The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Publicus]

Just in case you haven't figured it out Burn Pro Cycling.

 

[flicker]

Is there footage of it? Sounds like he dealt with it the right way to me. You can't let these do-gooders get the better of you. He's not a politican who needs votes.

When someone throws a shoe at you or calls you something I kind of like making a joke. The heckler is always pointing at him or herself. A shoe thrower or a nazi bookburner is never a do gooder. They are hiding from themselves. Better to give them no energy. Our native americans used banishment.

 

[CycloErgoSum]

You're obviously new to the sport. I can understand doping is shocking to someone like yourself who has just discovered pro cycling, but after you've been on google for a few minutes you'll quickly discover that most of the GC guys have had some sort of programme for 20 years or so, and even before that doping was utterly rampant. It was the legend Eddie Merckx that introduced Armstrong to his doctor.

This doesn't mean that the sport doesn't need to clean up, and most people believe it is well on the right road to doing that, but trying to pretend Armstrong is some sort of fraud just belies ignorance about the nature of the sport during the period he won his tours.

Once you understand this you'll realise it's wrong to witch hunt Armstrong. Believe me, it may not seem like it now, but you'll be kicking yourself.

When Lance's fans start rationalising his doping, the game really is up. Sounds like they'll start blaming society next. Kind of like those women who fall in love with death row prisoners; Hegel (now this is a bit high brow) called it 'being for others' - seeing past anothers transgressions as one's own stability depends on them.

 

[Oldman]

When someone throws a shoe at you or calls you something I kind of like making a joke. The heckler is always pointing at him or herself. A shoe thrower or a nazi bookburner is never a do gooder. They are hiding from themselves. Better to give them no energy. Our native americans used banishment.

Hasn't banishment been tried in BPC's various incarnations before. Comes back like a worm cut in half.

 

[Beech Mtn]

LA at the Tour of Luxembourg looking 110 years old and doing some comfort eating

 

[bobs nob]

I personally like how GW Bush handled the Iraqi Journalist shoe thrower. With humor and grace. Poor form by Lance to call the heckler out.

Maybe Lance can blame his doping on Bush. It's working for lots of folks these days!

 

[red_flanders]

What's new about it?

You're right, it's all been done before.

 

[redtreviso]

Shoe throwing and freedom of speech.. Regarding Natalie Maines George W Bush said "freedom of speech has consequences" France is not current day America though.. The fanboys are not going to be there to shout down LA hecklers with "FOUR MORE YEARS" or "USA USA USA" or have some dittohead goons beat them up.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

LA at the Tour of Luxembourg looking 110 years old and doing some comfort eating

 

[peacefultribe]

People tend to attack LA, yet applaud somebody like Basso, because of the way that LA has treated those who have questioned him. He is a bully, and has no problem destroying other people's reputations and lives. It is well documented.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I don't see a mark on him from that ToC crash.

 

[rata de sentina]

Don't be ridiculous. If some sort of magical cancer curing, super power giving drug cocktail existed 15 years ago it would be widely known by now.

Yea, it's called bleomycin/etoposide/cisplatin. The magical drug cocktail that cures about 90% of testicular cancer.

 

[tubularglue]

on the cancer wing it is called "bep" p being the cisplatin

 

[flicker]

I don't see a mark on him from that ToC crash.

That is because there was no crash silly. It was a hollogram Lance crash. Lance was sitting in the team bus sipping a nice cold michalob lite eating pretzals while those foolish boys were out running there hearts at 180BPM. Just a little theatre blood, no gash no stitches. The crash and injury, just smoke and mirrors. He just was trying to get sympathy. What a bully.

 

[flicker]

Anyone else struck by the sort of cult like following of LA? The guy is almost a religious figure to many of his admirers. Sort of a messiah who came back from the dead to conquer the TDF.

I've never really understood this. I love and follow several sports but I can't recall ever seeing the participants as anything more than... well... sport participants. They're excellent at what they do - play sport. But I don't see them as some sort of super humans that deserve any more admiration beyond what they get for being good at their occupation.

But Lance's fans are different. There's a real dedication to this guy that I have a hard time understanding. What is it that causes some of his fans to be so dedicated to this guy?

Uhh, because most Americans know nothing of cycling. They do not know Coppi, Anquenteil, Van Looy, Sercu Battaglin. They know text messaging, they are nerds. Most people I know who have expensive bikes do not know the sport very well. Maybe in 30 years....

 

[Ferminal]

Yea, it's called bleomycin/etoposide/cisplatin. The magical drug cocktail that cures about 90% of testicular cancer.

No side effects

 

[Oldman]

LA at the Tour of Luxembourg looking 110 years old and doing some comfort eating

On the Master's doping thread I was postulating the long term effect of HGH, Testosterone when it's been prescribed for rejuvenation; that the long term effects might be just taxing the overall potential as opposed to simply playing/training hard & healthy, enjoying the benefits of a real life. This would be the example of which?

 

[flicker]

On the Master's doping thread I was postulating the long term effect of HGH, Testosterone when it's been prescribed for rejuvenation; that the long term effects might be just taxing the overall potential as opposed to simply playing/training hard & healthy, enjoying the benefits of a real life. This would be the example of which?

Lannce looks lean and mean putting the hurt on the youngsters. He is having fun. HGH can it be detected? I gotta get me some.

 

[Barrus]

Lannce looks lean and mean putting the hurt on the youngsters. He is having fun. HGH can it be detected? I gotta get me some.

Too be quite honest, I think he looks frail, not weak, but frail.

 

[Beech Mtn]

I don't see a mark on him from that ToC crash.

On June 3 he tweeted a picture of himself with the US Ambassador to Luxembourg. The photo didn't show a mark on his face either, even though it was 2 weeks earlier that he had crashed (Stage 5, ToC, which was May 20). Don't know what happened to the story about him having a cut from his eyelid to his nose, but he looks OK two weeks later.

http://twitpic.com/1tkt6p

LA must have a far better doctor than Assan Bazeyev, who's nose scar has taken much longer to heal. Either that or LA wasn't injured all that badly at ToC - just enough to pull out of the race. Frankly, Chechu's injuries looked worse, but he finished the race. But then Chechu is tough.

 

[kurtinsc]

Where is that being reported?

It was in the post on the stage in this forum. I said "apparently" because I have no idea if it was accurate or not.

 

[Angliru]

I don't see a mark on him from that ToC crash.

What crash?

Seriously though, wasn't it mentioned that he needed quite a few stitches for the cut from the crash. I sure would love to see him without his sunglasses post-crash and post-getting stitched up.

 

[flicker]

Too be quite honest, I think he looks frail, not weak, but frail.

Could be. My friends and I thought the same thing of Contador before the Tour last year. We thought Alberto had overtrained, overfasted whatever. But Alberto showed us. If Lance can smash his face into the pavement Thursday in Cali and be training the Madone on Monday in the South of France I would say all vital signs GO!

 

[autologous]

video of the "say it to my face" incident

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dna9ynWMhv8

 

[flicker]

video of the "say it to my face" incident

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dna9ynWMhv8

Low life heckler. Coward hiding in the crowd. Notice all the kids and fans surrounding him. Telling. I would have jumped into the crowd and shown that punk what time it is. Hinault would have too.