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Teams & Riders The Great Big Cycling Transfers, Extensions, and Rumours Thread

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Solid overall rider, deserved a shot at WT. There are worse riders in the pro peloton. I'd say someone capable of winning a mountain stage in the Tour of Turkey is quite deserving of a WT contract. Not every rider has a breakout season at 21, some like Langelloti improve over the years and maybe he'll improve even more with Ineos.
His career development is very weird

He was 8th in the French junior championship in 2013, signed for burgos as a pro for the 2018 season despite not getting a single notable result in 2014-17, and then somehow kept a contract with burgos despite not doing anything in 2018-21. Outside of that junior race on 2013, his only notable results are from 2022 onwards

The next froom?

“When I was a junior and then an under-23 rider, Team Sky was the dominant and most successful team in cycling, and I grew up in awe of their success. The wins of Bradley Wiggins, Chris Froome, Geraint Thomas, and others inspired me, and I always hoped to be a part of it one day. I still can’t believe that I will join the team that both made me dream and revolutionised our sport."

A man of exquisit taste
 
Don't think you understood my post. I'm not comparing them..
Yeah my bad but Ive read people complaining Visma buying the best etc which I couldn't disagree more so far at least. Simon is far from highest level climbers now also he is old. Zingle is whatever.

I actually think Visma is semi bottom feeding and its telling somewhat (ive read their budget next year already will be significantly lower than previous) Campenaerts was good this Tour though.
UAE is adding from tier ones still while the same so far cannot be said of Jumbo. Significantly difference so far in the quality of riders coming in imo.

Visma so far decent. UAE stellar same with Bora if the rumours are true.
 
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His career development is very weird

He was 8th in the French junior championship in 2013, signed for burgos as a pro for the 2018 season despite not getting a single notable result in 2014-17, and then somehow kept a contract with burgos despite not doing anything in 2018-21. Outside of that junior race on 2013, his only notable results are from 2022 onwards

I think I read somewhere that he'd had some mental health issues, and that the win in Turkey last year was a turning point for him.
 
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Solid overall rider, deserved a shot at WT. There are worse riders in the pro peloton. I'd say someone capable of winning a mountain stage in the Tour of Turkey is quite deserving of a WT contract. Not every rider has a breakout season at 21, some like Langelloti improve over the years and maybe he'll improve even more with Ineos.

Come on, he isn't the signing for a team vying for the top spot in the sport by any stretch of the imagination.
 
His career development is very weird

He was 8th in the French junior championship in 2013, signed for burgos as a pro for the 2018 season despite not getting a single notable result in 2014-17, and then somehow kept a contract with burgos despite not doing anything in 2018-21. Outside of that junior race on 2013, his only notable results are from 2022 onwards

The next froom?

“When I was a junior and then an under-23 rider, Team Sky was the dominant and most successful team in cycling, and I grew up in awe of their success. The wins of Bradley Wiggins, Chris Froome, Geraint Thomas, and others inspired me, and I always hoped to be a part of it one day. I still can’t believe that I will join the team that both made me dream and revolutionised our sport."

A man of exquisit taste

His dad was a top management role of the Monegasque cycling federation, which definitely helped him turn pro and stay at Burgos during his worst years.

It was published he had an addiction to videogames which was not solved until 2022, when he had his breakthrough season with the Volta a Portugal stage win and a brief spell in Vuelta a España KOM.
 
Who are UAE signing apart from Narvaez?

And second question: when is UAE finally going to oversaturate with talent and start losing more talent than signing because of riders searching for opportunities for themselves? They can't keep growing stronger forever...
Florian Vermeersch a few top 10 Roubaix and top 15 flandern age 25 gotte be amongst tier one people under 25 for sure. The injurie lets see how that impacted him or not.

Cash is king and always a good incentive but good question who knows.
 
Who are UAE signing apart from Narvaez?

And second question: when is UAE finally going to oversaturate with talent and start losing more talent than signing because of riders searching for opportunities for themselves? They can't keep growing stronger forever...
I suspect what might happen at some point is that their long contracts for some riders might backfire in case riders start to flop for them while still on a 3-4 year contract. That depends on how the contracts are written I suppose. They might have favorable ways to get out of them without having to pay out the full value of the contract to the rider.
 
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Yeah my bad but Ive read people complaining Visma buying the best etc which I couldn't disagree more so far at least. Simon is far from highest level climbers now also he is old. Zingle is whatever.

I actually think Visma is semi bottom feeding and its telling somewhat (ive read their budget next year already will be significantly lower than previous) Campenaerts was good this Tour though.
UAE is adding from tier ones still while the same so far cannot be said of Jumbo. Significantly difference so far in the quality of riders coming in imo.

Visma so far decent. UAE stellar same with Bora if the rumours are true.
Is Campenaerts leaving? He mentioned contract stuff in his stage win press
 
I suspect what might happen at some point is that their long contracts for some riders might backfire in case riders start to flop for them while still on a 3-4 year contract. That depends on how the contracts are written I suppose. They might have favorable ways to get out of them without having to pay out the full value of the contract to the rider.
To be honest, i think they probably have enough money to just buy them out in that case…
 
To be honest, i think they probably have enough money to just buy them out in that case…
Buying them out of a contract doesn't do much though because you pay the full salary unless the team and rider come to some sort of an agreement of lets say 1 or 2 years of salary paid. I guess its frees up a roster spot, but thats about it. Flat out buying riders out should be avoided.. that would be the equivalent of my Detroit Pistons hiring Monty Williams for 6 years/78 mil$ and them buying him out after one season. Thats just terible business, but I guess if you have enough money..
 
Florian Vermeersch a few top 10 Roubaix and top 15 flandern age 25 gotte be amongst tier one people under 25 for sure. The injurie lets see how that impacted him or not.

Cash is king and always a good incentive but good question who knows.
If your looking to strengthen the tdf team next year Yates and Campenaerts are better signings then UAEs. If both of them get the usual improvement when changing to visma they will be sensational good together with kuss, Jorgensen Vingegaard van aert la Porte and Benoit as a team. They will match this year UAE.
 
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If your looking to strengthen the tdf team next year Yates and Campenaerts are better signings then UAEs. If both of them get the usual improvement when changing to visma they will be sensational good together with kuss, Jorgensen Vingegaard van aert la Porte and Benoit as a team. They will match this year UAE.
No they wont at all imo. The gap so far just increased Simon Yates is not tier one and would be dropped way before jorgenson while uae could have 3-4 doms left.... neither is Campenaerts by any means like ?(both Narvaez and Florian are higher tier riders and its telling what riders go where) Also the factor all their ''best'' doms are old and wont get better relative to others who most likely will only improve more.

And I was talking about team as a general not only the Tour but if you think Visma can match UAE tour team thats a stretch to say the least could argue they would be even better this year by bringing in riders as Bjerg and Mcnulty. Visma isnt close to the depth of UAE and their best riders is also something of the past and Simon Yates or Campenearts wont solve any of that, at all do you think they would get on UAE A team?, not even close. -- take the age on their best riders into account and it gets ugly depending on what side your looking at it from.
 
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