I haven't heard back from my email to CQ and the update is still the same, so I'm just gonna do update 31 today and then update 32 when this week's update comes out. Since they corrected scores, it won't affect the overall, it'll just be two weird weeks in the weekly standings. But that's in fitting with a sport where commissaires' judgement leads to seemingly arbitrary stage results (eg TdF mudslide stage 2019, moto crash on Ventoux a few years before, that one year of Catalunya they decided to end halfway up the penultimate climb and just had a thin line drawn across the road and a guy with a stopwatch standing beside it).
- May 14, 2009
- 2,869
- 888
- 13,680
Five stage races this week + four 1.1 races.
But for some reason not even half of the riders on my team are going to ride.
But for some reason not even half of the riders on my team are going to ride.
- Dec 12, 2010
- 871
- 460
- 11,080
Hardly. If I had an eye for talent, my team would have scored more than 5 points during the elite race. Still Laurance's win in the U23 was nice even if we are more in the "he's just trying to trick me into picking him again next year" than the "there's still hope they'll turn their season around" part of the calendar.
Update #31: Senderos sends a message with huge week
The combined World championships were taking place the week ending August 6th, although obviously only the road races offered CQ points. And CQ included the mixed TTT results on August 8th in their update labelled August 6th. On top of that, they awarded (in error) full points for each TTT participant as if they won the ITT worlds, ie 250 points for 1st rather than 62 points. This is presumably going to be corrected in the next update, but this week's scores will be inflated for some teams, in ways that certainly affected some teams in the weekly rankings (although somewhat limited, as the top teams had fairly rarely picked riders). But this is the CQ ranking game, and their points are canon even if in error, so if you benefitted from this, congrats and enjoy your week! Next one might see some negative scores.
Of course, this update included other men's races in the lead-up to the Worlds, including the WT-ranked Tour de Pologne and the 2.PS Tour de Wallonie.
This Week's Top Scorers
Senderos' lead in this huge week was such (230 points) that it hardly mattered that they were one of the 5 teams that benefitted from Stefan Bissegger's 250 allocated points rather than the correct 62. Big weeks at Pologne from Almeida (245 points, 15 teams), Mattia Cattaneo (170, 24) and Ilan Van Wilder (134, 34), and at Wallonie from Ganna (183, 7) and Tarling (125, 45) contributed to a big week. Anderis had some overlap but a different makeup; as one of the 15 owners who had MvdP, there was a clear star as he got 400 points for his owners. Anderis had help from another former RR world champ in Kwiatkowski (191, 22) as well as Van Wilder and Tarling. vladimir nabs third with 1140 points from a grab bag of riders scoring between 100-200 including Kwiatkowski, Cattaneo, Bettiol, Van Wilder and Bagioli.
This Week's High Movers
The same podium happens here with the top 2 places flipped, as Anderis skips over a full 26 teams in the standings.
Green Jersey Competition
Blues in the bottle continues to have a decent lead, although rote laterne's 16 weekly points vault them into 2nd by a hair and put 4 teams within a weekly win (45 points) of the overall lead.
Top 10 Overall
BITB remains comfortably in the lead here as well, finishing 25th on the week with 779 points. repre gains 141 points on the leader and moves up to 2nd, while everyone in the top 10 overall was in the top 38 of the week and so not many teams gained or lost >100 points on each other.
This 'next' week (actually last week due to the delay in publishing this while I waited to see if CQ would correct the TTT scores) is a quiet one, as the Worlds blots out most other races from the calendar, and so the WCTT riders will take centre stage.
spreadsheet at dropbox
The combined World championships were taking place the week ending August 6th, although obviously only the road races offered CQ points. And CQ included the mixed TTT results on August 8th in their update labelled August 6th. On top of that, they awarded (in error) full points for each TTT participant as if they won the ITT worlds, ie 250 points for 1st rather than 62 points. This is presumably going to be corrected in the next update, but this week's scores will be inflated for some teams, in ways that certainly affected some teams in the weekly rankings (although somewhat limited, as the top teams had fairly rarely picked riders). But this is the CQ ranking game, and their points are canon even if in error, so if you benefitted from this, congrats and enjoy your week! Next one might see some negative scores.
Of course, this update included other men's races in the lead-up to the Worlds, including the WT-ranked Tour de Pologne and the 2.PS Tour de Wallonie.
This Week's Top Scorers
| Rank | Team | Points this week |
| 1 | Senderos | 1459 |
| 2 | Anderis | 1229 |
| 3 | vladimir | 1140 |
| 4 | LosBrolin | 1113 |
| 5 | Berflamand | 1064 |
Senderos' lead in this huge week was such (230 points) that it hardly mattered that they were one of the 5 teams that benefitted from Stefan Bissegger's 250 allocated points rather than the correct 62. Big weeks at Pologne from Almeida (245 points, 15 teams), Mattia Cattaneo (170, 24) and Ilan Van Wilder (134, 34), and at Wallonie from Ganna (183, 7) and Tarling (125, 45) contributed to a big week. Anderis had some overlap but a different makeup; as one of the 15 owners who had MvdP, there was a clear star as he got 400 points for his owners. Anderis had help from another former RR world champ in Kwiatkowski (191, 22) as well as Van Wilder and Tarling. vladimir nabs third with 1140 points from a grab bag of riders scoring between 100-200 including Kwiatkowski, Cattaneo, Bettiol, Van Wilder and Bagioli.
This Week's High Movers
| Rank | Team | Up/down |
| 1 | Anderis | (+26) |
| 2 | Senderos | (+22) |
| 3 | vladimir | (+20) |
| 3 | Berflamand | (+20) |
| 5 | Googolplex | (+17) |
| 5 | escartin | (+17) |
The same podium happens here with the top 2 places flipped, as Anderis skips over a full 26 teams in the standings.
Green Jersey Competition
| Rank | Team | Total |
| 1 | Blues in the bottle | 242.5 |
| 2 | rote_laterne | 210.5 |
| 3 | zaka_fan | 210.3 |
| 4 | Jon_Ezeitza | 202 |
| 5 | bminchow | 200.3 |
Blues in the bottle continues to have a decent lead, although rote laterne's 16 weekly points vault them into 2nd by a hair and put 4 teams within a weekly win (45 points) of the overall lead.
Top 10 Overall
| Rank | Up/down | Team | Points |
| 1 | (-) | Blues in the bottle | 11627 |
| 2 | (+1) | repre | 10964 |
| 3 | (-1) | will10 | 10869 |
| 4 | (+2) | Kazistuta | 10784 |
| 5 | (+6) | Riverside | 10747 |
| 6 | (-2) | tobydawq | 10693 |
| 7 | (-2) | Whoops | 10652 |
| 8 | (-) | AlfaLum | 10636 |
| 9 | (-) | Sneekes | 10504 |
| 10 | (+22) | Senderos | 10365 |
BITB remains comfortably in the lead here as well, finishing 25th on the week with 779 points. repre gains 141 points on the leader and moves up to 2nd, while everyone in the top 10 overall was in the top 38 of the week and so not many teams gained or lost >100 points on each other.
This 'next' week (actually last week due to the delay in publishing this while I waited to see if CQ would correct the TTT scores) is a quiet one, as the Worlds blots out most other races from the calendar, and so the WCTT riders will take centre stage.
spreadsheet at dropbox
- Aug 29, 2011
- 3,486
- 1,712
- 16,680
- Dec 28, 2010
- 2,584
- 537
- 13,080
Wærenskjold is having such a giga season. Well done on that pick.
I used to think he was one of those who got good junior results due to having matured early and his first U23 years seemed to confirm that. Maybe I should have seen this coming when he crushed Segaert in the U23 WCITT last year. But again it was maybe the three year age gap that fooled me.
- Sep 26, 2020
- 16,989
- 15,950
- 22,180
I had pretty much given up on Óscar Rodriguez after that road sign crash in the Giro, so it was a nice surprise to see he had finished second in Limousin today.
Update #32: Ineos TT duo dominate the leaderboard again
...and now to catch up! After the previous update giving a handful of teams >1000 points on the week, things were a bit more down to earth this week, with no major stage races and mostly the Worlds ITT offering points. Given that Ganna and Tarling went 1-2 in Wallonie on the last update and 2-3 in the Worlds ITT, there are some familiar names at the top from last ranking.
This Week's Top Scorers
adamski101 wins the week with a relatively modest 375 points, thanks largely to the aforementioned Ganna (150, 7 teams) and Tarling (120, 45) and also some minor placings from Foss (43, 3), Asgreen (31, 82) and Kamna (21, 5). Yellow Knight ends up in second place with of course Ganna/Tarling and also some U23 points from Antonio Morgado (36, 15). Riverside ends up in third but had Asgreen rather than Morgado.
An interesting quirk of the CQ scoring error in the TTT last week is that Senderos ends up in 4th this week, but would have won this week had it not been for the negative 163 points Bissegger got for the correction. Senderos had Ganna/Tarling/Asgreen, but also U23 winner Axel Laurance (60, 11) and podium finisher Svrcek (30, 19) as well as Mattia Cattaneo (51, 24). I figured when the scoring error happened that a team might win a week they wouldn't have otherwise and then the next week wouldn't have been at the top the following week so the negative points wouldn't have mattered. But in fact it's the opposite - Senderos won last week by more than 163 points, so their team would have in fact won both weeks had it been scored correctly. What's more, Senderos was on top week 30 so it would have made it 3 in a row! Senderos is on a tear regardless of the placings this week.
This Week's High Movers
Modest scores mean modest moves, and we see a 4-way tie for first on this ranking between teams that did not show up on the first ranking's podium, giving evidence that it is difficult to move much at this point in the season without 500+ points.
Green Jersey Competition
Senderos' big run of the last few weeks adds their team as another contender in this ranking, moving into 2nd behind Blues in the bottle. Five teams are within striking distance of the top (<45 points), though BITB still stands above.
Top 10 Overall
repre gains 70 points this week on Blues in the bottle, but there's still a comfortable 600 point gap to 2nd, then another gap to 3rd/4th, and even more further down. The busy late summer and early fall calendar can still change that, but we are going to be running out of weeks very soon. No new entries or exits from the top 10 this week.
This current week picks up with a busy August week of racing. Races include:
- 2.1 Tour de Limousin
- end of the 2.1 Vuelta Portugal
- 2.Pro Tour of Denmark
- 2.Pro Vuelta Burgos
- 2.Pro Arctic Race of Norway
- 1.1 Ronde om Leuven
- 1.1 Druivenkoers-Overijse
- 1.1 Egmont Cycling Race
- 1.UWT Cyclassics
And the start of L'Avenir. Wow!
spreadsheet at dropbox
...and now to catch up! After the previous update giving a handful of teams >1000 points on the week, things were a bit more down to earth this week, with no major stage races and mostly the Worlds ITT offering points. Given that Ganna and Tarling went 1-2 in Wallonie on the last update and 2-3 in the Worlds ITT, there are some familiar names at the top from last ranking.
This Week's Top Scorers
| Rank | Team | Points this week |
| 1 | adamski101 | 375 |
| 2 | Yellow Knight | 328 |
| 3 | Riverside | 323 |
| 4 | Senderos | 302 |
| 5 | King_Of_The_Wolds | 280 |
adamski101 wins the week with a relatively modest 375 points, thanks largely to the aforementioned Ganna (150, 7 teams) and Tarling (120, 45) and also some minor placings from Foss (43, 3), Asgreen (31, 82) and Kamna (21, 5). Yellow Knight ends up in second place with of course Ganna/Tarling and also some U23 points from Antonio Morgado (36, 15). Riverside ends up in third but had Asgreen rather than Morgado.
An interesting quirk of the CQ scoring error in the TTT last week is that Senderos ends up in 4th this week, but would have won this week had it not been for the negative 163 points Bissegger got for the correction. Senderos had Ganna/Tarling/Asgreen, but also U23 winner Axel Laurance (60, 11) and podium finisher Svrcek (30, 19) as well as Mattia Cattaneo (51, 24). I figured when the scoring error happened that a team might win a week they wouldn't have otherwise and then the next week wouldn't have been at the top the following week so the negative points wouldn't have mattered. But in fact it's the opposite - Senderos won last week by more than 163 points, so their team would have in fact won both weeks had it been scored correctly. What's more, Senderos was on top week 30 so it would have made it 3 in a row! Senderos is on a tear regardless of the placings this week.
This Week's High Movers
| Rank | Team | Up/down |
| 1 | rote_laterne | (+6) |
| 1 | Nakazar | (+6) |
| 1 | triley36 | (+6) |
| 1 | Fivezzz | (+6) |
| 5 | manafana | (+5) |
| 5 | Nyssinator | (+5) |
| 5 | Yellow Knight | (+5) |
| 5 | armchairclimber | (+5) |
| 5 | King_Of_The_Wolds | (+5) |
| 5 | EvansIsTheBest | (+5) |
| 5 | DJW | (+5) |
Modest scores mean modest moves, and we see a 4-way tie for first on this ranking between teams that did not show up on the first ranking's podium, giving evidence that it is difficult to move much at this point in the season without 500+ points.
Green Jersey Competition
| Rank | Team | Total |
| 1 | Blues in the bottle | 242.5 |
| 2 | Senderos | 213 |
| 3 | rote_laterne | 210.5 |
| 4 | zaka_fan | 210.3 |
| 5 | Jon_Ezeitza | 202 |
Senderos' big run of the last few weeks adds their team as another contender in this ranking, moving into 2nd behind Blues in the bottle. Five teams are within striking distance of the top (<45 points), though BITB still stands above.
Top 10 Overall
| Rank | Up/down | Team | Points |
| 1 | (-) | Blues in the bottle | 11789 |
| 2 | (-) | repre | 11196 |
| 3 | (-) | will10 | 11090 |
| 4 | (+1) | Riverside | 11070 |
| 5 | (+2) | Whoops | 10887 |
| 6 | (-) | tobydawq | 10879 |
| 7 | (+1) | AlfaLum | 10861 |
| 8 | (-4) | Kazistuta | 10815 |
| 9 | (-) | Sneekes | 10674 |
| 10 | (-) | Senderos | 10667 |
repre gains 70 points this week on Blues in the bottle, but there's still a comfortable 600 point gap to 2nd, then another gap to 3rd/4th, and even more further down. The busy late summer and early fall calendar can still change that, but we are going to be running out of weeks very soon. No new entries or exits from the top 10 this week.
This current week picks up with a busy August week of racing. Races include:
- 2.1 Tour de Limousin
- end of the 2.1 Vuelta Portugal
- 2.Pro Tour of Denmark
- 2.Pro Vuelta Burgos
- 2.Pro Arctic Race of Norway
- 1.1 Ronde om Leuven
- 1.1 Druivenkoers-Overijse
- 1.1 Egmont Cycling Race
- 1.UWT Cyclassics
And the start of L'Avenir. Wow!
spreadsheet at dropbox
- Sep 26, 2020
- 16,989
- 15,950
- 22,180
My brain cut out at 69It's not even the worst this week(Eyeballs Out has -153)
I'd imagine there's a big DQ/suspension in there for someone - something like Contador's 2011 but I doubt he was picked that year. When did Quintana lose his points for last year? I can't think of anyone else off hand.
Yes Quintana comes to mind - I don't recall (but it's somewhere in last year's updates) how much he lost, but it was all of his Tour points at once (stage and GC). Contador wasn't officially suspended by CAS until 2012 I believe so even if he had been picked it didn't affect things before the game was over, which is usually the case with adjustments.
I recall some error adjustments before leading to negative scores (or changing of the spelling of a rider's name making it look like a team had lost tons of points on a week) but no specific one that big comes to mind other than Nairo.
Infamous unique picker of Nairo for 2022-game speaking. -169 points that week, rendering Eyeballs Out's score this week moot.
- Nov 16, 2013
- 20,996
- 17,868
- 28,180
- Dec 12, 2010
- 871
- 460
- 11,080
Yes I think you hold the record. That was pretty impactful too because you were third at the time and it came fairly late in the season. If I recall correctly my lead on third increased by more points than I scored that particular week as a result.
Every time I open my tab on the spreadsheet and see Gino Mader's name there it gives me the sads.
Update #33: HoudiniCycling conjures up a magical week
Lots of action this week with several stage races and 1-days going on. As such, teams had many pathways to a points haul this week, even if the most popular riders in the game were not in action.
This Week's Top Scorers
A very close race at the top this week, with HoudiniCycling escaping with a 5-point win on the week. The bulk of their team's points came from a few top picks, with still-undefeated-in-stage-races-in-2023 Primoz Roglic adding another 222 points to his yearly haul. HoudiniCycling added two other stage race winners in Stephen Williams (183 points, 4 teams) and Romain Gregoire (168 points, 60 teams) and a notable contribution from Damien Howson (83 points, 4 teams). Just edged out for the win is defending champ EvansIstheBest, who's had a relatively quiet year but comes roaring back this week thanks to the popular Roglic/Gregoire duo, as well as Tobias Johannessen (88, 20), Javier Romo (59, 6) and Axel Laurence (40, 11). greenedge rounds out the podium with Roglic, Gregoire and Soren Warenskjold (154, 11).
This Week's High Movers
JPettersen finished 4th in the top scorers but is the high mover this week, leaping 14 places with the same main trio as greenedge. The 2nd and 3rd steps of the podium are identical to the other ranking.
Green Jersey Competition
After several weeks of leapfrogging for the podium spots, no action this week as HoudiniCycling jumping into 9th place is the highest movement and scoring in this ranking.
Top 10 Overall
Blues in the bottle's indomitable lead is being chipped away at once more, with repre gaining 141 points on the week to pull within around 550 points. Still a substantial amount, but notably less than the 1000+ lead that was in place several weeks back. Third through 8th all gain points on the leader as well, which will add some hope that the podium is achievable with a good end to the season. Despite shuffling in the top 10, no one enters or leaves the top 10 this week.
This week is stage-race city at all levels, with the 2.1 Poitou-Charentes, 2.Pro Deutschland Tour, 2.WT Renewi Tour (former Eneco Tour) and the weekend sees the start of the last Grand Tour of the year!
spreadsheet at dropbox
Lots of action this week with several stage races and 1-days going on. As such, teams had many pathways to a points haul this week, even if the most popular riders in the game were not in action.
This Week's Top Scorers
| Rank | Team | Points this week |
| 1 | HoudiniCycling | 682 |
| 2 | EvansIsTheBest | 677 |
| 3 | greenedge | 658 |
| 4 | JPettersen | 645 |
| 5 | PremierAndrew | 640 |
A very close race at the top this week, with HoudiniCycling escaping with a 5-point win on the week. The bulk of their team's points came from a few top picks, with still-undefeated-in-stage-races-in-2023 Primoz Roglic adding another 222 points to his yearly haul. HoudiniCycling added two other stage race winners in Stephen Williams (183 points, 4 teams) and Romain Gregoire (168 points, 60 teams) and a notable contribution from Damien Howson (83 points, 4 teams). Just edged out for the win is defending champ EvansIstheBest, who's had a relatively quiet year but comes roaring back this week thanks to the popular Roglic/Gregoire duo, as well as Tobias Johannessen (88, 20), Javier Romo (59, 6) and Axel Laurence (40, 11). greenedge rounds out the podium with Roglic, Gregoire and Soren Warenskjold (154, 11).
This Week's High Movers
| Rank | Team | Up/down |
| 1 | JPettersen | (+14) |
| 2 | EvansIsTheBest | (+13) |
| 2 | greenedge | (+13) |
| 4 | karaev | (+12) |
| 5 | SafeBet | (+9) |
JPettersen finished 4th in the top scorers but is the high mover this week, leaping 14 places with the same main trio as greenedge. The 2nd and 3rd steps of the podium are identical to the other ranking.
Green Jersey Competition
| Rank | Team | Total |
| 1 | Blues in the bottle | 242.5 |
| 2 | Senderos | 213 |
| 3 | rote_laterne | 210.5 |
| 4 | zaka_fan | 210.3 |
| 5 | Jon_Ezeitza | 202 |
After several weeks of leapfrogging for the podium spots, no action this week as HoudiniCycling jumping into 9th place is the highest movement and scoring in this ranking.
Top 10 Overall
| Rank | Up/down | Team | Points |
| 1 | (-) | Blues in the bottle | 12208 |
| 2 | (-) | repre | 11756 |
| 3 | (+1) | Riverside | 11587 |
| 4 | (-1) | will10 | 11553 |
| 5 | (+3) | Kazistuta | 11417 |
| 6 | (-1) | Whoops | 11405 |
| 7 | (-1) | tobydawq | 11363 |
| 8 | (+2) | Senderos | 11193 |
| 9 | (-2) | AlfaLum | 11186 |
| 10 | (-1) | Sneekes | 11174 |
Blues in the bottle's indomitable lead is being chipped away at once more, with repre gaining 141 points on the week to pull within around 550 points. Still a substantial amount, but notably less than the 1000+ lead that was in place several weeks back. Third through 8th all gain points on the leader as well, which will add some hope that the podium is achievable with a good end to the season. Despite shuffling in the top 10, no one enters or leaves the top 10 this week.
This week is stage-race city at all levels, with the 2.1 Poitou-Charentes, 2.Pro Deutschland Tour, 2.WT Renewi Tour (former Eneco Tour) and the weekend sees the start of the last Grand Tour of the year!
spreadsheet at dropbox
- Dec 12, 2010
- 871
- 460
- 11,080
When I download the spreadsheet I can see the 34 best teams without scrolling and after this week I'm 34th so I don't have to scroll to find my team anymore. Time to pop the champagne.
Another pretty good day with Van Wilder and Tarling winning, Waerenksjold taking the lead and Asgreen, Kwiatkowski and Wright putting themselves in a reasonable position to score something in Renewi Tour.
5 out of the top 6 in the Benelux Tour today. now they need to hold onto their positions until the final stage.
- Jan 29, 2020
- 520
- 1,133
- 6,780
Having Ethan Hayter as an expensive pick does not look like a great move.
What the hell has happened with Hayter this year?
Yesterday he was second-to-last at the Deutschland Tour at over 14 minutes in a stage that should have suited him for the win.
What the hell has happened with Hayter this year?
Yesterday he was second-to-last at the Deutschland Tour at over 14 minutes in a stage that should have suited him for the win.
- Jan 1, 2018
- 47
- 25
- 3,630
and finally he got more points then in 2022Teunissen into green on his birthday, how nice
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