Teams & Riders The "MVP" Mathieu Van der Poel Road Discussion Thread

[yaco]

Amstel is kinda interesting.

I think it's definitely hillier than is ideal for MvdP, and it's not that suited to long solos either. So he may actually get done by getting Sagan treatment at least. In 2022 I thought he was pretty underwhelming in Amstel

Still I don't see how he loses considering neither Pogacar nor Evenepoel are racing it.

He doesn't get the recovery time between bergs like he does at RVV. HE is a risk in this race.

 

[Didinho]

 

[Hugo Koblet]

He doesn't get the recovery time between bergs like he does at RVV. HE is a risk in this race.

I think that Van der Poel's biggest strenght is his in-race recovery. He's one of - if not the - best at repeated efforts with very little recovery in between.

 

[Didinho]

I think that Van der Poel's biggest strenght is his in-race recovery. He's one of - if not the - best at repeated efforts with very little recovery in between.

Jordi Meeus regularly trained with him and said he could do 30/30 intervals for 15 minutes while himself and others are done after 7-8 minutes. He’s a beast in training.

 

[Bolder]

What is that white band on his wrist?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

What is that white band on his wrist?

his whoop band.

Only 265 euro a year

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total steal

 

[jmdirt]

his whoop band.

Only 265 euro a year

WHOOP Membership | Enhance Your Fitness Journey

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total steal

I don't need to pay for a membership to tell me that I'm old, worn out, and sleep poorly!

 

[Didinho]

his whoop band.

Only 265 euro a year

WHOOP Membership | Enhance Your Fitness Journey

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total steal

Wanted to buy it untill I saw the price.

And he was only 84% recovered before his Roubaix win, according to this Whoop band.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

yeah the price is insane. and im not convinced by its metrics either

 

[Ricco']

It's a good gimmick for those who have money to splurge.

My Garmin watch has the same features (level of recovery, level of stress, etc.) for a fraction of the cost. Who says it more correctly? Probably neither.

 

[Bolder]

It's a good gimmick for those who have money to splurge.

My Garmin watch has the same features (level of recovery, level of stress, etc.) for a fraction of the cost. Who says it more correctly? Probably neither.

Ah, right. My Garmin watch tells me stuff like that. I went on an easy Zone 2 ride yesterday during PR, and I have to wait 13 hours to recover...

I'm fairly certain MvdP doesn't train on his Whoop score. Although he did open up a can of whoop-ass on his rivals, as you might say in the US South.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Ah, right. My Garmin watch tells me stuff like that. I went on an easy Zone 2 ride yesterday during PR, and I have to wait 13 hours to recover...

I'm fairly certain MvdP doesn't train on his Whoop score. Although he did open up a can of whoop-ass on his rivals, as you might say in the US South.

Do people really follow these advices? I wear the FR955 all the time but it gives me such stupid recommendations, like I've had my easy morning run almost 10 hours ago but even now it recommends 23 hours of recovery time and constantly suggests runs at a joke 5:30 pace or rest days. Of course I never follow them.

The only value of these watches is that you can see your pace while you're running, accurate GPS and you can connect your chest strap to it. Sometimes a map if you're in unfamiliar territory. The rest is just a bad gimmick. I wonder how bad Whoop can be if it offers none of these things.

 

[Valv.Piti]

If you are an athlete (or anyone, really) you should just ignore the recommendations. These are obviously a joke, but I find lots of stuff on a Garmin pretty valuable. I never run though, only cycling. At least its fun to sit afterwards and analyze stuff a bit.

 

[Berniece]

I think that Van der Poel's biggest strenght is his in-race recovery. He's one of - if not the - best at repeated efforts with very little recovery in between.

Someone told me, but I can’t remember where he heard it, that MVDP stopped consuming dairy since this year because it was shown that this has a positive influence on his recovery.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Nah VDP was already a freak at that. I think from when he still posted all his strava data, some cycling outlets analyzed his data. And it showed that after a max effort like barely a minute later his hr dropped to like zone 1 again. Absolutely crazy

 

[Froome]

Nah VDP was already a freak at that. I think from when he still posted all his strava data, some cycling outlets analyzed his data. And it showed that after a max effort like barely a minute later his hr dropped to like zone 1 again. Absolutely crazy

Grandfather's genes.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Sports success is a combination of genetics, opportunity, and motivation. Van der Poel has all three.

 

[veganrob]

Someone told me, but I can’t remember where he heard it, that MVDP stopped consuming dairy since this year because it was shown that this has a positive influence on his recovery.

Mark Cavendish stopped dairy 15+ years ago during the season.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Do people really follow these advices? I wear the FR955 all the time but it gives me such stupid recommendations, like I've had my easy morning run almost 10 hours ago but even now it recommends 23 hours of recovery time and constantly suggests runs at a joke 5:30 pace or rest days. Of course I never follow them.

The only value of these watches is that you can see your pace while you're running, accurate GPS and you can connect your chest strap to it. Sometimes a map if you're in unfamiliar territory. The rest is just a bad gimmick. I wonder how bad Whoop can be if it offers none of these things.

Hmm…my Garmin says I have the exact same VO2 max. Makes me wonder.

 

[Froome]

Lance Armstrong believes Mathieu van der Poel can challenge Tadej Pogacar: "The man we saw win Paris-Roubaix today can certainly win Liège-Bastogne-Liège"

Mathieu van der Poel has won both Tour of Flanders a

cyclinguptodate.com

Armstrong also believes in MVP for Liege.

 

[Sciatic]

I think that Van der Poel's biggest strenght is his in-race recovery. He's one of - if not the - best at repeated efforts with very little recovery in between.

Knowing that he has that would also help with his race strategy. He knows he can do early intense attacks to whittle down the field to a small selection without being as concerned about “spending all his bullets”. Of course recently the initial attacks do more than whittle—they wipe out the competition completely.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Lance Armstrong believes Mathieu van der Poel can challenge Tadej Pogacar: "The man we saw win Paris-Roubaix today can certainly win Liège-Bastogne-Liège"

Mathieu van der Poel has won both Tour of Flanders a

cyclinguptodate.com

Armstrong also believes in MVP for Liege.

Froome: "Armstrong says...."
Me:

 

[proffate]

Hmm…my Garmin says I have the exact same VO2 max. Makes me wonder.

vo2 max should be fairly accurate to estimate based on 5 minute w/kg. But then 5 minute w/kg is probably more useful to know than the amount of oxygen you're consuming.

 

[senna6541]

Someone told me, but I can’t remember where he heard it, that MVDP stopped consuming dairy since this year because it was shown that this has a positive influence on his recovery.

***, I literally drink a quart of local dairy chocolate milk after every hard ride. But I'm a 58 year old hack and it's too good give up. Guessing MVDP doesn't drink 2 pints of IPA every night either?

 

[senna6541]

Okay, our man Horner has now officially "jumped the shark" with his nonsense about MVDP. He's got to be trolling at this point.