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actually,that is not the case.
on hard court they run all day, on clay they run all day.
we can say they are ALL doping, but these two, they never would have won versus Martina, Steffi, or even Chris Evert. Now, you can say they were doping too, mebbe, I reckon pushed by her father, Steffi surely, but Martina and those male forearms, surely roided.
But they did have a degree of talent no one else did in their era. So, in this respect, Serena, for all her fathers errors, and Richard Williams was one of the worst sporting parents of all time, no doubt he doped his kids, so who can blame Serena, well... Serena always had talent and ability. It is sad her transformation like those GDR female athletes when their testosterone supplementation meant they had transitioned to both the male physical and psychological identity. Serena has also had aweful blowups in the past years, she threatened a female line judge saying she would shove "this" ball down your throat and gut you like a pig. pretty violent act to an umpire, it should have got her months out, then a dialogue with the public (not involving Serena) about PEDs and like Savulescu says, legalising them, and providing a medical supervision. But no, will never happen, one cannot appreciate all the succour moms out there are actually enabling it with the head-in-sand view, like alpe73 would say.
bewildered said:i don't see dilated pupils in those pics. Can you post a pic of his 'normal' size pupils to compare? It's called keeping your eye on the ball.
My point is whether they are on roids or not, there is nothing different in them physically or in terms of how they have played in this tourney. They have been playing like that for years. They may be doped but there is no performance change in this tourney. They are both well beatable players, just got lucky with draws and in Vinci's case with Serena having an absolute shocker. Bartoli the same, didn't have to beat a top 15 player to win Wimbledon.
Serena's performances are more suspicious to me in terms of how little power she seemed to have against Vinci compared to normally. Vinci is not a strong, tall, or fast player, Serena should blow her off the court. She shouldn't be broken once by a player like Vinci. It's all down to her as to whether that happens or not.
actually,that is not the case.
on hard court they run all day, on clay they run all day.
we can say they are ALL doping, but these two, they never would have won versus Martina, Steffi, or even Chris Evert. Now, you can say they were doping too, mebbe, I reckon pushed by her father, Steffi surely, but Martina and those male forearms, surely roided.
But they did have a degree of talent no one else did in their era. So, in this respect, Serena, for all her fathers errors, and Richard Williams was one of the worst sporting parents of all time, no doubt he doped his kids, so who can blame Serena, well... Serena always had talent and ability. It is sad her transformation like those GDR female athletes when their testosterone supplementation meant they had transitioned to both the male physical and psychological identity. Serena has also had aweful blowups in the past years, she threatened a female line judge saying she would shove "this" ball down your throat and gut you like a pig. pretty violent act to an umpire, it should have got her months out, then a dialogue with the public (not involving Serena) about PEDs and like Savulescu says, legalising them, and providing a medical supervision. But no, will never happen, one cannot appreciate all the succour moms out there are actually enabling it with the head-in-sand view, like alpe73 would say.