Tennis

[Andynonomous]

Risk? In tennis?

Even if he tested positive the itf would cover it up and there's no tests to test positive to in the first place. Puerto showed major Spanish players were on full doping regimes in the mid 2000's, almost a decade has gone past and not one has fallen. The dominance of Spanish tennis continued, Nadal has made a mockery of WADA on his own.

Its tennis. The big names in tennis do what they want.

Agreed.

Tennis has recently DECREASED the amount of urine testing (from an already low level). They justify this decreased urine testing because they have increased blood testing.

Problem is, the increased blood testing is meant to obtain baselines for the recent introduction of blood passport in tennis, not to test for illegal substances directly.

Of course, we can't trust the tennis authorities to actually use the blood passport to target suspected dopers, because they have done little if any targeted testing up until this point. The blood passport is strictly being used as a public relations ploy, because of Armstrong's admission that he was doping all along, despite being tested much more often than tennis players get tested.


Of course, FIFA is even worse.

Guess which two international sports Spain is dominating ?

 

[blackcat]

Dmitrov has shown some talent (MUCH more than Murray, who like so many dopers, is just a human backboard that can retrieve all day). On the other hand, the explanation for any losses that are more than 2 months to the next "slam" is probably due to cycling down. The next slam is in late May (Roland Garros).

Nadal won his first tournament back after his back "injury" (Rio Open). It was a low level tournament, on his favorite surface(clay) against MUCH lower ranked players. He still struggled. On the other hand, at the US Open in 2010, and 2013, on his least favorite surface(fast hardcourt), against top level competition, he breezed through the whole tournaments without losing more than a set or two total for the two weeks. There was one year at Wimbledon that Nadal had his third highest serve speed of his seven matches in the quarter final, his second highest serve speed in the semi, and his highest serve speed in the final (can anyone say "testosterone patch").

Being able to peak for the biggest tournaments, over and over like this is an obvious sign of doping (Armstrong and the TDF ?). Both Murray and Nadal will be playing much better this summer. Nadal will win Roland Garros, and Murray has a shot at Wimbledon, and the USO. The win by Wawrinka in Australia was a one-time fluke.

dont think the serving speeds would be a patch.

He has gone thru periods of flattening out his serve, and not just spinning it in.

He might start a Slam slowly, to hold his reserves for the final week, not uncommon to see him lose a set or even two, and go to 5, in some non-clay Slams, in the early rnds v a player over 100 in rankings.

serving speed has more to do with a strategy/tactics, either for the individual, and the stage in match/game.

I know your point, he brought out his "effort" balls, late in the event. And he must have been pretty fresh to hit them. Yep, point taken, but I am not putting it up to great Tour de France level recovery doping and test patches on his nads.

 

[blackcat]

Risk? In tennis?

Even if he tested positive the itf would cover it up and there's no tests to test positive to in the first place. Puerto showed major Spanish players were on full doping regimes in the mid 2000's, almost a decade has gone past and not one has fallen. The dominance of Spanish tennis continued, Nadal has made a mockery of WADA on his own.

Its tennis. The big names in tennis do what they want.

and only a few have fallen foul. Rusedski, Korda, and American wayne odesnik who was quickly given the Armstrong and Omerta treatment by Andy Roddick.

two prodigies, who could never make the next step. Donald Young, Todd Reid. Tho the australian Reid, might have not been a prodigy, and was not held back by being 5'10" and 140lbs.

But that is the working thesis, tennis passed by a player of 5'10" and 140lbs in the 2000s. No more Michael Changs.

No more Muggsy Bogues. And Bogues as exception that proves the rule. (ok, Spud Webb and Nate Robinson)

 

[Andynonomous]

dont think the serving speeds would be a patch.

He has gone thru periods of flattening out his serve, and not just spinning it in.

He might start a Slam slowly, to hold his reserves for the final week, not uncommon to see him lose a set or even two, and go to 5, in some non-clay Slams, in the early rnds v a player over 100 in rankings.

serving speed has more to do with a strategy/tactics, either for the individual, and the stage in match/game.

I know your point, he brought out his "effort" balls, late in the event. And he must have been pretty fresh to hit them. Yep, point taken, but I am not putting it up to great Tour de France level recovery doping and test patches on his nads.

BS.

I don't know of any other players who's serve speeds vary from match to match like Nadal's. The only way I have ever seen a player's serve speed change dramatically was when they changed the speed gun to a different type, or change where in the flight of the ball, they measure the speed. When this happens, every players serve speed goes up at the same time.

Nadal is naturally right handed, yet holds the racket with his left hand. If you watch his serve, he looks like somebody who is doing something "unnatural". He has a bizarre corkscrew motion, up, and into the ball, like he is "muscling" the ball. In spite of this, he can serve as fast as one of the best servers of all time,(Sampras) at the USO ? There was tremendous puzzlement by expert onlookers (like McEnroe) when Nadal's serve speed jumped 10 mph at the 2010 USO.

When Nadal first came up his first serve speed averaged well below 110 mph. Yet recently he has managed to average over 120 mph at the two slams that serve speed helps the most (USO, Wimbledon). Players do not add 15 mph to their serve after they get to the pros.

If a player "changes tactics" and "flattens out" their serve, their serve percentage should drop dramatically. You don't serve one way for years while learning the game, then dramatically alter your technique half way through your big-league career. You will mess up your delivery.

Nadal's serve speed will remain low throughout the clay court season, then magically will rise for Wimbledon, and the USO, as it does every year.

I have no doubt that he is using testosterone patches in tournament at Wimbledon, and the USO (with higher doses in the second week where he would need them the most). He has no fear of getting caught, since they only play every other day. The testing is only done after the matches (never on off days). The testosterone only shows up on tests for 12 hours after administration.

 

[blackcat]

BS.

I don't know of any other players who's serve speeds vary from match to match like Nadal's. The only way I have ever seen a player's serve speed change dramatically was when they changed the speed gun to a different type, or change where in the flight of the ball, they measure the speed. When this happens, every players serve speed goes up at the same time.

Nadal is naturally right handed, yet holds the racket with his left hand. If you watch his serve, he looks like somebody who is doing something "unnatural". He has a bizarre corkscrew motion, up, and into the ball, like he is "muscling" the ball. In spite of this, he can serve as fast as one of the best servers of all time,(Sampras) at the USO ? There was tremendous puzzlement by expert onlookers (like McEnroe) when Nadal's serve speed jumped 10 mph at the 2010 USO.

When Nadal first came up his first serve speed averaged well below 110 mph. Yet recently he has managed to average over 120 mph at the two slams that serve speed helps the most (USO, Wimbledon). Players do not add 15 mph to their serve after they get to the pros.

If a player "changes tactics" and "flattens out" their serve, their serve percentage should drop dramatically. You don't serve one way for years while learning the game, then dramatically alter your technique half way through your big-league career. You will mess up your delivery.

Nadal's serve speed will remain low throughout the clay court season, then magically will rise for Wimbledon, and the USO, as it does every year.

I have no doubt that he is using testosterone patches in tournament at Wimbledon, and the USO (with higher doses in the second week where he would need them the most). He has no fear of getting caught, since they only play every other day. The testing is only done after the matches (never on off days). The testosterone only shows up on tests for 12 hours after administration.

ask Uncle Toni,

they go into different opponents with a different match strategy, and many periods of his career, he would spin it in at the speed of a mid-ranked female player.

 

[blackcat]

ask Uncle Toni,

they go into different opponents with a different match strategy, and many periods of his career, he would spin it in at the speed of a mid-ranked female player.

AndyNon

I have no doubt he uses all the doping under the sun. And testo for recovery.

maybe patches, maybe not, be we aint quibbling on the details.

But I dont reckon he adds power to his serve, because of testo recovery. That is my position.

the Australian with the world record in the serve, Sam Groth, ex-hubby of female pro Jardmilla gadjisova. or some such slovakian spelling, he has the record something ridiculous like 260km. Circus sid3show travelling freak circus speed. doped ofcourse, hard roids, but not some testo patches between events.

I dont think this is how Nadal can rip out a 210km serve when he is usually at 180.

The guy is a doper and a fraud, no doubt, whatever Uncle Toni's gameday strategy

 

[blackcat]

AndyNon

I have no doubt he uses all the doping under the sun. And testo for recovery.

maybe patches, maybe not, be we aint quibbling on the details.

But I dont reckon he adds power to his serve, because of testo recovery. That is my position.

the Australian with the world record in the serve, Sam Groth, ex-hubby of female pro Jardmilla gadjisova. or some such slovakian spelling, he has the record something ridiculous like 260km. Circus sid3show travelling freak circus speed. doped ofcourse, hard roids, but not some testo patches between events.

I dont think this is how Nadal can rip out a 210km serve when he is usually at 180.

The guy is a doper and a fraud, no doubt, whatever Uncle Toni's gameday strategy

he will serve slower on clay, because the rallies are where it is won. The service on the grass and fast court, is paramount.

so the tactics change.

 

[blackcat]

Definately disagree on the Murray not having talent early on, not that this prooves or disprooves doping, in 2005 when he first broke through as a teenager it was obvious he had talent, I remember discussions about him being a better prospect in British Tennis than Henman at the time

was a rival of Noavak Djokavic with equal talent early

 

[fuzzydunlop3]

so much importance in serving is being able to keep the returner off balance. similar to a baseball pitcher having multiple pitches to keep the batter guessing. which is why I don't buy the argument that Nadal is deliberately keeping his speed down and putting more spin on the ball as part of his strategy. If he had the faster speed flat serve at his disposal, he'd use it even as a means of keeping the returner off balance on occasion.

or maybe that speed is only there when he decides to "change grip" in an attempt to win the only major that eluded him.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Risk? In tennis?

Even if he tested positive the itf would cover it up and there's no tests to test positive to in the first place. Puerto showed major Spanish players were on full doping regimes in the mid 2000's, almost a decade has gone past and not one has fallen. The dominance of Spanish tennis continued, Nadal has made a mockery of WADA on his own.

Its tennis. The big names in tennis do what they want.

No risks? Try telling that to Cilic and Troicki. I didn't notice the ITF cover up those results! Murray has it made for life, when he retires he can expect a knighthood, a possible Question of Sport captaincy, maybe even his own daytime chatshow (Andrew Castle can't go on forever). Maybe he has decided that he doesn't want to risk all that, especially with Nadal now seemingly unbeatable and untouchable.

 

[blackcat]

so much importance in serving is being able to keep the returner off balance. similar to a baseball pitcher having multiple pitches to keep the batter guessing. which is why I don't buy the argument that Nadal is deliberately keeping his speed down and putting more spin on the ball as part of his strategy. If he had the faster speed flat serve at his disposal, he'd use it even as a means of keeping the returner off balance on occasion.

or maybe that speed is only there when he decides to "change grip" in an attempt to win the only major that eluded him.

it has a different advantage on different surfaces tho.

and even tho Richard Gasquet may have the best looking backhand in the game, and if it was one shot, it would be the best bh, because of his lassoo windup, he need preparation, and then he is a little off 100% preparation for the return of it.

tennis is tringulating your offensive shots with your defense preparation and defense footspeed, and getting prepped for the offensive game.

At this point, Nadal is primed to go past Sampras and Federer for the most Slams. I dont think he is switching up his serve cos of doping.

he is switching up his serve, cos he knows he can win any game from the back of the court in rallies. Some cheap points are good. Especially when you may have to last to the 7th round. the final that is. So cheap points, always good on the legs.

Because like i said about triangulating offense and defense, he also has to triangulate this round, with the tournament.

and he is one of the biggest dopers and frauds in all of sport. almost worse than Armstrong

 

[SundayRider]

Risk? In tennis?

Even if he tested positive the itf would cover it up and there's no tests to test positive to in the first place. Puerto showed major Spanish players were on full doping regimes in the mid 2000's, almost a decade has gone past and not one has fallen. The dominance of Spanish tennis continued, Nadal has made a mockery of WADA on his own.

Its tennis. The big names in tennis do what they want.

Murray will never ever get popped. First Briton to win Wimbledon in nigh on 80 years, no chance.

 

[SundayRider]

it has a different advantage on different surfaces tho.

and even tho Richard Gasquet may have the best looking backhand in the game, and if it was one shot, it would be the best bh, because of his lassoo windup, he need preparation, and then he is a little off 100% preparation for the return of it.

tennis is tringulating your offensive shots with your defense preparation and defense footspeed, and getting prepped for the offensive game.

At this point, Nadal is primed to go past Sampras and Federer for the most Slams. I dont think he is switching up his serve cos of doping.

he is switching up his serve, cos he knows he can win any game from the back of the court in rallies. Some cheap points are good. Especially when you may have to last to the 7th round. the final that is. So cheap points, always good on the legs.

Because like i said about triangulating offense and defense, he also has to triangulate this round, with the tournament.

and he is one of the biggest dopers and frauds in all of sport. almost worse than Armstrong

Somehow I don't think he will pass Federer slam record, don't know why just a feeling. I think his Slam victories will get much fewer and far between from now just like they did for Fed once he reached 27/28. He hasn't won Wimbledon since 2010, hasn't won Aussie Open since 2009 and is vulnerable to big hitters at USO and his RG record has to come to an end sometime.

 

[Andynonomous]

Somehow I don't think he will pass Federer slam record, don't know why just a feeling. I think his Slam victories will get much fewer and far between from now just like they did for Fed once he reached 27/28. He hasn't won Wimbledon since 2010, hasn't won Aussie Open since 2009 and is vulnerable to big hitters at USO and his RG record has to come to an end sometime.

I am glad that you have a "feeling" that Nadal won't break Federer's record. You are basing this "feeling", largely on the traditional deterioration of a clean tennis players performance as he ages. We have seen in cycling (Armstrong), and baseball (Bonds, Clemons, Randy Johnson, Ryan) that dope can extend an athletes performance well beyond what a clean athlete can do. Today's tennis has seen a dramatic increase in the average age of a slam winner. I strongly suspect that dope extended Andre Agassi's career well into his thirties.

Nadal is primarily a "defensive oriented" player, who should have had his best years before the age of 25 (Chang, Borg, Courier, Wilander), yet he is still very much competitive at 27 (will be 28 in a few months).

Just 6 months ago, Nadal won a slam (US open) on his least favorite surface (fast hard-court) with the loss of only 2 sets through the whole tournament. He just made the final of the last slam, losing because of an injury (or so he says). He will almost certainly win the next slam (Roland Garros). Then he will only be 3 behind Federer (who may be done winning slams himself).

Remember how much that narcissist Armstrong wanted the glory of being the "greatest ever", and how it drove him to do "whatever it takes". Nadal is no different.

The only things that can stop Nadal are a genuine long term injury (not the fake injuries he uses to get off the circuit, and cycle down) , or Novak Djokovic's doping doctors. Nadal and Djokovic are clearly in a doping arms race that Nadal is winning now.

I suspect that Nadal will win over 20 slams (average 2 a year for the next 4 years). He will not get caught by tennis's dope testing regime (which is designed to catch sloppy dopers only, and cover up popular dopers, like Agassi). Like Armstrong, Nadal will claim the "greatest ever" moniker. It will be just as big a fraud as it was with Armstrong, except Nadal will not get caught.

 

[blackcat]

I am glad that you have a "feeling" that Nadal won't break Federer's record. You are basing this "feeling", largely on the traditional deterioration of a clean tennis players performance as he ages. We have seen in cycling (Armstrong), and baseball (Bonds, Clemons, Randy Johnson, Ryan) that dope can extend an athletes performance well beyond what a clean athlete can do. Today's tennis has seen a dramatic increase in the average age of a slam winner. I strongly suspect that dope extended Andre Agassi's career well into his thirties.

Nadal is primarily a "defensive oriented" player, who should have had his best years before the age of 25 (Chang, Borg, Courier, Wilander), yet he is still very much competitive at 27 (will be 28 in a few months).

Just 6 months ago, Nadal won a slam (US open) on his least favorite surface (fast hard-court) with the loss of only 2 sets through the whole tournament. He just made the final of the last slam, losing because of an injury (or so he says). He will almost certainly win the next slam (Roland Garros). Then he will only be 3 behind Federer (who may be done winning slams himself).

Remember how much that narcissist Armstrong wanted the glory of being the "greatest ever", and how it drove him to do "whatever it takes". Nadal is no different.

The only things that can stop Nadal are a genuine long term injury (not the fake injuries he uses to get off the circuit, and cycle down) , or Novak Djokovic's doping doctors. Nadal and Djokovic are clearly in a doping arms race that Nadal is winning now.

I suspect that Nadal will win over 20 slams (average 2 a year for the next 4 years). He will not get caught by tennis's dope testing regime (which is designed to catch sloppy dopers only, and cover up popular dopers, like Agassi). Like Armstrong, Nadal will claim the "greatest ever" moniker. It will be just as big a fraud as it was with Armstrong, except Nadal will not get caught.

Nadal Fed Djoka Murrary.

They have the best defense in the game. But their true talent is turning defense into offense with one or two strokes, and getting a rally back on their terms.

playing on clay is unique. but they can still defend there. my response is kinda generic, kinda more the hardcourt variety where the majority of games are player on the atp circuit

 

[blackcat]

Nadal Fed Djoka Murrary.

They have the best defense in the game. But their true talent is turning defense into offense with one or two strokes, and getting a rally back on their terms.

playing on clay is unique. but they can still defend there. my response is kinda generic, kinda more the hardcourt variety where the majority of games are player on the atp circuit

Andynonymous enter into evidence Chris Horner at 40 winning a GT.

Gives hope to all the geriatrics hoping to win a GT.

apart from him, the oldest riders to ride pros were Jens, Ogrady, Dmitry Konychev, all rode to 40 in the last decade.

Chris just blew them outta the water. respect Chris. but gees, those androgens are making your head grown like out of the sitcom coneheads.

 

[SundayRider]

I am glad that you have a "feeling" that Nadal won't break Federer's record. You are basing this "feeling", largely on the traditional deterioration of a clean tennis players performance as he ages. We have seen in cycling (Armstrong), and baseball (Bonds, Clemons, Randy Johnson, Ryan) that dope can extend an athletes performance well beyond what a clean athlete can do. Today's tennis has seen a dramatic increase in the average age of a slam winner. I strongly suspect that dope extended Andre Agassi's career well into his thirties.

Nadal is primarily a "defensive oriented" player, who should have had his best years before the age of 25 (Chang, Borg, Courier, Wilander), yet he is still very much competitive at 27 (will be 28 in a few months).

Just 6 months ago, Nadal won a slam (US open) on his least favorite surface (fast hard-court) with the loss of only 2 sets through the whole tournament. He just made the final of the last slam, losing because of an injury (or so he says). He will almost certainly win the next slam (Roland Garros). Then he will only be 3 behind Federer (who may be done winning slams himself).

Remember how much that narcissist Armstrong wanted the glory of being the "greatest ever", and how it drove him to do "whatever it takes". Nadal is no different.

The only things that can stop Nadal are a genuine long term injury (not the fake injuries he uses to get off the circuit, and cycle down) , or Novak Djokovic's doping doctors. Nadal and Djokovic are clearly in a doping arms race that Nadal is winning now.

I suspect that Nadal will win over 20 slams (average 2 a year for the next 4 years). He will not get caught by tennis's dope testing regime (which is designed to catch sloppy dopers only, and cover up popular dopers, like Agassi). Like Armstrong, Nadal will claim the "greatest ever" moniker. It will be just as big a fraud as it was with Armstrong, except Nadal will not get caught.

Yes it is just a hunch. I just don't think Nadal can keep cycling down/back up again and get to that level every time, for many more years.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Yes it is just a hunch. I just don't think Nadal can keep cycling down/back up again and get to that level every time, for many more years.

Unless Nadal wants to have a cardiovascular event in his mid 40's.

I usually think the extension of a career thing applies to players who start doping in their mid 20's.

I don't think there are many examples of players who started hormonal doping at around 16 and kept going until their mid 30's.

Lance springs to mind but I think he was a conservative doper when it came to hormone use but an aggressive doper with EPO/blood transfusions/stimulants.

 

[SundayRider]

Unless Nadal wants to have a cardiovascular event in his mid 40's.

I usually think the extension of a career thing applies to players who start doping in their mid 20's.

I don't think there are many examples of players who started hormonal doping at around 16 and kept going until their mid 30's.

Lance springs to mind but I think he was a conservative doper when it came to hormone use but an aggressive doper with EPO/blood transfusions/stimulants.

Yeah Nadal obviously started young, look at his arms aged 18 not just the size but the shape and how 'unnatural' looking they were.

 

[blackcat]

I think Nadal might go the way of Tiger, not wrt wh0res, but his white tissue, the tendons and ligaments will just say "no get farked rafe" and betray him.

There must be a use-by-date on doping to such a level in an endurance and strength sport, in that amalgam discipline. like a decathlete. You cant go for 15 yrs at 100% doping, without your tendons and ligaments giving up the ghost.

 

[zebedee]

I strongly suspect that dope extended Andre Agassi's career well into his thirties.

Almost a given, I'd say. Five of his eight grand slam titles were won after the age of 29, his last when he was nearly 33. This is without precedent in tennis.

By comparison, Sampras won one of his fifteen GS titles after the age of 29, Lendl one of ten at age 29.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Almost a given, I'd say. Five of his eight grand slam titles were won after the age of 29, his last when he was nearly 33. This is without precedent in tennis.

By comparison, Sampras won one of his fifteen GS titles after the age of 29, Lendl one of ten at age 29.

I believe Agassi started doping seriously (I think he might have used stimulants and sleeping pills) when he started working with Gil Reyes at the age of 22.

Whilst he did manage to win those grand slams his body was breaking down and he was very weak in longer matches towards the end.

If Nadal did start doping around 16-17 that's quite a few extra miles on his body.

 

[the sceptic]

Anyone else think Wawrinka will do a Djokovic?

Juice up to the max for 1 year and blow everyone off court with Nadal-esque fitness.

All I know is that im gonna put some money on him. he is about 19/1 for all the remaning slams.

 

[bewildered]

what makes you think Wawrinka would blow anyone off the court with his fitness? He hasn't shown a level of fitness that would indicate doping imo. He has significantly improved his fitness (he was unfit and unfocused earlier in his career but always had the ability) but not to a suspect level. Certainly nothing suspect like Nadal/Murray/Djokovic have shown in previous years. Wawrinka (or anyone else) winning a slam has more to do with the lack of form/injury of Djokovic, Nadal, Fed and Murray (all at the same time for once) than anything else.

I wouldn't back Wawa for Wimbledon, his record on grass is v poor. Clay is his best surface and he should go far in FO, esp if he can hold onto his ranking til then. But I can't see anyone beating Nadal on clay.

Also note for Wimbledon, the current UK tax laws mean that any top player will more than likely end up out of pocket unless he/she wins Wimbledon and the further he/she goes without winning it, the more out of pocket they will be. That law might change before this year's comp but it was a factor in so many big names going out 'unexpectedly' last year imo. A big player with large endorsement contracts would be better off going out in the first round than getting to the second week of Wimbledon. So if you have little chance of winning it, why hang around? I think a lot of the bigger players will have that attitude again this year if the tax law remains.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...n-tax-work-for-sporting-events-in-the-UK.html

I think Camila Giorgi is suspect. Only weighs about 120 lbs but hits the ball with amazing power, looks like she could be on a program. Tends to play at a very high level in big events against big players but can't seem to command a ranking that gets her automatic qualification to these events. her (and her father in particular) have racked up hundreds of thousands in debts from investors who funded her touring earlier in her career but who she hasn't repaid despite having made $700k+ in her career. Seem like the type of people who are money hungry and willing to do whatever it takes to get it.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/news/20140110/camila-giorgi/

Also have to LOL at the form of Errani (and Vinci) this year. Errani is probably the most suspect of all players over the last 2 years. Vinci, perhaps not as much but seeing as they are doubles partners I'd say if one was at it, so was the other. Amazing that as soon as Del Moral is banned and removed from the Valencia clinic, Errani's form takes an almost immediate nosedive.

 

[sniper]

Henman reassures that doping is not significant in tennis.

"It's a very physically demanding sport but I still classify it as a skill sport. If you've got a very bad backhand, it doesn't matter what you're going to take, it's not going to get better," the four-times Wimbledon semi-finalist said.

"When you see what's happened in cycling, for example, it's a catastrophe for the sport. We've got to make sure that isn't going to happen in tennis and I don't think it will. I don't think there's a culture of drug-taking," said Henman.

Henman said tennis was different: "I can't honestly say I've looked at any or many players and said: 'are they taking performance enhancing drugs?'," he said.

"When you understand and play the sport and you see them hitting the shots, you've got to be a great player. That's where I was always grateful to be in a sport like that.

"I think I would have found it very difficult if I was involved in a sport where I was always looking at competitors and being sceptical, if there were people testing positive on a continuous basis."

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs...ificant-tennis-says-tim-henman-150458744.html

always good to hear from an insider. they know what they're talking about.