Tennis

[blackcat]

aggressive player, and whether doping plays any role in provoking **** itches.

its called roid rage. not a clinical phenomenon, because they cant really research it.

but these athletes got so many hormones coursing thru their veins, it is it any wonder that it changes their brain chemistry too?

 

[blackcat]

Yeah and no, I think Courier was done as a top player by 25. Or maybe the rest stepped up?

just prematurely burnt out. What is Ferrer the Spaniard? 33? Hewitt's age? wtf!

Courier had the attrition game. nock you into the court and next night.

Courier had a very short career at the top (I think he won all of his grand slams within 2 years). Doesn't mean he didn't use anything, but he didn't have an extended career, like some ped users do.

attrition game. he did have a degree of talent, but p'raps like Hewitt, he overperformed, won his Slams, there were more on the horizon and potential Slams to come, think about after Sampras, there was a lull. Agassi took advantage of the depth, lack of it. Rafter? he was not that talent. He might have been serve and volley, cos he was, but he still played the "attrition game. be better "prepared". fitter, stronger, like nadal. but a different game foundation. anyone thru the 90s who started the Armstrong "fitter, harder worker line" was the BS. Muster, Courier, and Rafter all used this justification.

I don't see it in Courier as much but Muster was a little bull that could bang away on clay all day. Remember too that Muster was involved in a horrific accident where he was fortunate just to live and no one expected him to play but he did have a strong desire to prove others wrong. He was a determined SOB. A couple years ago at age 42, he tried to make a come back and couldn't even win a round or two on the Challenger circuit (the minor leagues), makes Horner's Vuelta all that more special Ha !

Muster was a bull. but that does not me, that Courier, and Rafter, were not doing the same thing. The same attrition game, of nocking your opponenent off the court into the next day. This is the Uncle Toni strategy adoption schema. Where did he get it from?

 

[robow7]

Courier mentally burned out, towards the end of his shorter than expected career, he could be seen reading a book at change overs.

 

[Froomster]

Courier mentally burned out, towards the end of his shorter than expected career, he could be seen reading a book at change overs.

When I read this I thought, that's got to be a joke, but....

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/19/sports/19iht-ten_7.html

What's most hilarious is what he was reading:

"Maybe the Moon" was released in paperback in 1993, and the New York Times Book Review summarizes the plot as follows: "Hollywood can be a cruel place, especially for Cady Roth, an overweight dwarf who longs to escape her stereotyped role in a famous film."

 

[The Hitch]

I do have to give "Men's Tennis Forums" some credit.

They have been allowing threads and comments that were not allowed a year ago. Examples :

Sergio Giorgi: ''Doping in tennis exists. Controls are worthless''

If one of your favorite players got caught doping, how would you react?

2014 Tennis Anti-Doping Programme tests by player & testing summary

Doping in Tennis: Fan's Impressions



None of this would have happened without Armstrong's admission. People have become more cynical of athlete's performances in all sports, and the desire of the sports authorities to stop the cheats.

Those don't make for good reading. None of those guys actually understands that players dope. Its like reading cycling fans 10 years ago or like reading Sky fans today.

 

[thrawn]

Those don't make for good reading. None of those guys actually understands that players dope. Its like reading cycling fans 10 years ago or like reading Sky fans today.

Well I've only looked at the Giorgi thread, and quite a few posters seemed to think doping existed, and that his daughter dopes.

 

[Froomster]

starting to look more and more like mike tyson

Next sponsor: Schick. That 5-o'clock shadow can be a real bummer.

Seriously, Bruce Jenner's "transformation" is an international story, but TMZ don't care who Serena's next barber will be?

 

[Froomster]

When women have more muscles than men (in fact, more than the average male body-builder), then you just put it down to "unusual genetics".

Nothing to see, folks, move along please.

 

[Ticker]

When women have more muscles than men (in fact, more than the average male body-builder), then you just put it down to "unusual genetics".

Nothing to see, folks, move along please.

 

[blackcat]

Sammy f'n Sosa for the win

Sammy Stosur ftw

where is the strikethru coding on this sh!tty forum software. how about an upgrade.



its gotta be CJC1295

these new peptides are the bomb

 

[robow7]

I've seen similar shots of Slammin' Sammy but that seems over the top. I wonder if that has been photo chopped somewhat, because that is just Frickin unbelievable, and who can turn their head on that one if real.

As to Courier, I could never tell if he really was brighter and better educated than most of the tennis robots or was that just the image he tried to project. Becker attempted similar but major fail.

 

[Ticker]

I've seen similar shots of Slammin' Sammy but that seems over the top. I wonder if that has been photo chopped somewhat, because that is just Frickin unbelievable, and who can turn their head on that one if real.

As to Courier, I could never tell if he really was brighter and better educated than most of the tennis robots or was that just the image he tried to project. Becker attempted similar but major fail.

Nice collection from Getty: http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/search/2/image?phrase=sam%20stosur

 

[blackcat]

Nice collection from Getty: http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/search/2/image?phrase=sam%20stosur

probably about 17/18 here

no cjc

 

[blackcat]

I've seen similar shots of Slammin' Sammy but that seems over the top. I wonder if that has been photo chopped somewhat, because that is just Frickin unbelievable, and who can turn their head on that one if real.

As to Courier, I could never tell if he really was brighter and better educated than most of the tennis robots or was that just the image he tried to project. Becker attempted similar but major fail.

brighter, but still not a genius. no cum laude from Austin-Texas uni

 

[70kmph]

Looks like testosterone treatments to build muscle and endurance

 

[sniper]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but this 2014 Stosur injury story doesn't ring very plausible to me.
So she suffers a plantar fascia injury (which is not uncommon), but still manages to win two tournaments?

?So because I could play on it to some extent and I could take anti-inflammatories, I thought ?OK we?ll keep going?. I wasn?t going to miss the US Open so it was kind of one of those weigh-ups ? try and get through this important period and then we?ll see where we are after that.

?I think long term as the weeks built up it certainly started to affect me more and more but to then go to Osaka and win the tournament ? and the (good) week in Beijing ? it was obviously a huge improvement on where I?d been.?

http://www.samstosur.com/news/foot-injury-ends-sams-season/

 

[miguelsol]

Will Serena ever be outed?

 

[sniper]

remember how ambitious her father was.
when serena and venus were like 11 and 12 he was already screaming from the rooftops that his daughters would come to dominate women's tennis.
I think both serena and venus got drugged from a very early age onwards.

They are real cash cows for many people, so small chance they're gonna get outed any time soon.

 

[sniper]

it really is remarkable though how credulous the western press is when it comes to Anglophones.

just imagine for a second a similarly muscular player from Russia or China dominating the women's game from a young age onwards.
I think there'd be a whole lot of eyebrow raising in the western press.

 

[miguelsol]

Yeah, I feel most people in the WTA world are afraid to even openly talk about the possibility of doping by higher ranked players. I'm starting to think this is the way it is, and no one will ever dare to step up and expose these dopers.

 

[robow7]

Nice collection from Getty: http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/search/2/image?phrase=sam%20stosur

Hell, nothing to see here people, now let's move along

 

[blackcat]

it really is remarkable though how credulous the western press is when it comes to Anglophones.

just imagine for a second a similarly muscular player from Russia or China dominating the women's game from a young age onwards.
I think there'd be a whole lot of eyebrow raising in the western press.

in Australia, there have been a few Balkan and central Europe "fathers". They always get a bad run, but the world number 1 Lleyton Hewitt's father, never got a run. Neither did other world number 1 father, Agassi pere.

Not Mary Pierce'father Jim Pierce "Mary kill the b!tch".

nor Tiger Woods pere.


institutional racism.

how quick they were to forget about Agassi's persian lineage

 

[blackcat]

Hell, nothing to see here people, now let's move along

 

[blackcat]

your syllogism fails when Mr Malone was doping but the NBA never had any positive!

Will Serena ever be outed?

 

[zebedee]

A pretty devastating opinion on tennis from an anti-doping expert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yHYSkNwaQ0