As long as he is sharp he is a threat on courses where explosivity counts. MSR is just not hard enough to wear VDP down. Logically Pog will have a harder time to beat VDP in PR because of lack of climbs. Not saying it's impossible just harder.
MVDP at the same time... cant really be too focused on Pog.
Van Aert and few others are closer to MVDP there.
Agree, van Aert and Pedersen were both impressive today. Should both be in a good mental place going into PR. I really think van Aert will be dangerous in PR. He looked damn good in 2023 but had that unlucky puncture in the end.
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Wout is the reason why I said MVP would have his worst season ever but he won MSR so I was wrong.
I knew he would follow Pog in MSR but I thought someone else would win.
In RVV, Pogacar was my bet and this time I was roght.
In PR, I think Wout will not let MVP go away so I expect someone else to win (I hope for Pogacar).
But it decreases their own chance to win. Instead of racing with Pog, you are racing against everyone else or run the risk of being done by the numbers from a strong team.
- Jun 17, 2024
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Chapeau to MvdP, but sorry if this was a surprise to anyone—you’re setting yourself up to be surprised. This shouldn’t come as a surprise, and it’s nothing to do with MvdP because he is beyond incredible in RVV and arguable one of the best ever and a true champion.
However, Pogacar, at the end of last year and even at MSR this year, how he redefined the race even. It should be a foregone conclusion to everyone what would happen, even in RVV. It’s nothing against MvdP because he is amazing. It is what it is.
However, Pogacar, at the end of last year and even at MSR this year, how he redefined the race even. It should be a foregone conclusion to everyone what would happen, even in RVV. It’s nothing against MvdP because he is amazing. It is what it is.
- Feb 20, 2012
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Completed a hattrack of bottling RVV for doing too much work today.
- Jun 17, 2024
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Also the strongest rider won you agree? Its been 5 years almost since that day in the Tour, its time to move on.
- Apr 30, 2011
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He did--in fact--not race to win. Pulling to keep Van Aert behind is not racing to win.
- Feb 20, 2012
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Strongest rider won. And that doesn't need to guarantee a win if you're smart.
He didnt do too much work.
He would lose the race closing too many gaps and Visma/Trek would have used their numbers. Or he would be relying on them to close gaps to other riders. He would have less of a chance vs Van Aert or Pedersen in a sprint, rather than go with Pog and try hang on to win the sprint vs him. He didnt, so he lost.
He would lose the race closing too many gaps and Visma/Trek would have used their numbers. Or he would be relying on them to close gaps to other riders. He would have less of a chance vs Van Aert or Pedersen in a sprint, rather than go with Pog and try hang on to win the sprint vs him. He didnt, so he lost.
- Jul 16, 2024
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When riding against anyone other than Pogacar: Chances of Pogacar winning: 90% Chances of you winning in case Pogacar loses: 50%. So that's a 5% chance.
When riding against only Pogacar: Chances of Pogacar winning: 70% Chances of you winning if Pogacar loses: 33%. A 10% chance.
Those are obviously just numbers I pulled out of my asterisks, but they explain my point.
- Feb 20, 2012
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OK then, I'll make it simple for you. MvdP riding to beat WvA guaranteed a Pogacar victory. Only if he'd ridden to beat Pogacar at all costs, would he have had any chance of winning.
MVDP has no other choice but to work and will do that, because he sees it as his best chance to win here.
If he doesnt go with Pog or just stop riding after every berg. The others come back and someone out of the Visma/Lidl guys... or riders from other teams will sneak away.
The others came back anyway here but if you get dropped every time... you will eventually not be able to come back.
MVDP chance was to ride and hope he could hold on in the end.
It is his best chance to win. Unless, he just tries to neutralize Pog to ride for someone else to win... other than himself or Pog.
If he doesnt go with Pog or just stop riding after every berg. The others come back and someone out of the Visma/Lidl guys... or riders from other teams will sneak away.
The others came back anyway here but if you get dropped every time... you will eventually not be able to come back.
MVDP chance was to ride and hope he could hold on in the end.
It is his best chance to win. Unless, he just tries to neutralize Pog to ride for someone else to win... other than himself or Pog.
He rode to increase is own chance to win, he hoped he could follow Pog which was his best chance to win. Like in 2022.
- Jul 16, 2024
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- Jul 16, 2024
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- Jul 16, 2024
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Yeah that's clearly what you believe, no matter what, so I guess that's that.
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