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Lars Boom punched a rider, chased him across the road and then grabbed his helmet and shook him. Andriy Grivko hit another rider hard enough to split his eyebrow open. Moscon waved his hand at a rider as he passed him and brushed his helmet. They're not really comparable. Honestly, I think removal from the Tour and a warning that any other incident would get a harsh punishment would have been enough. I don't particularly care that he's got a suspension, but I think it possibly sets a dangerous precedent.
Kazistuta said:
Lars Boom punched a rider, chased him across the road and then grabbed his helmet and shook him. Andriy Grivko hit another rider hard enough to split his eyebrow open. Moscon waved his hand at a rider as he passed him and brushed his helmet. They're not really comparable. Honestly, I think removal from the Tour and a warning that any other incident would get a harsh punishment would have been enough. I don't particularly care that he's got a suspension, but I think it possibly sets a dangerous precedent.
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could be.
also, if Moscon didnt ride for Sky, he´d get 2-3% less flack than what he´s getting
hrotha said:
could be.
also, if Moscon didnt ride for Sky, he´d get 2-3% less flack than what he´s getting
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oh no, the irony is if it wasn't a sky rider half the people on this thread wouldn't care...hrotha said:
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That's just not true. I think very lowly of Bouhanni as well which has absolutely nothing to do with him riding for Cofidis.
And which other riders do you think have behaved comparably to Moscon and have received forgiveness?
The only thing I find a little unnecessary is that people also call him a proven cheater after what he did at the worlds. That's just too normal to get worked up about, I would say. Racism, retaliation violence and temper violence are not.
rick james said:
That's just not true. I think very lowly of Bouhanni as well which has absolutely nothing to do with him riding for Cofidis.
And which other riders do you think have behaved comparably to Moscon and have received forgiveness?
The only thing I find a little unnecessary is that people also call him a proven cheater after what he did at the worlds. That's just too normal to get worked up about, I would say. Racism, retaliation violence and temper violence are not.
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I dont think they make their decision based on "how hard was he hit?"...
No point in arguing more since thats the ban he received. Hopefully he will learn and be able to focus on racing and not let small things put him off or make him lose his calm again.
King Boonen said:
I dont think they make their decision based on "how hard was he hit?"...
No point in arguing more since thats the ban he received. Hopefully he will learn and be able to focus on racing and not let small things put him off or make him lose his calm again.
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You people still haven't put both the Sky trolls on ignore?
If the mods won't ban them for blatant trolling, just ignore them
Also, what's your avatar pic from? That's Fois, VDB and...?
hrotha said:
You people still haven't put both the Sky trolls on ignore?
If the mods won't ban them for blatant trolling, just ignore them
Also, what's your avatar pic from? That's Fois, VDB and...?
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It's nice to see that people still remember poor Valentino Fois.
Camenzind.GuyIncognito said:
It's nice to see that people still remember poor Valentino Fois.
Maybe he should be given a new nickname ...a very infamous guy got the same nickname as him and look where he ended up 
.....taoism will be ideal for him
.....taoism will be ideal for him 
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Lars Boom was banned recently for a similar incident. This has nothing to do with Team Sky.
rick james said:
Lars Boom was banned recently for a similar incident. This has nothing to do with Team Sky.
Il Trattore hard at work! There is a job to be done (before Il Lombardia!).oldcrank said:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BnGHnF2A9Ex/?hl=en&taken-by-giannimoscon
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/moscon-on-tour-de-france-expulsion-i-didnt-do-anything/
Why issue an apology when there was no wrongdoing???
Why issue an apology when there was no wrongdoing???
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Because he was told to..?
IndianCyclist said:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/moscon-on-tour-de-france-expulsion-i-didnt-do-anything/
Why issue an apology when there was no wrongdoing???
Because he was told to..?
That apology was perhaps the worst I have ever seen. He hadn't even bothered to learn the name of the rider he had punched and had to look down at a paper in front of him at the moment he was supposed to mention him.
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to keep irate, anti sky fans happy...everything sky does is blown of proportionIndianCyclist said:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/moscon-on-tour-de-france-expulsion-i-didnt-do-anything/
Why issue an apology when there was no wrongdoing???
I can't believe people still defend this awful human being, for me any racist incident should result in lifetime ban if he does not show any intention of changing, which he hasn't.
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Which is your opinion and you’re welcome to it, but it doesn’t. He served his “punishment” and he should be treated the same as any other rider. In this incident, I don’t think he was.mosh1992 said:
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If next year he'll have another issue he should be suspended for months even if the actual fact doesn't require such a harsh punishment otherwise he'll never understand.
Anyway what makes me wonder is that he continuously states that the team fully support him when he should have fired him immediately as they said last spring after Reza racial abuse. Well, also Cassani seems to underrate the problem considering the he could even end up leading Italy in both TT and RR in Insbruck.
If you have an "history" of various incident that should be taken in account when you are punished, just like the regular justice work, and not admitting your previous wrongdoing aggravates the situation.King Boonen said:
If next year he'll have another issue he should be suspended for months even if the actual fact doesn't require such a harsh punishment otherwise he'll never understand.
Anyway what makes me wonder is that he continuously states that the team fully support him when he should have fired him immediately as they said last spring after Reza racial abuse. Well, also Cassani seems to underrate the problem considering the he could even end up leading Italy in both TT and RR in Insbruck.
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Nought wrong with some casual aggression towards fellow riders, am I right Rick?rick james said:to keep irate, anti sky fans happy...everything sky does is blown of proportionIndianCyclist said:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/moscon-on-tour-de-france-expulsion-i-didnt-do-anything/
Why issue an apology when there was no wrongdoing???
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worse happens in sprintsLaFlorecita said:Nought wrong with some casual aggression towards fellow riders, am I right Rick?rick james said:to keep irate, anti sky fans happy...everything sky does is blown of proportionIndianCyclist said:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/moscon-on-tour-de-france-expulsion-i-didnt-do-anything/
Why issue an apology when there was no wrongdoing???
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No.
rick james said:worse happens in sprintsLaFlorecita said:Nought wrong with some casual aggression towards fellow riders, am I right Rick?rick james said:to keep irate, anti sky fans happy...everything sky does is blown of proportionIndianCyclist said:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/moscon-on-tour-de-france-expulsion-i-didnt-do-anything/
Why issue an apology when there was no wrongdoing???
No.
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Well, yeah it does. But the context is different. If you can't take the heat in the sprint, you don't have to be there.
The reason Moscon's punch or slap or whatever you'd call it was worse is, that it was so out of the blue.
tobydawq said:
Well, yeah it does. But the context is different. If you can't take the heat in the sprint, you don't have to be there.
The reason Moscon's punch or slap or whatever you'd call it was worse is, that it was so out of the blue.
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