The 2024 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

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For example I would say that the performance of Ayuso (1023 points, 39 picks) will be way more important than del Toro (124 points, 47 picks). But in the ranking they are just one place away from each other.. But in general I like your idea..
That totally depends on how many points they score. If Del Toro somehow manages a 1000+ points season (not super realistic, but neither did it seem realistic for De Lie to score so much in 2022), then everyone who hasn't picked Del Toro is screwed at least as much as whoever was on the wrong side of the Ayuso choice.

Thus, the season will determine which riders were the most important. It's about how many ponts away a rider is from their expected score.
 
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That totally depends on how many points they score. If Del Toro somehow manages a 1000+ points season (not super realistic, but neither did it seem realistic for De Lie to score so much in 2022), then everyone who hasn't picked Del Toro is screwed at least as much as whoever was on the wrong side of the Ayuso choice.

Thus, the season will determine which riders were the most important. It's about how many ponts away a rider is from their expected score.
That´s of course true. It will of course depend in the end how many points in the end every rider will really score.

But what one can do right now to create such an assessment is (and that is basically what Hugo Koblet did), that you forecast based on last years score how much additonal points (or also negative points; so fewer points then in the year before) a rider could give you. Then you assume that a rider with a higher last years score has a further range then riders with a smaller last years score, so that their performance has a higher impact. Of course it´s a bit theoretical assumption, but otherwise you would have to assess a 0 point rider which is picked 40 times as important as a 1000 pointer, who had been picked 40 times and this is in my eyes not accurate enough.
 
Thus, the season will determine which riders were the most important.
Yes, while Hugo's method is a fun attempt, there's really no way of making a general assumption about this pre-game. I think it was maybe @Armchair cyclist (or was it statistics guru Skibby?) who once made a post-season calculation of which riders made the biggest difference to the optimal team and came up with a 'penalty' for not having them. I.e. if you took out a rider from the optimal team, how much worse would it be? That was probably the most objective way you could look at it.

In practice, rare riders with huge seasons like De Lie 2022, Colbrelli 2021 and Teuns 2017 have single-handedly given their backers a good chance of being quite high up the standings. Things like having Roglic last year was of course a pre-requisite for being in the fight for a high placing, so he was obviously important in that respect, but he didn't really have a say in who won the game. That was down to rare picks like Healy and Kuss for BITB. Even when fauniera won the game while having the highest popularity ranking, you can say it was rare pick Uran that really made the difference. The more rare a rider is, I guess there's less chance that he'll be canceled out by equally good picks on other teams. Even though a good Hayter or Girmay could be important for getting a high placing, they'll be shared by half the teams and dont't say too much about whether you finish 1st or 50th.

Don't know if I'm even trying to make any point with this rambling, but the conclusion is, I guess, that everything is a bit too complex to assign big importance to any one pick or picks pre-game.

Pre-game, the only thing you can do with some confidence is maybe looking at head-to-head between specific teams. But even then, it's very possible that f.ex. my Pidcock and EITB's Ayuso cancel each other out, and that Oldani becoming Canola reincarnated or Vuillermoz partying like it's 2017 becomes the difference-maker. But @Earns1985 is right about how expensive picks have a bigger chance of rendering a big chunk of your budget 'unused', so to speak.
 
I'm back at work so I have a time for a brief team presentation:

Popular picks
QUINTANA Nairo
CARAPAZ Richard
ARENSMAN Thymen
- didn't consider him an obvious pick, I think he needs everything to go his way to be relevant
MARTINEZ Daniel - see Arensman
RYAN Archie - mandatory pick at that price but Jumbo dumping him is a real concern
TURNER Ben
STAUNE-MITTET Johannes
- personally I have doubts about his potential but it's Jumbo so...
AUGUST Andrew
CAPIOT Amaury
PICCOLO Andrea
UIJTDEBROEKS Cian -
never had him in my team until the late transfer announcement
PLAPP Lucas

Not so popular picks
AYUSO Juan
MORGADO Antonio
- could be a game changer
CHRISTEN Jan
GLOAG Thomas
MOSCON Gianni
LAURANCE Axel -
hoped he'd be less popular, I think he's going to be a point machine
VALGREN Michael
BENNETT Sam
COVI Alessandro
- he's allegedly recovered from his health issues and will ride a no GT season
HERZOG Emil
SHEFFIELD Magnus
- superstar in the making? Probably the pick I'm most intrigued about
HAGENES Per Strand - had him in my initial team, then cut him, then back and forth a million times. Generational talent but is he point friendly?

Kinda rare
HAYTER Leo - very few racing days in his rookie season but showed flashes both in stage and one day races
BUSATTO Francesco - Bagioli vibes, hopefully with more consistency from the get go
FAURE PROST Alexy - impressed me a few times on long climbs last year
ACKERMANN Pascal
VAN EETVELT Lennert
- rare combination of talent and friendly calendar, couldn't pass
GELDERS Gil

Rare
JOHANNESSEN Tobias - unfinished business after waiting for him to score points for months in 2023. Stage 20 of the Tour convinced me he has what it takes to compete at the top level
GAZZOLI Michele - came back from his suspension like a bullet, curious to see what he can do in a full season
RONDEL Mathys - I'm probably crazy but I think his ceiling is similar to Del Toro's (at a cheaper price). Tudor likes to develop their talents slowly but I'm expecting a big step up this year.


Didn't make my final cut
ALBANESE Vincenzo
POOLE Max
SEGAERT Alex
LAMPERTI Luke
OLDANI Stefano
KULSET Johannes
BRENNER Marco
 
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RONDEL Mathys - I'm probably crazy but I think his ceiling is similar to Del Toro's (at a cheaper price). Tudor likes to develop their talents slowly but I'm expecting a big step up this year.
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Thought about him but finally decided against for two reasons.

- first of all it made me sceptical that he is with the Tudor U23 Team for this year. I probably would have decided different if he would have been listed with the first team. Now I feared that it might be a year too early to pick him
- and I think he is a great allrounder that hasnt found out yet where his strenghts are and where to focus on. From what I know he started cycling very late so is still kind of a raw product which needs to be grinded first. Think he can be in great positions in some races but wont end up on top so will miss out on some points for this year till he has found out where to focus on
 
In hindsight I should probably have gambled a lot more on obvious talents like Del Toro.
In the past pretty much every Tour de l'Avenir winner has made a profit the next year.

2022 Winner UIJTDEBROEKS Cian went from 253 to 574.
2021 Winner JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland went from 237 to 462.
2019 Winner FOSS Tobias Svendsen went from 127 to 99 but we all know what happened in 2020.
2018 Winner POGACAR Tadej went from 361 to 1519.
2017 Winner BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley went from 766 to 1130.
2016 Winner GAUDU David went from 196 to 352.
2015 Winner SOLER GIMENEZ Marc went from 111 to 155.
2014 Winner LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel went from 71 to 297.
2013 Winner FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben went from 67 to 163.
2012 Winner BARGUIL Warren went from 120 to 342.
2011 Winner CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban went from 64 to 314.
2010 Winner QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander went from 72 to 60.

Essentially since the start of this game only Quintana and Foss have not entered into profit in the year after their Tour de l'Avenir victory. Everyone else barring Soler, Gaudu and perhaps Bernal and Johannessen were really solid picks too.

Ridiculous that I had such significant doubts about the (absolute) top youngsters being able to improve on their scores in their first pro year.

Edit: Funnily enough if you do the same exercise but with the U23 WCRR then only 5 out of 12 riders made profit.
Quintana was a special case though. He was staying in Colombia for an extra year after his Avenir win which made it obvious that he had a hard ceiling and wasn't going to be a good pick. Pretty wild to think about how much the transition from juniors/u23s has changed in the decade since. If he had come through the ranks in the last couple seasons he probably would have signed with a top WT team (or at least their dev team) by the time he turned 19.

It makes sense that the U23 Worlds winner gives a less consistent return. The most talented riders are usually in the WT (and thus ineligible to race) by the time they are good enough to win it so it's often won by guys that stick around in the U23 category the longest and those guys project more as solid pros than true superstars.
 
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Yes, while Hugo's method is a fun attempt, there's really no way of making a general assumption about this pre-game. I think it was maybe @Armchair cyclist (or was it statistics guru Skibby?) who once made a post-season calculation of which riders made the biggest difference to the optimal team and came up with a 'penalty' for not having them. I.e. if you took out a rider from the optimal team, how much worse would it be? That was probably the most objective way you could look at it.

In practice, rare riders with huge seasons like De Lie 2022, Colbrelli 2021 and Teuns 2017 have single-handedly given their backers a good chance of being quite high up the standings. Things like having Roglic last year was of course a pre-requisite for being in the fight for a high placing, so he was obviously important in that respect, but he didn't really have a say in who won the game. That was down to rare picks like Healy and Kuss for BITB. Even when fauniera won the game while having the highest popularity ranking, you can say it was rare pick Uran that really made the difference. The more rare a rider is, I guess there's less chance that he'll be canceled out by equally good picks on other teams. Even though a good Hayter or Girmay could be important for getting a high placing, they'll be shared by half the teams and dont't say too much about whether you finish 1st or 50th.

Don't know if I'm even trying to make any point with this rambling, but the conclusion is, I guess, that everything is a bit too complex to assign big importance to any one pick or picks pre-game.

Pre-game, the only thing you can do with some confidence is maybe looking at head-to-head between specific teams. But even then, it's very possible that f.ex. my Pidcock and EITB's Ayuso cancel each other out, and that Oldani becoming Canola reincarnated or Vuillermoz partying like it's 2017 becomes the difference-maker. But @Earns1985 is right about how expensive picks have a bigger chance of rendering a big chunk of your budget 'unused', so to speak.
Yep you can't really predict beforehand which riders is going to outperform expectations the most. Otherwise everybody would pick those dudes instead of them being selected half the time. At best you could look at managers that have consistently overperformed the field (like yourself or skidmark) and see if they have riders that they pick a lot more/less often than the rest of the field and use that to slightly adjust expectations for those riders. I remember doing a quick analysis that Roglic was way more popular with veterans of the game than the rest of the field last season and that turned out to be the right choice. But I haven't looked at anyone else so it might just be a coincidence.
 
Alright, well with no update as of yet, I’ve finally had a bit of some time to actually go over my team, so might as well post the first half of it - from most popular to least. Thanks in advance for indulging my long-windedness, I just gotta do it, this is my release after all the prep for this game.

Nairo Quintana (50 points, 78 teams): certainly an obvious pick, but I don’t think a game-breaking one if you don’t have him. Honestly, I expect a step down from his couple of Arkea years, so 400-600 points would be the ballpark. That’s great for a 50-point rider, but it’s more like a free space in the middle of a bingo card. It’s good to have that, but you still have to have all the right numbers on your other squares. Someone like a Healy 2023, or a De Lie 2022, or a Moser 2012, those are more like a whole line off your bingo card all at once.

Richard Carapaz (496, 69): Beyond the “usually gets points >> got less points >> will get more points” formulation, Carapaz is a great triple threat to pick in this game – that is, he can reliably score points in 1 day races/stages, short stage races, or GTs. That is the best kind of ‘cover your bases’ floor you want in your picks. I also gotta have a soft spot for a rider that’s a) from a non-traditional cycling power nation, and b) is usually not the absolute best, but sometimes beats the best by being plucky and aggressive and tactically astute. It’ll be fun to cheer him for both game and fandom reasons.

Thymen Arensman (283, 64): This one is nothing more than the ‘usually gets points >> got less points >> will get more points”. I know very little about him and I haven’t been compelled to find out. The only hitch is the first part of the formulation is actually more ‘got a bunch more points 1 time’, but a 1000 point upside is a little too risky to miss in my estimation. Finishing a second GT and getting a decent result in at least 1 stage race would be enough to make him a fine pick.

Dani Martinez (279, 60): Honestly, the reason I picked him is this. Going into 2022, both him and Higuita were coming off of bad years, and I searched and searched and couldn’t find any real reason for either of them. So I shied away from both, and both had monster years. Then the exact same thing happened this year. I think I was still too pained from that experience to repeat it, so picking one of them is solely to cover the psychic wound from that experience.

Archie Ryan (45, 56): The fact that he’s the 5th most popular rider in the game is a real sign that people are really coming to play in the CQ game these days! He’s neither well known nor particularly hyped as far as I know, but he’s exactly the kind of rider that used to be a good under-the-radar pick for many years in this game, having a low score that looks like he didn’t achieve much, deterring people from seeing that he proved himself quite well the year before and then had bad luck last year. So I guess I don’t need to explain the pick since most of you seem to know it!

Ben Turner (158, 54): He looked consistently strong in a bunch of races last year, but it kept going pear-shaped. Is he going to be the pre-2018 Geraint Thomas of this game, always luring people in with the siren song of ‘but if he stays upright’ only to be The One Who Does Not Stay Upright? If so, he’s got 2 more years before I stop picking him. Tops.

Johannes Staune-Mittet (108, 53): I’m lukewarm about his prospects as a top-tier GC contender, but with a few spots left in my team and a specific budget to meet, he hit the sweet spot and was the best option available there.

Andrew August (0, 53): Because I had a few expensive/mid-expensive guys, I had to round out with some cheapies, and the availability at the lower end of things included Matt Walls and Henri Vandenabeele, two guys who’d burned me for two years in a row, and Santi Umba, whose combo of ‘hyped by Savio a few years ago’ + ‘being brought in by Astana’ was not one that I loved. As has been noted, zero point juniors aren’t usually a great haul, but as far as that goes, his stage race results were all in the single digit placings last year including a win and 2nd to Nordhagen, and he won a one-day junior race by 6.5 minutes. So that’s enough for me to take a flier and think he’ll be closer to first year Cian than Michael Leonard or something.

Amaury Capiot (10, 50): 18 days of racing last year, seems his surgery has put his knee issues at bay for at least a couple of years, so should be a solid few hundred.

Biniam Girmay (456, 48): I have seen a few comments to the effect that he had no explanation for his dropoff relative to the year prior, and initially I disagreed, as he basically got ran over at Flanders and had a concussion that kept him out for two months. But he still got in more days than 2022; and the Flanders crash came after a good start to the season but bad luck in E3 (mechanicals etc) but also an inexplicable disappearance in Gent-Wevelgem. And he did have some successes after his crash – notably, he just completely obliterated the likes of Van Aert and Demare on a sprint finish in Suisse… but then Zubeldia’d the Tour, if Zubeldia was a sprinter. So it is a bit of a strange one in terms of the narrative. But I’ve gotta think this is the baseline kind of year (apart from even worse crashes), and his talent will shine through given enough opportunities over the season.

Isaac Del Toro (124, 47): An Avenir winner plus 3rd in Aosta, plus top 10s in the other two stage races he did this year? Plus from a non-traditional cycling power? Sold.

Andrea Piccolo (94, 47): He served my team well two years ago, and he’s still young and the talent didn’t go away, so even though I can’t find anything in particular as to why his year was so bad, I’ve gotta believe he’ll bounce back to be a good pick at this price.

Ethan Hayter (476, 45): A rider just 25 years old that already has 2 1000-point seasons under his belt, who can top 10 most stage races without high altitude, who can top 10 both RR and TT Worlds (and by extension Olys), who is very handy in a reduced sprint, who just broke his collarbone twice in fairly quick succession last season but still had the grit to bounce back and have a strong end of year, and he costs less than half of his last two years? Sign me up. I am gobsmacked that he is this far down in the popularity list.

Egan Bernal (262, 43): The optimistic way to look at his 2023 is that he took himself out for a test drive in the early season and could still compete for top 10 GC places against good fields of riders; then once he showed himself that he was there but not quite at winning form yet, he just buried himself in race days to rebuild his engine. That’s kind of what I got through interviews. Pessimistic way to look at it is that he’s a slightly better and younger Froome. I’ve seen enough to believe in him for another year yet (plus it’s easy to cheer for a comeback story).

Cian Uijtdebroeks (574, 40): His progression as a rider has been clear over two years, and with a similar progression this year he should be a worthwhile pick. The off-road drama resulted in him going to Visma, which kind of sealed the deal for me in terms of picking him – they’re the best team in the world right now at developing and moulding GC talents (see: former ski jumper, former fish factory worker) so they should be the best place to land for a sensitive youngster whose flaw (according to reporting) appears to be that he’s exceedingly fastidious about optimizing race prep. If he had had his first two seasons in 2017 and 2018 we’d all be talking about how we’ve never seen anything like it before from someone this young, so that makes him a marginally good pick in 2024. Cycling is fun these days hey?

Luke Plapp (341, 40): I mean, he’s shown world class talent, just not much after months that end in ‘uary’. Seems like he’s gotta figure that out sometime soon – there are a lot more months!

Juan Ayuso (1023, 39): Tour de France, shmoor de shmance. He’s a generational talent who will do well at whatever he does. I mean, last year he was out for the first third of the season, and then came in cold and did Romandie (stage win, 12th overall), Suisse (2 stages, 2nd overall), Spanish Nationals, two Spanish 1.1s and San Sebastien, the Vuelta (4th overall), and a DNF at Emilia. That’s it, that’s the season, and he got 1023. That’s nuts!! I’m super interested at UAE’s Tour strategy of ‘throw everything at the wall and see what sticks’ – it might actually be the most effective way to break Jumbo, to attack and isolate Ving early, or risk sending a genuine threat like Ayuso or Almeida up the road. Anyway, this is the CQ game, not the ‘I’m excited for this year’s TDF’ game. But I am also excited for this year’s TDF!

I'll stop there - second half to come!
 
Ethan Hayter (476, 45): A rider just 25 years old that already has 2 1000-point seasons under his belt, who can top 10 most stage races without high altitude, who can top 10 both RR and TT Worlds (and by extension Olys), who is very handy in a reduced sprint, who just broke his collarbone twice in fairly quick succession last season but still had the grit to bounce back and have a strong end of year, and he costs less than half of his last two years? Sign me up. I am gobsmacked that he is this far down in the popularity list.
For me Hayter was in a tricky spot, with a few other viable picks.

I chose Carapaz, Girmay and Higuita.

Cosnefroy being another omission.

Anyway, with Hayter it depends on the schedule he will ride or how much his focus will be on the Olympics. He won a silver medal last time on the track.

Most of his stage-racing points come from races like Bartali, Algarve, Tour of Norway, Tour of Britain, Tour de Polonge and Tour of Guangxi. Possible he might score many points if he only rides those sorts of races, but if he rides some other WT-races and only goes for stages + focus on Olympics it could be disappointing. I got unsure on the profit margin.

Without his score in Tour of Guangxi, at the end of last season, I would have probably picked him. He would have probably been far more popular in this game if he hadnt.
 
After Nys who is starting pretty late in the season and will miss out the classics, it seems that I have already the second regret in my team.

The hopeful sprint talent Tobias Lund Andresen is scheduled to be lead-out rider for Jakobsen in the giro. :mad:

Thought, that after Dainese and Welsford went, there would be even more chances for him to ride on his own and not less.

Damn, riders should really encouraged to publish their schedules and season targets before the submission deadline of this game.
 
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Ah, yes. Now it seems like a pretty bad pick if he's skipping all the spring classics. :( Is this because his focus lies outside the road for this year?
Focus on the CX WC in Tabor and after that going for training camp with the team. Next year he will do the classic season
 
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After Nys who is starting pretty late in the season and will miss out the classics, it seems that I have already the second regret in my team.

The hopeful sprint talent Tobias Lund Andresen is scheduled to be lead-out rider for Jakobsen in the giro. :mad:

Thought, that after Dainese and Welsford went, there would be even more chances for him to ride on his own and not less.

Damn, riders should really encouraged to publish their schedules and season targets before the submission deadline of this game.
I wasn't sure him or van Uden or both will be in his train so i picked neither. Without Jakobsen at DSM both would be obvious picks
 

I wasn't sure him or van Uden or both will be in his train so i picked neither. Without Jakobsen at DSM both would be obvious picks
Yes, I was also between him and van Uden. Had van Uden last year, but Lund Andresen had the better results last year. So I thought, that he will have a better chance to be sprinter Nr.2 in the team this year.
Let´s see how it will come in the end. Bol was also scheduled last year as lead-out rider for Cavendish, but in the end scored pretty well. But grand-tour as lead out rider for a sprinter is really the worst thing CQ wise.. A lot of racing days are gone without the expectation to score there.. When you are the second GC rider in a team in a tour, it´s still possible, that you can gain GC points in the end, if you don´t have to sacrifice yourself that much.
 
Yes, I was also between him and van Uden. Had van Uden last year, but Lund Andresen had the better results last year. So I thought, that he will have a better chance to be sprinter Nr.2 in the team this year.
Let´s see how it will come in the end. Bol was also scheduled last year as lead-out rider for Cavendish, but in the end scored pretty well. But grand-tour as lead out rider for a sprinter is really the worst thing CQ wise.. A lot of racing days are gone without the expectation to score there.. When you are the second GC rider in a team in a tour, it´s still possible, that you can gain GC points in the end, if you don´t have to sacrifice yourself that much.
Well now i am disappointed too. I knew there was a risk but I though he was so good it would be worth it. And he wasn't the cheapest rider to land either. I guess things could change be now and then. I also got burned by Nys so we are not having a good start. I went with these types of riders instead of GT riders. So far it is back firing.
 
For me Hayter was in a tricky spot, with a few other viable picks.

I chose Carapaz, Girmay and Higuita.

Cosnefroy being another omission.

Anyway, with Hayter it depends on the schedule he will ride or how much his focus will be on the Olympics. He won a silver medal last time on the track.

Most of his stage-racing points come from races like Bartali, Algarve, Tour of Norway, Tour of Britain, Tour de Polonge and Tour of Guangxi. Possible he might score many points if he only rides those sorts of races, but if he rides some other WT-races and only goes for stages + focus on Olympics it could be disappointing. I got unsure on the profit margin.

Without his score in Tour of Guangxi, at the end of last season, I would have probably picked him. He would have probably been far more popular in this game if he hadnt.
Come on! Don't leave us hanging! You gave us the more obvious ones, but I'm curious about the other half of your team. So far our teams ar every similar, although I bailed on Ayuso to get more depth (could really haunt me) and skipped Del Toro.
 
Still no update, so I had time to finish the second half of my team rundown...

Luke Lamperti (176, 39): The Wolfpack may have become a less powerful collective over the last couple of years after capitulating to a single GC-oriented Alpha, but I’m not done believing in Lefevre’s ability to maximize the potential of young classics and sprint talent. Lamperti himself convinced me to take him in an interview when he noted he was basically #2 behind Merlier in the sprinters at the team. That both speaks to the change in perspective that’s made QST a bit less of a guarantee for picking riders in the game, and to the fact that he’ll have opportunities in the smaller races with a support network that’s still solid, if not head and shoulders above everyone else like it used to be.

Antonio Morgado (132, 37): I’m not sure exactly what to expect from him in his neo year. Last year, of course he got 2nd at the U23 worlds, and he was pretty much at the top of most of the races on his calendar, but the big 3 marquee stage races for U23s (Giro, Aosta, Avenir) he rode all 3 and got no results. So I expect a bit of a learning curve to the highest level, but the upside is enough to take him.

Thomas Gloag (171, 33): He had a great start to last year, then got parachuted into the Giro on literally hours’ notice, did the whole thing to understandably anonymous personal results, took a long break, did San Sebastien and immediately got hit by a car in training and ended his season. It’s been hard to find info on what he’s aiming for this year or even how he’s doing, but I trust what I saw in the early season last year.

Axel Laurance (187, 31): I almost took him for over 300 last year despite his devo team contract, figuring his big result in a WT race augured well for consistent success. Glad I didn’t, but again his U23 Worlds win showed a solid strength that I can hope translates to more dates on the calendar. And at a cheaper price!

Michael Valgren (89, 27): Valgren was one of those picks for years that I always considered after a down year, but couldn’t trust. Now he’s coming back from a major, major setback, and used 2023 to build back up – again, I’m a sucker for a comeback story. But he a) is cheap enough to take a flyer on, and b) showed some decent results by the end of the year. So I think a few hundred is definitely possible.

Darren Rafferty (103, 26): A decent heuristic I have to choose someone for my team is if you finish 1st and 2nd in two of the three marquee U23 stage races and don’t cost too much, you’re worth taking. If that’s the case, I can take a look to see if there are any other red flags, but really don’t need to overcomplicate it.

Carlos Rodriguez (810, 24): One of the key riders on my team, both in the process of choosing it and also the outcome. Ayuso was more of a no-brainer, but taking a chance on someone else this expensive is a bit more deliberative. I thought about Gregoire (worried that bigger races would mean a higher level would not translate to points as he’d sacrifice the #1 points of his lower level wins in 2023) and Demare (getting older, lower ceiling despite the team switch), or just going with a few riders with lower price. But ultimately, what got me about C-Rod is the same as what I said about Carapaz. He’s a triple threat – he just always delivers in 1-days, weeklong stage races, and GTs. Rodriguez was top 20 in every 1-day he finished in 2023, and top 10 in every stage race. 2022, similar story (15th in Catalunya and 37th in Itzulia, and two 1-day results being the exceptions). That dependability is key for a rider this expensive, as I know even if his schedule gets disrupted he’ll make the most of the chances he gets. Plus he’s 22 years old still! Improving his 5th in the Tour would be a bit of a pipe dream with the big 4 there, but turning his 5th and 7th in Lombardia the last 2 years into a podium? Being healthy and getting a result in Liege? Pulling in points from the Olys/Worlds? The possibilities are broad.

Emil Herzog (4, 23): I shied away from him as he didn’t seem to handle the step up to even U23 very well, despite two dominant years as a junior, suggesting he might need a year or two at the pros (if he can even hang – is he another Silvio Herklotz?) But after I was convinced by my own long-winded logic to take the above-mentioned Rodriguez and his 810 points, I needed some cheap lottery tickets and hey why not.

Tobias Foss (197, 20): He really had a horrorshow of a year, with 36 days racing. He’s finished top 10 in a GT and won a worlds TT, and even in bad years pulls out form at some point. I’m just hoping for some consistency, and if not, he’s got both World and Oly TTs to pull a rabbit out of his hat – 250 for first in either would put him in profit! I kid, I kid, that was a one-off. But he can pull out a podium on a good day, and if he can actually ride a GT solidly he’ll be a good pick.

Leo Hayter (97, 18): I have not been able to find no info – during the season or after – as to why he only raced 29 days, and barely anything after a promising result in Coppi e Bartali in March. But he was a rider I had some belief in to include in my cheap sweep at the end when I needed to get x more riders for y more points.

Fracesco Busatto (186, 16): I actually know little about him, I was just taken in by his range of decent placings in 1-day races all over the calendar. It’s easy to forecast a few better results with a step up to WT team support. I was also drawn in by the appeal of his extensive racing calendar already being laid out on his PCS page – I don’t even care what he’s racing, it’s just easy to look at a bunch of race days and think “wow that’s a lot of chances for points”. I wasn’t thinking at my highest level by the time I added him, but I still think he’s a good add.

Alexy Faure Prost (36, 14): I worry that he’s a little young and needs another year before being a worthwhile pick. He definitely seemed to struggle in his pro races later in the season. But top 5 in both Aosta and Giro at least suggests some pedigree and consistency, so when filling out the last spots on the team with lower budget riders, I don’t mind taking a chance.

William Junior Lecerf (182, 13): A bit on the expensive side for a neo who isn’t a guarantee by any means, but he had enough consistency in stage races (including a top 5 in Avenir) and enough promise in 1-day races (won baby Lombardia, 11th in Piemonte with the pros) that I feel he’s a solid enough choice. I was a bit worried so many of his points came from Rwanda but turns out he’s doing it again so hopefully that’s replicable.

Gil Gelders (56, 10): I didn’t think much of including him in the team until I had to look for cheaper riders to finish the roster, but the more I looked the more I liked him as a pick. Admittedly I haven’t seen him race, I’m just going off of the pattern of his results, but he won U23 Gent Wevelgem solo, got 7th out of 13 in the finale of U23 LBL, won an 18-rider sprint for 2nd in U23 P-R, held off the pack by 6 seconds in a hilly finish of a Giro stage, and had some alright results in the 2nd half of the season. Always being there across a variety of terrains is a good baseline for someone to get some results at QST. A bit of an unknown factor to me but that’s a good results pattern.

Davide Piganzoli (177, 7): The last addition to my team. Again, haven’t seen him race much, but third in Avenir is an eye-catcher, and consistently decent placings make him a ‘why not’ choice. A brace of top 20s and 30s in almost 10 year-end Italian classics – including finishing in a group with Barguil, Madouas and Majka in Lombardia – is a good indicator that he has the consistency to be a decent pick if he gets those placings a little higher in 2024.

Zeb Kyffin (107, 2): I had no idea who this guy was before the team-building process, just noted him down as a curious rider on my longlist. First year scoring any CQ points and he’s 25 years old, despite 5 years showing up in the database? Moving to Pro Conti? Then I found this article where he discusses racing a continental team schedule while working a more-than-full time job until the end of 2022, with 2023 being the first year he gave it a real go. 6th in the ToB ahead of some pretty decent riders is promising, and I mostly am interested in the upside of such a raw potential talent. Plus it’s a fun story, so that’s always a good tiebreaker!
 
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