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The 2023 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

Page 54 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
Skjelmose isn’t far behind, was surprise he only had 3 other picks that me, he just looked like he would progress from last season
Yeah, Skjelmose also has a great season. Had him last year, but didn´t saw that much upward potential anymore after his 944 points last season. Excluding the tour he really delivered CQ point wise in every race he participated this year. This includes GC in smaller stage races and one day races. Hats off for this!!
 
Update #35: A tie at the top

(Apologies for being awol, I had hoped to catch up last week but had some personal stuff to deal with coming home from travel. I'll try to have everything up to date within a week with 3 updates)

The first week of the Vuelta (week ended September 3rd) saw those points take over the game, with the Maryland classic and GP Bretagne throwing in some higher-level points as well.

This Week's Top Scorers

RankTeamPoints this week
1shalgo445
1oliveira445
3azazel442
4del1962385
5Amis_Velo375

There was a tie at the top this week, with shalgo and oliveira netting 445 each, and azazel in third only 3 points behind. Shalgo's top scorer was the opportunistic Sepp Kuss (111 points, 9 teams) who took advantage of a breakaway to outshine his two higher-profile teammates and take the red jersey. His teammate Roglic (85 points, 57 teams), fellow opportunist Lenny Martinez (81, 58) and a few riders from other races such as Lucas Hamilton (58, 13) and Mikkel Honore (46, 40) contributed to the cause. oliveira did not have Kuss or Honore, but had the above mentioned three and a good week from Kaden Groves (150, 7) and Juan Ayuso (50, 25) lead the way. azazel had a Groves-led team as well.

This Week's High Movers

RankTeamUp/down
1Amis_Velo(+9)
1DJ Sprtsch(+9)
3shalgo(+6)
4Nakazar(+4)
5hfgon1(+3)
5del1962(+3)
5oliveira(+3)

Another tie at the top on this ranking, with two different teams - Amis Velo (Kuss/Roglic/Martinez) and DJ Sprtsch (Skjelmose/Roglic/Martinez) split the top spot moving up 9 spots overall, with shalgo being the only team to double podium this week.

Green Jersey Competition


RankTeamTotal
1Blues in the bottle272.5
2Senderos223
3rote_laterne210.5
4zaka_fan210.3
5Jon_Ezeitza202

No scoring in the top 5 overall this week, as Blues in the bottle continues to sit pretty on top.

Top 10 Overall

RankUp/downTeamPoints
1(-)Blues in the bottle13068
2(-)repre12446
3(-)Riverside12296
4(+2)Sneekes12117
5(-1)tobydawq12095
6(-1)will1012076
7(+2)Senderos11937
8(-)Kazistuta11858
9(-2)Whoops11838
10(-)AlfaLum11706

repre and Riverside gain over 40 points on Blues in the bottle, but the gap is still wide and time is running out. The real shark in the water, though, is that Blues is one of the 9 teams in the game with Kuss, and so even if other teams in the top 10 have some combo of Vuelta high achievers, it's going to be a tough hill to climb given only 5 teams are within 1000 points.

The next update will be for the week ending September 10th, including the second week of the Vuelta, the Canadian WT races, and a few others.

Spreadsheet at dropbox
 
Now that Kuss has made it official in Spain, it's pretty much a wrap here also. 11/12 leaders after the Vuelta went on to win the competition at the end of the year and the only time it flipped there was just a hundred points between the two teams after the Vuelta. Blues should still have a buffer that's ten times that when that update comes out plus there are no Worlds to help close the gap so there's just no way back.

The only thing left to do is chase down the record for biggest winning margin ever (1266 by skidmark in 2012). Obviously congrats for such a well built team but hopefully we'll have a more competitive edition next year.
 
I think it's a weird season. I have tons of riders on my team who have had really frustrating seasons and not maximised their points tallies at all (looking at you, Ewan, Bettiol, Honoré etc) yet somehow I'm still in the top 5...
 
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I think it's a weird season. I have tons of riders on my points who have had really frustrating seasons and not maximised their points tallies at all (looking at you, Ewan, Bettiol, Honoré etc) yet somehow I'm still in the top 5...
Nobody's perfect)) I have Padun and Stewart and still was second, everybody have some corpses in their team.

Even with Stewart and Padun i think biggest dissapointmen is Alaphilippe. How the mighty has fallen... Do you guys think he will be better next season? Cause i don't think so, he looks like Total Energies material
 
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Nobody's perfect)) I have Padun and Stewart and still was second, everybody have some corpses in their team.

Even with Stewart and Padun i think biggest dissapointmen is Alaphilippe. How the mighty has fallen... Do you guys think he will be better next season? Cause i don't think so, he looks like Total Energies material
With his results in Canada he is at least 90 points into profit right now, so he isn´t CQ wise a total desaster this season. But of course everybody expected a lot more from him this season.

I also agree, that I don´t see much upward potential for next season in him. So I predict a lot less than 97 players will pick him for next season..
 
I think it's a weird season. I have tons of riders on my team who have had really frustrating seasons and not maximised their points tallies at all (looking at you, Ewan, Bettiol, Honoré etc) yet somehow I'm still in the top 5...
Out of 33 riders, you are always going to have some riders that fall ill, get injuried, get buried behind other teammates, get a racing calendar that doesn't suit them, are totally off form... I'm sure if you look at the other top teams they also have a few picks they'd like to take back. The most extreme example, is skidmark posting the best score of all time in 2012 while their most expensive pick (Modolo) didn't even break even. This is a game that rewards finding great picks more than avoiding mistakes.

@skidmark: It seems that CQ changed ANDERSEN Søren Kragh to KRAGH ANDERSEN Søren in their latest update.
 
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Out of 33 riders, you are always going to have some riders that fall ill, get injuried, get buried behind other teammates, get a racing calendar that doesn't suit them, are totally off form... I'm sure if you look at the other top teams they also have a few picks they'd like to take back. The most extreme example, is skidmark posting the best score of all time in 2012 while their most expensive pick (Modolo) didn't even break even. This is a game that rewards finding great picks more than avoiding mistakes.

@skidmark: It seems that CQ changed ANDERSEN Søren Kragh to KRAGH ANDERSEN Søren in their latest update.

Sure but they're some of my more expensive picks. Asgreen, Kragh and Alaphilippe haven't been good either and were also quite expensive.
 
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This is a game that rewards finding great picks more than avoiding mistakes.
Our current leader and champion-in-waiting is a great example of that. Their team is about as unsatisfying as everybody else's this season, but the difference is how they really hit bullseye with a few picks: Healy, Kuss and Jorgenson/Vermaerke to an extent.

To win this year, you had to choose the correct macro strategy with Roglic, then do what BitB has done with some stand-out picks.
 
Our current leader and champion-in-waiting is a great example of that. Their team is about as unsatisfying as everybody else's this season, but the difference is how they really hit bullseye with a few picks: Healy, Kuss and Jorgenson/Vermaerke to an extent.

To win this year, you had to choose the correct macro strategy with Roglic, then do what BitB has done with some stand-out picks.
It has been a low, low scoring year for sure. It's especially jarring after the two most prolific editions in the game back to back. The average score in 2021 was slightly above 15k and BitB might the only team to reach that total this year. 34 teams broke 15k last year, the last of which ironically was Blues'. They'll probably end up scoring a similar amount this year and go from 34th to runaway 1st. That's the kind of year it has been (but looking at all the editions of the game, the last two years are the outliers and this is more a return to the norm).
 
Update #36: HoudiniCycling takes another week and Blues takes another step towards the win

This update covers the second week of the Vuelta, Tour of Britain, and the two Canadian WT races among others (catch-up update coming in the next 48 hours I promise).

This Week's Top Scorers

RankTeamPoints this week
1HoudiniCycling687
2Josedin660
3comodoro585
4Nakazar567
5oliveira553

HoudiniCycling takes a second weekly win in the last four weeks, with an impressively spread-out support team this week. Their team benefitted from good results from Damien Howson (105 points, 4 teams), Julian Alaphilippe (87, 97), Simon Yates (81, 7), Magnus Sheffield (81, 13), Matteo Moschetti (66, 15), and Primoz Roglic (50, 57), among several smaller contributions. Josedin has more top-heavy help, reaching 2nd thanks to Arnaud De Lie (225, 2) and Tim Merlier (130, 1) leading the way, while comodoro manages the last spot on the podium thanks to Pavel Sivakov (137, 2), Tobias Johannessen (115, 20) and Howson breaking 100.

This Week's High Movers

RankTeamUp/down
1Nakazar(+9)
1EvansIsTheBest(+9)
3RedheadDane(+8)
4SafeBet(+6)
4Mellow Velo(+6)
4NielsB(+6)
4zigzag_wanderer(+6)

There's a tie for the top here, as Nakazar's Corbin Strong (132, 9) powered team and last year's champ EITB's Johannessen powered team both move up 9 spots on the overall. RedheadDane rounds out the podium.

Green Jersey Competition

RankTeamTotal
1Blues in the bottle286.5
2HoudiniCycling226
3Senderos223
4rote_laterne210.5
5zaka_fan210.3

HoudiniCycling's 45 points on the week vaults their team into 2nd overall from outside the top 5, but Blues in the bottle nets another 14 points for a top 10 on the week to move even further out of reach for everyone else. Only the top 7 overall could take top spot with TWO weekly wins (BITB would have to be shut out). This one's all but sewn up.

Top 10 Overall


RankUp/downTeamPoints
1(-)Blues in the bottle13585
2(-)repre12744
3(-)Riverside12641
4(+1)tobydawq12486
5(-1)Sneekes12470
6(-)will1012419
7(+4)HoudiniCycling12331
8(-1)Senderos12252
9(-)Whoops12186
10(-2)Kazistuta12158

Blues in the bottle gained almost 220 points on repre and 170 on Riverside this week, rendering the likelihood of someone else winning the year even more remote as the lead increases to >800 points. HoudiniCycling's weekly win vaults their team into the top 10, while AlfaLum fell out.

The next update will include the Vuelta GC points, representing the turning of a corner towards the end of the 2023 season! time to start looking at your 2024 CQ team if you haven't already...

spreadsheet at dropbox
 
Just when my chances for a top20 overall started looking solid, I scored the fewest points of all players in this update...
It's not looking great for us non-Roglic pickers.

I'm in 39th, and the gaps from 20th to 60th are extremely tight. Would have been a golden chance to move up into a decent spot if I had a good Vuelta, but not having Roglic is going to mean that a lot of people will move past me in the next update.
 
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