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That's the amount that was reported for 2024, so no 50 million if Wielerflits is to be believed.
Maybe these rumours about WVA going to Soudal make sense now.
But one of those 3-4 doms that UAE will have left, is Simon Yates’ twin brother, who unlike Simon, has never won a grand tour…I don’t see any reason why Simon can’t be just as useful for Vingegaard even if he hasn’t been at his best form the last couple of years
And again not every rider signed by top teams are winners. Visma has guys like Vermote, Hessman and Van Der Sande. UAE has guys like Laengen and Vink. They don't move the needle but you need them.
This seems to be forgotten by a lot of people a lot of the time.
If you compare Jumbo strength wice to UAE at this point as it looks now its no point dude Redbull will most likely even surpass them next year strenght wice and it wont get much better unless they start buying some of the tier one rider out there to close the gap and unfurtunately for them it doesnt seem like it for now at least that might change though quickly lets see.
This is very true. Jumbo have a great roulers team for now but their problem is the age on their best ones and that they most likely wont get better relative to others I would be more concerned with that and they need top tier ones in there, Lazkano would be a gem for Jumbo but seeing if he goes to Redbull is telling somewhat but lets see.
People who could be leaders being signed as domestique has always had some negative reaction attached, though. It's just exacerbated now because the distance between the haves and have nots is ever bigger. He's being signed as a domestique but as a result will be deployed in a less interesting manner and will help prevent other riders from making things interesting in their own right too. At the point in Yates' career he's at it makes sense, but fans are well within their rights to feel disappointed that another guy who could ride GC or be an elite stage hunter is being snapped up to play the role of third in line in a train and maybe score a lower end top 10 by dropping the few people remaining that could make it interesting for any team outside the big 2-3.
You do know that Simon Yates finished 4th in the TdF last year, right? One position behind his brother…Just because he hasn’t had his best year in 2024 doesn’t mean he’s some washed up has-been!
I think you are right in a three year perspective but for the next years Yates and Campenarts are better. Compare their palmares to Narvaeez and Florian . There is no guarantee that the UAE signings will be better then they already are and they have not shown high level over several seasons. But we will have to see next year.
More so in 3 years yes then Jumbo really need to be proactive now and im not seeing it -- so far.
If they would get Lazkano for instance that would be it for me that would close the gap significantly and a very promising sign even more importantly for things to come. Simon Yates and Campenaert is not it in that department if thats the best they can do right now I would be worried but as I said will ofc change in a dime with a top tier signing lets hope for that if not I see Redbull even overtaking Jumbo very soon.
I really think you underrate Visma. Van Aert/Laporte/Van Battle/Kuss/Yates/Jorgenson/Benoit are a mighty strong support.If they would get Lazkano for instance that would be it for me that would close the gap significantly and a very promising sign even more importantly for things to come. Simon Yates and Campenaert is not it in that department if thats the best they can do right now I would be worried but as I said will ofc change in a dime with a top tier signing lets hope for that if not I see Redbull even overtaking Jumbo very soon.
Edit: lets move it to the jumbo thread me and you if continue this cause I talk more about jumbo here than this thread is really about so properly better
I get what you're saying but if I understood he isn't hating on them signing Langellotti to turn him into a domestique, he's hating because it's "just" Langellotti.
I mean he already finished 14th in Itzulia, so yes, he can be a solid WT rider.
And they also have Uijtdebroeks even if he did not live up to the hype this year he is still a major talent and for now is equal to Ayuso in terms of potential ( both as cyclist and as team players)
I don't know how you can establish "potential" but in terms of results Ayuso surpasses Uijtdebroeks by a big margin (even if you discard Ayuso's 2024 results as he is half a year older). Not only did he achieve a GT podium before even turning 20 but he's been superior to Uijtdebroeks in pretty much every area- GTs, classics, ITTs etc.
Ok but so far this year (and last) Ayuso has stagnated, he is further away from the best results his OG RR was a good example maybe he is on downward trajectory. There is a lot of talents that never develops in to GC leaders maybe he is another Wilco or Soler. The same is true for Uijtdebroeks but both have shown previously that they have been able to perform on a high level. I believe it will be easier to shape Uijtdebroeks into a superdom then it is for Ayuso to become one. We will have to wait and see which one will be more useful for his team.
It’s a lot about psychology as well. All these youngsters that is declared to be the second coming doesn’t have the he mentality to make it. In a parallel universe Soler would have won 5 tours by now.That's a lot of doomsaying about one of the best teenagers in cycling history!
Who also won a WT stage race and podiumed another this season. Then was hampered by illness and a crash in the build up to/during the Tour. I think Pogacar's crazy full season peak has given people unrealistic expectations on behalf of other riders. I can get along with Ayuso possibly not having that much more room for improvement left, but downward trajectory at the age of 21? Come on.
At Ayuso's current age, Soler's best results were a 3rd in the Spanish U23 ITT championship and a 51st place overall at the Tour de l'Avenir. The two are not comparable in my opinion. I would say Ayuso has shown both the capability and the psychology for being a very successful team leader in a grand tour. And he did so as a teenager. Don't think there's much wrong with his mentality.
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