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gospina said:
depending on his form I don't think gaimon will gain any time on quintana in the itt
depending on his form I don't think gaimon will gain any time on quintana in the itt
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The team that looks the strongest is actually BMC. We know Stetina and Atapuma are in great shape. Today, we see that Taylor Phinney is as well.
Individually, we also haven't seen Purito nor Nibali do anything...I doubt that they will go for tomorrow's stage. I wish there was better coverage of this race. I also think that the Vuelta a Colombia or Clasico RCN have lost such asn opportunity...San Luis is now THE south american race.
Individually, we also haven't seen Purito nor Nibali do anything...I doubt that they will go for tomorrow's stage. I wish there was better coverage of this race. I also think that the Vuelta a Colombia or Clasico RCN have lost such asn opportunity...San Luis is now THE south american race.
gospina said:
They probably didn't do too much before the finale today. Both teams failed in winning the stage.
Sadly stage 4 seems easy to control all the way to the foot of the climb. From there Danielson can pace Gaimon which should limit the loss. I see no more than 1 minute gap to the leaders here.
Stage 6 is a lot more difficult to control if teams are prepared to lose their placement and go for the win. Just my opinion.
De Maar's UHC team might be prepared to lend Garmin a hand along the way. If I was Garmin's DS, I would call UHC tonight.
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gospina said:
you don't know how it works in south america. there is no such thing as south american cycling or biggest races or teams in south america. south america is divided. you will pretty much never see colombian teams in chile, uruguay, argentina or brazil, nor will you see chilean, brazilian, uruguyan teams riding in colombia, venezuela, ecuador. it's all very local and the vuelta colombia would never want to be like san luis. the vuelta colombia is a 15 day grand tour, no european teams will feel like going there in june or august getting their asses kicked by local teams
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Congratulations to Nizzolo! It really looked like he was a level above everyone else in that sprint; granted, Cavendish didn't sprint for the win.
I've long thought that he could get much more wins if only he did the right races and had a little more help. This finally seems to be the case this year. I hope he can get a lot of wins this season
I've long thought that he could get much more wins if only he did the right races and had a little more help. This finally seems to be the case this year. I hope he can get a lot of wins this season
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Ryo Hazuki said:
Vuelta a Colombia has lost its status every year by the UCI because no foreign country wants to go there. San Luis has done the opposite, attracted world class riders. Vuelta a Colombia used to attract foreign teams. I know you may think that the national team of bolivia or the national team from venezuela count, but they really don't.
The reason that european teams don't go is the same reason why most professional colombian riders don't push to go to it either. No drug testing, bad conditions of roads, no money to be won. Vuelta a Colombia could be the hardest race in the UCI circuit. Uran, Ardila, Acevedo have done more for cyclist going to colombia than the Vuelta or el Clasico RCN.
While I loved watching some up and coming colombian riders in it, they have lost their glory and are falling apart.
San Luis has done a great job at marketing itself and filling a gap. I wish Colombia could do the same
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As I understand it, the Vuelta a Colombia lowered its official UCI status because, with the introduction of the rules for participation of pro-conti, conti and non-UCI teams, keeping their status would have meant most Colombian teams wouldn't have been able to participate. Argentina has a smaller cycling scene so they went with an internalization of San Luis, and it's working well for them. Colombia chose a different strategy, and I wouldn't say it's not working.
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gospina said:
what the hell are you talking about? vuelta colombia is only rising in popularity. and vuelta colombia is the hardest race in the world, except the uci force colombian federation to reduce mountains so much that it loses some of it's glory and still no foreign teams want to go because it's more than 2 weeks long in middle of the season
you keep mistakign popularity. the vuelta colombia is hugely popular in colombia, as it should be. why would they care wether it's popular in europe?
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Ryo Hazuki said:
Entonces porque los anuncios oficiales que han hecho en los últimos años siempre dicen que no pudieron conseguir los equipos necesarios para 'seguir creciendo'. Si comparamos la popularidad en esas vueltas en los últimos años al 95-2000, por ejemplo, a bajado. No se ponga a inventar vainas. La otra realidad es que usan muchas drogas en Colombia a nivel amateur y las carreteras siguen malísimas. Lo único que si le ganan a las otras vueltas en Suramérica es las cámaras. Lo que ha hecho argentina is admirable y pienso que para que sigan creciendo las vueltas locales toca seguir el ejemplo de San Luis
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gospina said:
nowhere is stated any source of why vuelta colombia is less popular also there is no source whatever you posted. uci relegating the race for not having enough foreign teams is hardly important domestically. the colombian home riders really don't care for those few continental points they may get.
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Actually gospina is right, although there is controversy on the routes of Colombian races, Vuelta a Colombia is the oldest in America and it can be the hardest in the world. Clasico RCN is also 2nd or 3rd oldest (I guess Guatemala started earlier).
Wherever you put stages in Colombia, there is a reason to complain: You put flat stages in the Atlantic Coast or in Cauca Valley, then it's "too hot", you put them in the Plateau, near Bogotá, then it's "too high". If you put mountains, then it's "too much and too high" for foreigners.
I wouldn't like it to be softened or shortened to please visitors who only go there fulfilling a contract and retiring when it becomes hard. However, better routing possibilities are available, to get sprints, echelons, MF, multiclimb stages
I'd say Colombia Federation lacks vision to make it bigger, even at the cost of some local clubs. While long time ago it was interesting seeing the rivalry between regions, today it's not good to see 3rd level riders, because the best Colombians just skip it, and good foreigners are not attracted. Colombian fans are returning to cycling but if they see the lineup, they hardly recognize a few.
In other topics, It's well known that controls are sporadic at best.
Nonetheless, I disagree on road conditions, because it uses main roads (which in some places might have problems), but in TdF they want to pass pavé, in Giro sterrato, in Vuelta hormigón, so I don't see this being a problem.
Wherever you put stages in Colombia, there is a reason to complain: You put flat stages in the Atlantic Coast or in Cauca Valley, then it's "too hot", you put them in the Plateau, near Bogotá, then it's "too high". If you put mountains, then it's "too much and too high" for foreigners.
I wouldn't like it to be softened or shortened to please visitors who only go there fulfilling a contract and retiring when it becomes hard. However, better routing possibilities are available, to get sprints, echelons, MF, multiclimb stages
I'd say Colombia Federation lacks vision to make it bigger, even at the cost of some local clubs. While long time ago it was interesting seeing the rivalry between regions, today it's not good to see 3rd level riders, because the best Colombians just skip it, and good foreigners are not attracted. Colombian fans are returning to cycling but if they see the lineup, they hardly recognize a few.
In other topics, It's well known that controls are sporadic at best.
Nonetheless, I disagree on road conditions, because it uses main roads (which in some places might have problems), but in TdF they want to pass pavé, in Giro sterrato, in Vuelta hormigón, so I don't see this being a problem.
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obviously the colombian federation is mostly trash and corrupt. no denieing that, but uci is actually making it worse.
also the vuelta colombia isn't the oldest race in america. not even close. races in agrentina like doble bragado are 100 years old
also the vuelta colombia isn't the oldest race in america. not even close. races in agrentina like doble bragado are 100 years old
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according to ticker san luis are decimating the peloton.probably in the wind a sthey are still quite far from the climb
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