The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[red_flanders]

That the power. Doesn't want the opposition to know the precise watts.

I'm sure not.

A commentator said running matharons can slow your cadence down a tad. I don't know the truth of that.

One, I have no idea what this means. You think he's doing a competition-level TT at 104 right now, yes? Post whatever occasional running he's done? So I'm not sure I get the point.

Again, just watch his videos during his prime. See what the cadence is. Should be fairly easy. Check it against a video of last year's Tour TT. See if it's changed. See if it or anyone's is over 100. Pretty easy to figure out.

His cadence in some jackoff made-up event against no competition is meaningless data other than for training. The tape is hilarious. Ever heard of Photoshop or a blur filter in any photo processing software?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Yeah too bad. Would make things more interesting and contador wouldn't have a chance.

Well, at least your knuckle-dragging keeps the floors clean around here.

 

[wattage]

Lance sure does train with SRM and uses that power meter sometimes in other races, but has he ever had a power meter on his bike while riding in the TdF?

 

[progressor]

The tape is hilarious. Ever heard of Photoshop or a blur filter in any photo processing software?

Huh? Tape takes seconds and does the job as well as anything. Wheres your problem?

 

[red_flanders]

Huh? Tape takes seconds and does the job as well as anything. Wheres your problem?

You're right. He probably uploads it straight from the phone.

I still think it's hilarious that he sends that image out so that people can fawn over it but has to black out the power. Not sure why. I guess it's just funny that he blacks out the only interesting thing but people still fawn over it and act like it's some kind of real information. Meanwhile, in Europe, the "competition" is riding to win in real races that matter.

 

[Iker_Baqueiro]

You're right. He probably uploads it straight from the phone.

I still think it's hilarious that he sends that image out so that people can fawn over it but has to black out the power. Not sure why. I guess it's just funny that he blacks out the only interesting thing but people still fawn over it and act like it's some kind of real information. Meanwhile, in Europe, the "competition" is riding to win in real races that matter.

Yeah, and LA is doing yoga, 6 hour rides, tour of gila and tweeting. It seems he is announcing to the world he will not be really contending the Tour de France next July, saying that he will just show up for it.

And I know the LA fanboys will counter by saying he is tweeting that to deceive us about his training, but, my counter to that is, that's bullsh*t.

The other possibility is that he is following the "Dr. Ferrari training program". If come July, he is climbing with the Schlecks, Contador, Rodriguez, Evans and others, then we will know he took some "good stuff".

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

One, I have no idea what this means. You think he's doing a competition-level TT at 104 right now, yes? Post whatever occasional running he's done? So I'm not sure I get the point.

I know he did the New York marathon twice in retirement. A commentator said this can slow down the cadence of a cyclist. I have no idea if this is true or what it is based on. I can only presume they mean the rythme for running is slower?

Again, just watch his videos during his prime. See what the cadence is. Should be fairly easy. Check it against a video of last year's Tour TT. See if it's changed. See if it or anyone's is over 100. Pretty easy to figure out.

Not really that easy in actual fact. I've seen it commented a few times, like what started off this issue, that his cadence has slowed down though, so if that is true then we have to assume it used to be above 104.

His cadence in some jackoff made-up event against no competition is meaningless data other than for training. The tape is hilarious. Ever heard of Photoshop or a blur filter in any photo processing software?

Well I suppose it could be faked. Don't see why he would bother doing that for a twitter TT. He probably would have faked the power watts as well if that was the case.

As for watts, they are usually a closely guarded secret in pro cycling. For instance you did not see Contador rushing to show everyone his power meter when some questioned his performance on the Verbier. Nobody wants everyone to know just how good, or how crap, their watts are at any given time.

 

[red_flanders]

Yeah, and LA is doing yoga, 6 hour rides, tour of gila and tweeting. It seems he is announcing to the world he will not be really contending the Tour de France next July, saying that he will just show up for it.

And I know the LA fanboys will counter by saying he is tweeting that to deceive us about his training, but, my counter to that is, that's bullsh*t.

The other possibility is that he is following the "Dr. Ferrari training program". If come July, he is climbing with the Schlecks, Contador, Rodriguez, Evans and others, then we will know he took some "good stuff".

I don't think there's any question that he's doing all he can to "prepare" for the race. I don't think that's any different than any other year. I think he's at home training because he knows his best strategy this year is to husband his dwindling resources and not overtrain. He is losing the ability to recover and probably losing duration on his peak fitness due to age, and he's conserving.

I have no doubt he'll be in the best shape he can be in July and that he'll be adequately "prepared". He'll probably climb pretty well. It's just not going to be enough and he knows it, so his mouth and twitter feed will be in full "excite the fanboy" mode through the end of July.

He's still a great rider. He's just not the best anymore, and he can't stand it. All the twittering now is just groundwork to ease his and his followers' eventual disappointment--they'll find a way to package the inevitable defeat as a victory just as they found a way to do it last year by attacking (verbally of course) Contador. It's all distraction to take the focus away from the fact that he hasn't got "it" any more. The art of war.

 

[red_flanders]

Not really that easy in actual fact. I've seen it commented a few times, like what started off this issue, that his cadence has slowed down though, so if that is true then we have to assume it used to be above 104.

All you need is 10 seconds of watching him ride in full frame. Not hard to find.

Well I suppose it could be faked. Don't see why he would bother doing that for a twitter TT. He probably would have faked the power watts as well if that was the case.

Exactly. I don't think it's faked, I just think the whole thing is stupid. Why show it at all if the only actual measure of anything important is blacked out. Just to give the fanboys something to ogle. I find it really strange.

 

[Race Radio]

I know he did the New York marathon twice in retirement. A commentator said this can slow down the cadence of a cyclist. I have no idea if this is true or what it is based on. I can only presume they mean the rythme for running is slower?



Not really that easy in actual fact. I've seen it commented a few times, like what started off this issue, that his cadence has slowed down though, so if that is true then we have to assume it used to be above 104.



Well I suppose it could be faked. Don't see why he would bother doing that for a twitter TT. He probably would have faked the power watts as well if that was the case.

As for watts, they are usually a closely guarded secret in pro cycling. For instance you did not see Contador rushing to show everyone his power meter when some questioned his performance on the Verbier. Nobody wants everyone to know just how good, or how crap, their watts are at any given time.

You seem to quote a lot of commentators, could you actually provide a link to back up these inventions?

 

[wattage]

It's quite rare that top pro's would share their power numbers publicly, their power numbers are very secret, like pentagon secret. Power files which are publicly released only come from domestiques usually. I have not ever seen power file from lance, contador, cancellara, schlecks..or any top dog.

Only one that I can remember, that has released some info is Wiggo from last years Tour.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I don't think there's any question that he's doing all he can to "prepare" for the race. I don't think that's any different than any other year. I think he's at home training because he knows his best strategy this year is to husband his dwindling resources and not overtrain. He is losing the ability to recover and probably losing duration on his peak fitness due to age, and he's conserving.

I have no doubt he'll be in the best shape he can be in July and that he'll be adequately "prepared". He'll probably climb pretty well. It's just not going to be enough and he knows it, so his mouth and twitter feed will be in full "excite the fanboy" mode through the end of July.

He's still a great rider. He's just not the best anymore, and he can't stand it. All the twittering now is just groundwork to ease his and his followers' eventual disappointment--they'll find a way to package the inevitable defeat as a victory just as they found a way to do it last year by attacking (verbally of course) Contador. It's all distraction to take the focus away from the fact that he hasn't got "it" any more. The art of war.

Great post- one part in all of this is that I think when he and his entourage looked at last season they realised that Lance did not have to win to be a success financially. I think this is why his motivation has been lacking somewhat this year.

I expect him to have a good Tour and not be far off the pace so I do wonder will he eventually regret not putting a proper build up* to this years Tour.

*(And by proper build up I mean base himself in Europe from March to July -ride some quality Classics and do some 3-4 day events solely as preparation)

 

[Mellow Velo]

Yup, Plan de Corones in 2010 was a step too far for Uncle Twitter. No way was he having his Trek treated like this:






No way will the Tour ever attempt anything like this, as cars can't make it, never mind publicity caravans!

 

[Publicus]

I don't think there's any question that he's doing all he can to "prepare" for the race. I don't think that's any different than any other year. I think he's at home training because he knows his best strategy this year is to husband his dwindling resources and not overtrain. He is losing the ability to recover and probably losing duration on his peak fitness due to age, and he's conserving.

I have no doubt he'll be in the best shape he can be in July and that he'll be adequately "prepared". He'll probably climb pretty well. It's just not going to be enough and he knows it, so his mouth and twitter feed will be in full "excite the fanboy" mode through the end of July.

He's still a great rider. He's just not the best anymore, and he can't stand it. All the twittering now is just groundwork to ease his and his followers' eventual disappointment--they'll find a way to package the inevitable defeat as a victory just as they found a way to do it last year by attacking (verbally of course) Contador. It's all distraction to take the focus away from the fact that he hasn't got "it" any more. The art of war.

+10000 Great post! It is probably the most plausible explanation for his current training regimen.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

You seem to quote a lot of commentators, could you actually provide a link to back up these inventions?

Can you tell me what my motivation would be for making up this information and what exactly it helps?

Thanks.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

It's quite rare that top pro's would share their power numbers publicly, their power numbers are very secret, like pentagon secret. Power files which are publicly released only come from domestiques usually. I have not ever seen power file from lance, contador, cancellara, schlecks..or any top dog.

Only one that I can remember, that has released some info is Wiggo from last years Tour.

not true. cavendish did(very low), gesink did. they usually show the highest number sby riders at least in belgian and dutch teams they do.

 

[Iker_Baqueiro]

I don't think there's any question that he's doing all he can to "prepare" for the race. I don't think that's any different than any other year. I think he's at home training because he knows his best strategy this year is to husband his dwindling resources and not overtrain. He is losing the ability to recover and probably losing duration on his peak fitness due to age, and he's conserving.

I have no doubt he'll be in the best shape he can be in July and that he'll be adequately "prepared". He'll probably climb pretty well. It's just not going to be enough and he knows it, so his mouth and twitter feed will be in full "excite the fanboy" mode through the end of July.

He's still a great rider. He's just not the best anymore, and he can't stand it. All the twittering now is just groundwork to ease his and his followers' eventual disappointment--they'll find a way to package the inevitable defeat as a victory just as they found a way to do it last year by attacking (verbally of course) Contador. It's all distraction to take the focus away from the fact that he hasn't got "it" any more. The art of war.

You make a lot of sense. Maybe, that's the reason he recently decided to drop some races off his calendar.

 

[Race Radio]

Can you tell me what my motivation would be for making up this information and what exactly it helps?

Thanks.

Same thing that motivates you to keep returning here after you have been banned 30 times

 

[BikeCentric]

Can you tell me what my motivation would be for making up this information and what exactly it helps?

Thanks.

Because you're a known troll that has been banned over 30 times for exactly the behavior you've been exhibiting this time around - making unsubstantiated BS claims and then not sourcing them.

Under your current username you've claimed that running marathons slows cycling cadence and that Armstrong TT's at 110 RPM's, two completely moronic claims that you have once again provided no evidence to back up.

This is why you are a troll and continue to get banned.

 

[BikeCentric]

not true. cavendish did(very low), gesink did. they usually show the highest number sby riders at least in belgian and dutch teams they do.

Marco Pinotti provided his power data from Liege-Bastogne-Liege early this year in a Cyclesport issue as well.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

Same thing that motivates you to keep returning here after you have been banned 30 times

You did not answer.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

Under your current username you've claimed that running marathons slows cycling cadence

A user asked if anyone had noticed Armstrong's cadence being slower. I replied that I had heard a commentator say this can happen to cyclists who run marathons. What would be the motivation of making it up? If I was fanboying I would have claimed it's still fast, wouldn't I? If we had to source every tiny bit of info then forums like this would not get many posts.

"and that Armstrong TT's at 110 RPM's, two completely moronic claims that you have once again provided no evidence to back up."

It's widely reported that LA's cadence was 110 RPM, as you know. I don't have first hand access to the power meter from his glory days so obviously I can not officially confirm it. But given he did 104 at the twitter TT - something we know because of a rare glimpse at his twitter TT power report - it seems fairly likely.

The only person who made a BS statement was you when you definitively claimed "no pro has ever TTed at 110".

Where is your source for such a statement? Are you trolling?

 

[BikeCentric]

troll babble

Again, all you need to do is provide one link sourcing your "marathons slow cadence" claim and a link to a source of ANY pro, not just Lance Armstrong, TT'ing at 110 RPM. Why can't you do this?

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

Again, all you need to do is provide one link sourcing your "marathons slow cadence" claim

It's not my claim, is it.

and a link to a source of ANY pro, not just Lance Armstrong, TT'ing at 110 RPM. Why can't you do this?

You're changing your story now in order to troll. Yesterday you accepted that LA's cadence was 110 on the flats.

Why are you trolling me?

 

[BroDeal]

You did not answer.

Trolls should be ignored. The only reason you are here is to disrupt, as you have done three dozen times before. Seek help.