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Mollema was never in trouble on Pailheres though, he was just a little further back and didnt see a point in wasting any energy moving back up.
Dekker_Tifosi said:If he finishes 6th it isn't because he peaked in Suisse, it's because it's realistically where you would expect him. Behind Contador and all.
Before the Tour I'd say Contador, Froome and Valverde would certainly be better. Then Quintana if he doesn't bomb in the first week (and he didn't). And then it would be close from there on between Mollema, Van den Broeck, Pinot, Rolland, Evans, Schleck, Kreuziger, Costa etcetera... Well you see how many from that list are gone or far behind already. But he could still easily finish 6th and it still wouldn't be a dissappointment to me.
I mean how can Mollema realistically hold a good Contador? Only hope is that Contador stays as ****ty as he is right now (because a good Contador is miles ahead) and that Quintana has to sacrifice himself for Valverde at some point.
I'm not that afraid of Kreuziger, I think Mollema is even/slightly better than him.
rls555 said:Kreuzinger better Sat? Mollema almost caught Valverde and was quicker by 9 seconds over Froome in the last 3k of the climb.
Yes, that's what they also say about Gesink, but like with Gesink you can see when Mollema is struggling. Apart from that, when you start a climb all the way at the front and end it all the way at the back, that's not a tactical choice. It even costs more energy riding at the back.Dekker_Tifosi said:When has Mollema ever looked good? He already looks like he is struggling on a flat stage
Dekker_Tifosi said:He wasn't clearly better than Mollema on Saturday. Yeah he hung with the Sky train longer, but you don't know if he could have blown or slowed later? Valverde was hanging with Sky a hell of a lot longer and Mollema in the end finished 1 second behind.. Also only what, 19 seconds behind Porte? He had a very strong finish. So you don't know for sure.
And in the ITT Mollema was better and in Suisse as well. (and both are peaking for the tour obviously)
Kokoso said:In ITT Kreuziger could be told not to go faster then Alberto...what sounds little paranoid, I know...![]()
Yep, sorry. But that changes about nothing.Dekker_Tifosi said:On saturday Kreuziger and Contador ended 30+ seconds behind.. joker
(35 seconds to be exact)
Kokoso said:Yep, sorry. But that changes about nothing.![]()
Jelantik said:Mollema will crack. If it's not at ventoux, at double assault to alp d'huez. Quintana will win the white jersey. He was the only rider left on a very mountainous parcour at last vuelta that's not GC contender. He'll be up there close to GC. Mollema will drop from 3 position to I don't know. but he won't be in top three. That's my prediction.How accurate? dunno, do i look like a psychic to you?
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I agree Mollema is better overall. But not on last weekend, at least saturday.Dekker_Tifosi said:like i said i think they are about equal. Mollema maybe slightly better. Hard to tell.
JimPanzen said:I think Mollemas comments towards Valverde will fire back at him badly during the remaining mountain stages. Just a feeling.
Linkeballer said:Mollema said that he felt no regrets for Valverde, because according to him Valverde deserved it after last year (not waiting for Gesink, i guess).
Linkeballer said:Mollema said that he felt no regrets for Valverde, because according to him Valverde deserved it after last year (not waiting for Gesink, i guess).
Mollema said that Valverde had behaved quite unsportsmanlike himself in past years, so he shouldn't complain. He already said before that he doesn't like to have to race against guys like Valverde, and yes he meant that in a clinic-related way.Linkeballer said:Mollema said that he felt no regrets for Valverde, because according to him Valverde deserved it after last year (not waiting for Gesink, i guess).
theyoungest said:Mollema said that Valverde had behaved quite unsportsmanlike himself in past years, so he shouldn't complain. He already said before that he doesn't like to have to race against guys like Valverde, and yes he meant that in a clinic-related way.
I don't think he was referring to last year's crash, as Valverde crashed himself on that stage![]()