specific, scientifically-backed data, behind their contracts. And WADA, I suspect fearing that they were exposing themselves to a huge case, leaked the now famous story of the plasticizers. It was a clear case of intimidation, and Alberto lost because he wimped out, but he certainly had the ability to bring WADA to its knees.

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Novak's Secret :rolleyes:

by Paul Newman


http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Defa...1&PageLabel=22&EntityId=Ar02200&ViewMode=HTML

NOVAK’S SECRETS
No gluten — which is present in most foods — or dairy products
Limited sugar
Diet is based around vegetables, beans, white meat, fish, fruit, nuts, seeds, chickpeas, lentils and healthy oils
Buys organic food wherever possible and cooks almost every meal himself
On tours, tries to stay in hotels which will let him use their kitchen
Eats slowly and deliberately
Never watches TV or uses phone or computer while eating
 
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He seems to have started eating gluten again lately though.

I wonder if Hitch still thinks Nadal wont win US Open :p