The 2024 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

[ingsve]

Thanks...have to admit I'm surprised no-one else picked Narvaez. Without a couple of badly timed crashes last year he would easily have scored some 300 points more.

I think it's that he has scored those 300ish points 4 different seasons so it does look like his level at a quick glance.

 

[bminchow]

Cracked 750 points already. Easily my best start to a season and I guess I must be at least in the hunt now. Encouraging signs from Alaphilippe this week and Del Toro showing great profit already ... though he is in a lot of teams. No riders in Spain today, but a few contenders in Majorca. Looking forward to an update now.
Little tip of the cap to Williams, who rode for my team in 2021, and gave me a nice little profit.

750? Wow. I think i got 120 or so. No Del Toro = bad Bob, bad.

 

[armchairclimber]

750? Wow. I think i got 120 or so. No Del Toro = bad Bob, bad.

Ah we all have regrets. Pierre Gautherat was a very late omission from my team ... and he scored good points in Spain today.

This week in Majorca I have

Van Wilder
Lamperti
Herzog
Beloki
Nerurka
Vandenabeele

 

[Riverside]

Michael Matthews got his first win, 80 points, semi-unique pick (2 of us picked him), well, at least something to cheer about considering how pathetic I'm in TDU

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Michael Matthews got his first win, 80 points, semi-unique pick (2 of us picked him), well, at least something to cheer about considering how pathetic I'm in TDU

Wasn't all that close to picking him myself, but it was a big surprise to me that he's that rare in this game.

And now we hope and pray that CQ finally graces us with an update tomorrow/Tuesday, otherwise I'm not sure how @skidmark is supposed to keep the game going...

 

[Anderis]

otherwise I'm not sure how @skidmark is supposed to keep the game going...

Maybe it would be better to switch to PCS Ranking in the coming years? Or is their database not as convenient to work with as CQ?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Maybe it would be better to switch to PCS Ranking in the coming years? Or is their database not as convenient to work with as CQ?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think PCS do Excel (or other) downloads.

 

[Anderis]

I have no idea, that's why I asked the second question in my post. But this --> https://forum.cyclingnews.com/threads/a-browser-cycling-manager-game-with-real-life-riders.33789/ game has prices based on PCS points so I guess it's possible to get to their data somehow.

 

[repre]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think PCS do Excel (or other) downloads.

Maybe we won't need excel download if we'll get 21th century live updates)

 

[Samu Cuenca]

For my game, I simply copied the points from their ranking into the spreadsheet, but skidmark's is obviously much more advanced than mine and also has a lot more teams and riders to keep track of.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

In the women's CQ, downloadable tables are only made available a handful of times a year. The alternative is to go through the table and copy and paste a screenful at a time (100 riders). I have committed to doing that for the Women's game, but I have made it clear that updates will be about once every 3 weeks, and dependent on my time availability: I am in no way suggesting that Skidmark should undertake that for the men's game. At the moment it wouldn't be too bad, but by the end of the year there can be about 30 pages' worth, which is some very tedious copying and pasting.

But it's probably too early to declare that there is a problem.

 

[Squire]

If we have some programming wizards here, it would probably not be a super hard task to write something that fetches the results from the CQ website, but at least the initial setup of such a system would be a bit more complicated than skidmark 'just' maintaining a spreadsheet.

Anyway, let's hope it's just CQ having taken an extended Christmas holiday and that they'll be back with the updates now that the season has started properly. Keep in mind they did combine two weeks at the tail end of last season too, so maybe they're just slacking a bit in very quiet periods.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

In the women's CQ, downloadable tables are only made available a handful of times a year. The alternative is to go through the table and copy and paste a screenful at a time (100 riders). I have committed to doing that for the Women's game, but I have made it clear that updates will be about once every 3 weeks, and dependent on my time availability: I am in no way suggesting that Skidmark should undertake that for the men's game. At the moment it wouldn't be too bad, but by the end of the year there can be about 30 pages' worth, which is some very tedious copying and pasting.

But it's probably too early to declare that there is a problem.

Yeah, it could be done for the first update perhaps, but it would quickly become a lot of work after that.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Of course, I was severely limited by only having Danes, but it would have been nice if Price-Pejtersen would have... not hit a pole during the final stage!

One of those things standing by the road, you idiots! Maciejuk was not involved.

He was in good company:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1749142999227871401

View: https://twitter.com/_pabloj51_/status/1749142999227871401

 

[ingsve]

Decent amount of riders active the coming week.

Surf Coast Classic
Archie Ryan
Biniam Girmay

Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race
Archie Ryan
Biniam Girmay

Mallorca one day races
Alexandr Vlasov
Michael Valgren
Darren Rafferty
Henri Vandenabeele
Gianni Moscon
Jan Christen
Johannes Kulset

Colombia Nationals
Egan Bernal
Sergio Higuita
Daniel Martinez
Nairo Quintana

GP Marseillaise
Alec Segaert
Markus Hoelgaard
Andreas Leknesund

So half the team active pretty much.

 

[Jpettersen]

If we have some programming wizards here, it would probably not be a super hard task to write something that fetches the results from the CQ website, but at least the initial setup of such a system would be a bit more complicated than skidmark 'just' maintaining a spreadsheet.

Anyway, let's hope it's just CQ having taken an extended Christmas holiday and that they'll be back with the updates now that the season has started properly. Keep in mind they did combine two weeks at the tail end of last season too, so maybe they're just slacking a bit in very quiet periods.

No wizard, but I do have a little bit of experience working with R. I haven’t fiddled around with fetching data from websites beforehand, but with some help from Chat GPT, I rather quickly made this “script” that fetches data from the CQ website and saves it as an excel file. I am sure there are other ways to do this, but hey, it works, and it is pretty easy to run if you have RStudio installed. It can also easily be used for the women’s CQ (it can probably save you some time, Armchair cyclist ).

I am not very (at all) active in discussions here, but considering I have participated in the game since the beginning, I thought I might as well contribute in some other way. 😉

Here is a link to download the R script.

RStudio can be downloaded here: https://posit.co/download/rstudio-desktop/

Whoever finds it useful is welcome to write if you have any questions.

 

[bminchow]

Surf Coast Classic
Archie Ryan (don't see Archie on the list yet)
Biniam Girmay - maybe a winner

Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race
Archie Ryan
Biniam Girmay - maybe a winner
PLAPP Lucas - please be well enough to ride and get me some points
SIMMONS Quinn

Mallorca one day races
BARONCINI Filippo
HODEG Alvaro Jose
VALGREN Michael
VANSEVENANT Mauri - my only hope for points

Colombia Nationals no, Tour Of Colombia
CARAPAZ Richard - one of these four will win it (sorry Egan)
PICCOLO Andrea (not Colombian)
Daniel Martinez
Nairo Quintana

GP Marseillaise
Alec Segaert - good place for him
LAURANCE Axel - good place for him

 

[will-10]

Maybe it would be better to switch to PCS Ranking in the coming years? Or is their database not as convenient to work with as CQ?

blasphemy.

 

[ingsve]

Surf Coast Classic
Archie Ryan (don't see Archie on the list yet)

Global Cycling Network has the full start list for Surf Coast Classic which I assume is correct.

Start List for Surf Coast Classic - Elite Men - 25 January 2024

Latest cycling news, results & race start list for Surf Coast Classic 2024 - Elite Men - 155 km.

www.globalcyclingnetwork.com

 

[RedheadDane]

Neither Bahrain, nor Quickstep are staying in Australia for the one-day races, which... probably wouldn't have made much of a difference for me anyway...

 

[skidmark]

Good news - update is up on CQ! I will be posting the first update in the next couple of hours.

 

[postmanhat]

Decent amount of riders active the coming week.



So half the team active pretty much.

Had forgotten how much fun the first few weeks of the season are. Three stage races for the next two weeks, and four for the one leading up to Omloop, plus a fair few one-dayers. Pretty much everyone should get started, except perhaps the elite GC and classics riders?

Mainly picked Plapp to finally get a nice result at the TDU, but it remains a cursed race for me. Not expecting much from the remaining Ozzie races, but a promising start for Oldani in Spain at least.

Surf Classic
Simmons
Lopez
Battistella
Ryan

Cadel Evans
Battistella
Simmons
Lopez
Ryan
Plapp(?)

Mallorca
Louvel
Johanessen
Oldani
Valgren
Vandenabeele
Thomas B

Marseillaise
Oldani
Vauquelin
Capiot
Segaert
Vliegen

Mainly hoping that my most expensive gamble (Johanessen) can get some early points to ease my nerves.

 

[postmanhat]

Got 5 out of 5 so far for stage wins from my boys. Just need Onley or Del Toro to seal the deal in the GC to reel in some big points.

First big race in your first participation in the game. That's a ludicrously good debut.

 

[postmanhat]

I think it's that he has scored those 300ish points 4 different seasons so it does look like his level at a quick glance.

Yes, I really like Narvaez and have had him before. Reminds me of Van Baarle who got between 335-379 CQ points for six out of seven seasons, before becoming one of the best classics riders in the world. Maybe this is Narvaez's breakout season in terms of results...and probably moving to TVLB

 

[ingsve]

Yes, I really like Narvaez and have had him before. Reminds me of Van Baarle who got between 335-379 CQ points for six out seven seasons, before becoming one of the classics riders in the world. Maybe this is Narvaez's breakout season in terms of results...and probably moving to TVLB

Ya, that's the hardest type of rider to pick in this game. Normally you either pick the one who had a bad year who can bounce back of the one on an upward trajectory. Managing to predict someone suddenly springing up from an established level is a hard gamble. Possibly if there is a very favorable team shift could it be predicted.