The 2016 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

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I must say we have pretty similar teams skidmark, I was considering Grosu (maybe you remember), Kudus and Tony Martin quite heavily as well. However, the only one from your team that I would really like to have is Cancellara. I have had lots of luck with the early scorers like McCarthy, Dayer and Bennett which you don't have. If these keep coming later on as well (a long shot I know) I might not regret missing Cance too much.
 
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Last week was decent especially Ruta del Sol with Van Garderen and Kelderman.

Tour Cycliste International La Provence
PERAUD Jean Christophe
DE MARCHI Alessandro
PHINNEY Taylor
CONTRERAS PINZON Rodrigo
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando

Gaviria for the sprints and the others to do something on the first stage

Tour de Langkawi
LÓPEZ MORENO Miguel Ángel

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
DEMARE Arnaud
MARTIN Tony

What will Der Pantzerwagen do?

Classic Sud Ardèche - Souvenir Francis Delpech
BARGUIL Warren (I suppose he won't ride)
YATES Adam
MEZGEC Luka
PERAUD Jean Christophe
DEGAND Thomas

What will Adam do in his first race?

Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne
DEMARE Arnaud

La Drome Classic
BARGUIL Warren
YATES Adam
MEZGEC Luka
CONTRERAS PINZON Rodrigo
DEGAND Thomas

Gran Premio Città di Lugano
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi
 
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Update #6 - del doubles up, podium remains unchanged in busy week

The four winners of this week's stage races weren't the most popular picks (nobody had Valverde, 5 have Thomas, 18 have Nibali and 25 have Vichot), so this week's winner was going to be the team that had the best combo of them and other high scorers. Obviously Nibali would be key with the HC points, but this game is all about having the best team put together.

This week's top scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 del1962 596
2 Maaaaaaaarten 488
3 Popchu 469
4 Skibby the bush kangaroo 468
5 asdfgh101 463

del1962 pulled away from the pack this week, with an impressive combo of Nibali, Vichot, Van Garderen, buffered by Kudus, Kittel and Tony Martin. Maaaaaaaaarten (no relation to Tony) picks up second place with a similar combo minus Vichot, but plus Cancellara and Lopez getting a few points. This Nibali-Van Garderen combo is a common thread among the top 5 teams. There weren't any real unique picks shaping the leaderboard this week with Nibali scoring so many points; LaFlorecita getting points from Contador in 9th is maybe the only example of this in the top 10.

This week's high movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 del1962 (+56)
2 Maaaaaaaarten (+53)
3 Skibby the bush kangaroo (+45)
4 Popchu (+43)
5 DB Coop (+40)

This list is very similar to the previous one, with the addition of DB Coop, who was 14th in weekly points but was in a place on the table where their team was able to move up quite a bit. Similar team construction for this team as well, with Nibali and Van Garderen.

Green Jersey competition

Rank Team Total
1 karaev 70
2 Hugo87 59
3 togo95 58
4 comodoro 53
5 asdfgh101 52

Not a ton of change here as karaev remains on top and the top 4 are stagnant; asdfgh101 moves into the top 5 with their second scoring week, after getting 30 points for third place a couple of weeks ago.

Polka Dot Jersey competition

Rank Team Points
1 Schleckamagurky 32
2 MADRAZO 26
3 del1962 25
3 ironted 25
3 karaev 25
3 freshman 25
3 Team_X 25

As I said last week introducing this competition, it will probably take a bit of time to shake out because by nature if you move up a lot one week, it'll take a bit of falling back down again before you can get weekly points for moving up again. We'll keep an eye on this one, but for now a sole weekly win will still get you tied for 3rd place.

Top 10 overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (-) karaev 2115
2 (-) togo95 2066
3 (-) Nicosix 2053
4 (+8) asdfgh101 1985
5 (-1) Ferminal 1966
6 (-) Hugo87 1957
7 (+1) shalgo 1954
8 (+6) skidmark 1942
9 (-2) StephenC2020 1909
10 (+9) trackstand 1904

The podium holds steady this week, although 3rd place had more points than second this week, and both had more points than karaev in first, so it has tightened up. Some new entries in the top 10 with asdfgh101 leaping a big 8 spots to 4th, yours truly jumping into 8th, and trackstand getting a big week from Nibali to propel their team into 10th. Falze, yoyokt and will10 fall out of the top 10. All in all, despite a lot of action on the roads this week, this was more of a 'positioning' week in this game than a 'shakeup' week. We all know that this week coming up holds Het Volk/Niewsblad, which in many ways signifies that things are REALLY getting underway. The points are gonna start flying.

Spreadsheet at dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9phjjdq22uc6y4u/CQ%202016%20update%206.xlsx?dl=0

(note: I made a dumb mistake where I updated last week's file and pressed 'save' instead of changing the file name first, so I think last week's link to update 5 will link to this current one. If you'd like a copy of week 5 for posterity let me know and I'll put it up, but I saved over my only copy so it'd take a few minutes work.)
 
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LaFlorecita said:
9th on the week and +38 :) third good week in a row but still no mention :p

What, do I need to bold it for you? :p

This week's top scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 del1962 596
2 Maaaaaaaarten 488
3 Popchu 469
4 Skibby the bush kangaroo 468
5 asdfgh101 463

del1962 pulled away from the pack this week, with an impressive combo of Nibali, Vichot, Van Garderen, buffered by Kudus, Kittel and Tony Martin. Maaaaaaaaarten (no relation to Tony) picks up second place with a similar combo minus Vichot, but plus Cancellara and Lopez getting a few points. This Nibali-Van Garderen combo is a common thread among the top 5 teams. There weren't any real unique picks shaping the leaderboard this week with Nibali scoring so many points; LaFlorecita getting points from Contador in 9th is maybe the only example of this in the top 10.
 
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Gigs_98 said:
2nd to last this week, ouch :(

You've had some bad luck with setbacks to Kwiat and Landa... once they get going I'm sure you'll be humming. That's the thing about expensive picks, you live and die by them. Think of the weekly updates after the Ardennes, Giro and Vuelta, and I'm sure you have lots to look forward to.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
9th on the week and +38 :) third good week in a row but still no mention :p

I would love to sneak into the top 10 overall without ever being mentioned. Zubeldia style.
 
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skidmark said:
What, do I need to bold it for you? :p

This week's top scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 del1962 596
2 Maaaaaaaarten 488
3 Popchu 469
4 Skibby the bush kangaroo 468
5 asdfgh101 463

del1962 pulled away from the pack this week, with an impressive combo of Nibali, Vichot, Van Garderen, buffered by Kudus, Kittel and Tony Martin. Maaaaaaaaarten (no relation to Tony) picks up second place with a similar combo minus Vichot, but plus Cancellara and Lopez getting a few points. This Nibali-Van Garderen combo is a common thread among the top 5 teams. There weren't any real unique picks shaping the leaderboard this week with Nibali scoring so many points; LaFlorecita getting points from Contador in 9th is maybe the only example of this in the top 10.
:eek: sorry :( :)
 
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Here's me for this week:

Provence

Craddock
Talansky
Gaviria
Phinney

Well the latter 3 are already over 7 minutes behind, but I didn't expect anything of Phinney in this hilly first race, and Talansky's gravy train is doing well in WT events so I'll save my panic. Gaviria could still take either of the last two easier stages, and Craddock is 11th overall although effectively tied for 7th so if he gets a couple of seconds he could pick up some points. Sidenote - this race looks like a good addition to the calendar, I like it.

Langkawi

Lopez
Goss

I've already said I think Lopez is primed to be a world-destroyer, like Nairo-level, so I expect nothing less than top 5. Goss has said he's targeting this race, so I expect nothing better than about 10th place in every stage.

Het Niewsblad

Tony Martin
Demare
Enger
Cort
Stuyven
Chavanel
Petit
Grosu

8 guys here. Let's separate them a bit:

Proven contenders - Demare, Chavanel. These guys can go on cobbles. Although I looked at Chavanel's record, and he's done Het Volk every year since 2008, finished 7th once, and between 17th-36th every other time. That's consistent but I'd love the higher end. Demare has finished 10th both the last two years, his only participations.

Unproven contenders - Martin, Stuyven. Yes Tony Martin is going for the cobbles this year after winning a pretty easy-going cobbles stage in the TdF last year. I guess if Etixx thinks he can do it, who am I to question, and he's got the power to hold off a group if he attacks and gets space. Stuyven I kind of feel like has been bubbling under for awhile, and I've got a bit of the same feeling about him this classics season as I did with Vanmarcke on my team in 2012. And of course Vanmarcke took Het Volk that year. So we shall see.

Question marks - Grosu, Cort, Enger, Petit. I'm convinced Cort is made for these kinds of races but I haven't really seen it yet. If he can be part of a small group he's got a good finishing kick, and with only really Keukeleire as a classics contender (I mean, Hayman but more of a road captain) on the team, he should have free rein. Can Grosu go on cobbles? No idea, but if he can he's fast. Enger? Same deal. Petit, I don't think this is his thing, but I'd be happy to be wrong.

Sud Ardeche & La Drome

Vichot
Martinez

Let the Vichot train keep rolling! Both of these look like they could be his kind of race, and in fact he won the first one five years ago. And is Martinez going to do anything this spring? I dunno!

Lugano

Kudus
Kamna

Hey, Ivan Basso won this one year, so why not an attacking climber like Kudus? Kamna's 19 in his first race on a pro team. I would be thrilled if he made it to the finish line.

KBK

Same as Het Volk but without Tony Martin and Chavanel, both of whom aren't suited to this anyway. Should be better for Enger and Grosu (not as hard cobbles), worse for Cort (if Ewan makes it to the end they'll sprint for him) and Stuyven (same with Nizzolo). Petit will likely sprint for Direct Energie with the injury to Coquard, and Demare would sprint anyway. All in all, some fast guys here! If it goes well I could get some real points.
 
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I've never done one of these before but, her goes, what the class clown at the foot of the table has to look forward to this week.

Langkwai - Pacioni

Provence - Bohli
Restrepo
Contreras
Gesbert

Sud Ardeche - Yates bros
Pellaud
Bardet

Lugano - Cattaneo
Arreger

La Drome - Bardet
Yates bros
Contreras
Pellaud

Omloop - Sagan (Juraj) :)
Fenn

KBK - Sagan (J)
Fenn
Politt
Bohli
Ewan

Mostly hit and hope types but perhaps the Yates Bros, Bardet and Ewan can add a few points. Still smarting from the Landa/Kwiat setbacks....like my fellow class clown upthread.
 
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Davide Martinelli just got his first win of the season. Just 20 points but still nice to see him delivering to his potential!
 
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Jancouver said:
Davide Martinelli just got his first win of the season. Just 20 points but still nice to see him delivering to his potential!

Gaviria is being a bad teammate for my CQ team. #nogifts! :mad: :D

CQ game aside though, I do appreciate what he did. I like Martinelli too, nice to see him get his first win.

And in other news, Goss is continuing his no-show this season in Langkawi. Why, oh, why did I pick him? I was determined to stay away from recurring hopeless cases, yet I still somehow ended up with Farrar, Betancur and Goss...
 
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Squire said:
Jancouver said:
Davide Martinelli just got his first win of the season. Just 20 points but still nice to see him delivering to his potential!

Gaviria is being a bad teammate for my CQ team. #nogifts! :mad: :D

CQ game aside though, I do appreciate what he did. I like Martinelli too, nice to see him get his first win.

And in other news, Goss is continuing his no-show this season in Langkawi. Why, oh, why did I pick him? I was determined to stay away from recurring hopeless cases, yet I still somehow ended up with Farrar, Betancur and Goss...

Because he was only 10 points! In my mind I was thinking, surely he'll up in the sprints somewhere. He just signed on to a new team!
 
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Next year! Next year will be Goss' year! Next year he will improve! Or at least equal his 0 points....

I'd still pick him, as him scoring 100+ points will be more satisfying than a rookie whom I expected to score as much. Than again... I picked Andy till he retired...
 
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Jspear said:
Squire said:
Jancouver said:
Davide Martinelli just got his first win of the season. Just 20 points but still nice to see him delivering to his potential!

Gaviria is being a bad teammate for my CQ team. #nogifts! :mad: :D

CQ game aside though, I do appreciate what he did. I like Martinelli too, nice to see him get his first win.

And in other news, Goss is continuing his no-show this season in Langkawi. Why, oh, why did I pick him? I was determined to stay away from recurring hopeless cases, yet I still somehow ended up with Farrar, Betancur and Goss...

Because he was only 10 points! In my mind I was thinking, surely he'll up in the sprints somewhere. He just signed on to a new team!

Goss is not an unintelligent pick. I mean, he's not even 30 yet, and he's switched to a team where he can be a sort of experienced rider and go to guy, rather than one of ten sprinters at MTN, or a disappointing bust at OGE. At ten points, why not take that risk? If you're convinced he's washed up, fine, but I haven't given up the idea that he could have a 500-point season in him (although with every passing non-result, I'm becoming more convinced he doesn't). Either way, probably as good a 10-point roll of the dice as any. Betancur's the same - I actually wanted to leave him off my team just because I'm so convinced he won't have a good year. I don't believe in him. I hope for him, but I don't believe. But still - with a guy who's totally mercurial and could get a 1000-point profit, I just couldn't leave him off. I often don't go fear-based on my picks (like, with 'obvious' picks I usually believe they'll profit rather than fear that they will and I'll miss them), but Betancur is a rare exception.
 
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My riders for the weekend:

Omloop
MARTIN Tony
DEMARE Arnaud
OFFREDO Yohan

Classic Sud Ardèche
VICHOT Arthur
HARDY Romain
JEANNESSON Arnold

Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne
DEMARE Arnaud
OFFREDO Yohan

Drome Classic
VICHOT Arthur
HARDY Romain
JEANNESSON Arnold
MARTINEZ Yannick
DASSONVILLE Flavien

GP Lugano
ZAUGG Oliver
 
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My weekend looks better now....hopefully. I will be very disappointed if I don't get some good points from this lot:

OMLOOP - Fenn, Peters, Politt
KBK - Ewan, Fenn, Peters, Pilitt, Bohli,
Ardeche - A Yates, S Yates, Bardet, Chaves, Pellaud, Contreras
Dome- Bardet, Chaves, Yates x 2, Pellaud, Pinchon
Lugano - Cattaneo, Arreger
 
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skidmark said:
Jspear said:
Squire said:
Jancouver said:
Davide Martinelli just got his first win of the season. Just 20 points but still nice to see him delivering to his potential!

Gaviria is being a bad teammate for my CQ team. #nogifts! :mad: :D

CQ game aside though, I do appreciate what he did. I like Martinelli too, nice to see him get his first win.

And in other news, Goss is continuing his no-show this season in Langkawi. Why, oh, why did I pick him? I was determined to stay away from recurring hopeless cases, yet I still somehow ended up with Farrar, Betancur and Goss...

Because he was only 10 points! In my mind I was thinking, surely he'll up in the sprints somewhere. He just signed on to a new team!

Goss is not an unintelligent pick. I mean, he's not even 30 yet, and he's switched to a team where he can be a sort of experienced rider and go to guy, rather than one of ten sprinters at MTN, or a disappointing bust at OGE. At ten points, why not take that risk? If you're convinced he's washed up, fine, but I haven't given up the idea that he could have a 500-point season in him (although with every passing non-result, I'm becoming more convinced he doesn't). Either way, probably as good a 10-point roll of the dice as any. Betancur's the same - I actually wanted to leave him off my team just because I'm so convinced he won't have a good year. I don't believe in him. I hope for him, but I don't believe. But still - with a guy who's totally mercurial and could get a 1000-point profit, I just couldn't leave him off. I often don't go fear-based on my picks (like, with 'obvious' picks I usually believe they'll profit rather than fear that they will and I'll miss them), but Betancur is a rare exception.


It is not about the 10 points. It is about the spot taken. Just recently. I was thinking if I should be better to take multiple 100-500 points guys instead of taking one guy at 1000 and wasting a bunch of spots with those free/cheap picks.
 
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Jancouver said:
skidmark said:
Jspear said:
Squire said:
Jancouver said:
Davide Martinelli just got his first win of the season. Just 20 points but still nice to see him delivering to his potential!

Gaviria is being a bad teammate for my CQ team. #nogifts! :mad: :D

CQ game aside though, I do appreciate what he did. I like Martinelli too, nice to see him get his first win.

And in other news, Goss is continuing his no-show this season in Langkawi. Why, oh, why did I pick him? I was determined to stay away from recurring hopeless cases, yet I still somehow ended up with Farrar, Betancur and Goss...

Because he was only 10 points! In my mind I was thinking, surely he'll up in the sprints somewhere. He just signed on to a new team!

Goss is not an unintelligent pick. I mean, he's not even 30 yet, and he's switched to a team where he can be a sort of experienced rider and go to guy, rather than one of ten sprinters at MTN, or a disappointing bust at OGE. At ten points, why not take that risk? If you're convinced he's washed up, fine, but I haven't given up the idea that he could have a 500-point season in him (although with every passing non-result, I'm becoming more convinced he doesn't). Either way, probably as good a 10-point roll of the dice as any. Betancur's the same - I actually wanted to leave him off my team just because I'm so convinced he won't have a good year. I don't believe in him. I hope for him, but I don't believe. But still - with a guy who's totally mercurial and could get a 1000-point profit, I just couldn't leave him off. I often don't go fear-based on my picks (like, with 'obvious' picks I usually believe they'll profit rather than fear that they will and I'll miss them), but Betancur is a rare exception.


It is not about the 10 points. It is about the spot taken. Just recently. I was thinking if I should be better to take multiple 100-500 points guys instead of taking one guy at 1000 and wasting a bunch of spots with those free/cheap picks.

Exactly, that's my main concern about Goss. He might be a waste of space. The 10 points don't bother me.

I think the answer to your question depends on what riders are available. This year, I found more value in the 500 guys, while another year it could be different.

I'm happy to finally note some good Langkawi news. Lopez looks like he could be in profit already, and might turn into somewhat of a must-have pick if he keeps this up. The more of these popular picks that rack up the points, the better for me!
 
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Squire said:
Jancouver said:
It is not about the 10 points. It is about the spot taken. Just recently. I was thinking if I should be better to take multiple 100-500 points guys instead of taking one guy at 1000 and wasting a bunch of spots with those free/cheap picks.

Exactly, that's my main concern about Goss. He might be a waste of space. The 10 points don't bother me.

I think the answer to your question depends on what riders are available. This year, I found more value in the 500 guys, while another year it could be different.

I'm happy to finally note some good Langkawi news. Lopez looks like he could be in profit already, and might turn into somewhat of a must-have pick if he keeps this up. The more of these popular picks that rack up the points, the better for me!

Yeah, that's not what I mean, like I wouldn't pick Goss at ten points and build my team around him. I'm definitely aware of the bigger picture of how a team comes together and the risks and rewards of that. But rather, if I do need a rider at around ten points, I feel like he's as good of a toss of the dice as anyone. Of course, I didn't pick Velits, so take what I say about cheap riders with a grain of salt.

Either way Goss looks terribly anonymous. At least my other rider in Langkawi is Lopez!