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Nothing when the greatest is fricking UAE Tour.
Dont forget the San Sebastians! Lol. They love to bring those up.
Or a few non World Tour stage races.Including 180k semi classics to spec up a palmares
What are you smoking Today? 5 monuments + WC vs 3, 9 podiums vs 3. Remco's Vuelta and ITT win is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your comparison. I won't rule out Evenepoels palmares will be bigger in a couple of years time but right now it's just isn't.
Lol, what am i smoking? We are talking about palmares of the best riders, so we are counting mainly wins, not podiums. Compare total wins, compare WT wins. The only edge MvdP has is that he has won 2 more monuments. If you think a Vuelta + WCC ITT is doing a lot of heavy lifting, i would argue the exact same about those 2 monuments in your comparison.
www.procyclingstats.com
www.procyclingstats.com
It is no contest.
Ah, the ranking that has Cavendish ahead of Contador, Boonen, Pogi, Froome, Rogla, Gilbert and Cancellara.Lol, what am i smoking? We are talking about palmares of the best riders, so we are counting mainly wins, not podiums. Compare total wins, compare WT wins. The only edge MvdP has is that he has won 2 more monuments. If you think a Vuelta + WCC ITT is doing a lot of heavy lifting, i would argue the exact same about those 2 monuments in your comparison.
Vuelta + WCC + WCC ITT + LBL x 2 is roughly on par with WCC + RVV x2 + MSR + PR
On top of that Evenepoel has more total wins, as well as more WT wins. The rest is comparing a classics rider to GC rider. Evenepoel less 2nd/3rd tier classics, but (way) more GT stagewins and lower tier GC's.
If you don't think that is enough to put Evenepoel at the very least on par with Van der Poel, feel free to take the comparison even further.
More career total points, more points per km.Remco Evenepoel versus Mathieu van der Poel
Head to head career results between Remco Evenepoel and Mathieu van der Poel. The overal score is 54.8% for Remco Evenepoel versus 45.2% for Mathieu van der Poel. A comparison on same race results, time trial points and the points per age.
Or at the All time ranking where only one of them is in the top 100:
Who is the best rider of alltime?
The ProCyclingStats alltime ranking is led by Eddy Merckx with 3850.9 points, before Sean Kelly (2158.2 points) and Francesco Moser (2126.6 points). Considering the enormous gap between Merckx and Kelly (1692.7) we can conclude that Merckx is the best rider of all time.
Indeed you are not. But feel free to back it up with arguments instead of memes or drive by posts. In big wins they are tied. Say 2x LBL cancel out 2x RVV. Then you are left with comparing MSR + PR to Vuelta + WCC ITT. I think it's fair to say a GT is still quite a bit higher than a monument, so that makes up for the "lesser" win of a WCC ITT. Then you look at all the other wins, and it doesn't really improve for MvdP.
You cant make this up. It is just hilarious.
The WCTT is not on the level of monuments and GTs. Big wins are the three GTs, the five monuments, the WCRR & OGRR.
Nor am i claiming it is. If you cared to read what i wrote, you would have seen i said as much. But a GT is still worth more than a monument.
| WCC Road | WCC Road |
| 2x RVV | 2x LBL |
| MSR + PR | Vuelta + WCC ITT |
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