The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[MacRoadie]

I certainly can't blame the charity for using the connection to increase their fund raising.

While I agree with almost 100% of what you're saying, it's this part that I have a little trouble with.

I think the statement "can't blame the charity for using the connection" is somewhat disingenuous. The "connection" is such that Lance Armstrong and the LAF are, for all intents and purposes, while separate entities, virtually inseparable. It's more like an indelible bond.

To use your scenario, let's assume in some alternate reality that the LAF did, in fact actually consider using Cadel Evans (or even George Hincapie). Lance Armstrong is the named founder of LAF, he sits on it's board, and he has long been the sole public face of the LAF. It's like using Fords in a Chevy commercial, or trying to use a fat person to promote Jenny Craig (oh sorry, they tried that ).

"Hey Lance, we're thinking about going with Alberto in our new print ads. He already has that whole Astana yellow thing going so it'd be a perfect fit. How does that work for you?"

To my mind, to say you "can't blame the charity for using the connection" suggests that they are simply making a logical choice with regard to their spokesperson, when in fact they really have no choice. As long as companies that hitch their wagon to the LAF need a spokesman, Lance will have a job.

Of course in my mind, it's entirely up to them who they use, just as it is entirely up to me who I chose to donate money to, as well as how thouroughly I research my chosen charities.

 

[Prodigy]

No, $200 million was not raised by LAF this year. Armstrong pocketed the money he got in Australia, Italy, Ireland.

His appearance fees, yes, but he also secured a lot of money for his charity from joint projects with governments and money raising charity events. He did so much of that it obviously effected his focus and preperation for the tour.

Now, I read he secured in excess of 200 million for his charity in one of the translated interviews that was going around at the end of last year. You're saying this is not true? Perhaps someone who has knowledge of the official figures can solve this for us.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Huh???? Someone show me where Nike donate 100% of their 10/2 Range to LAF. None of it goes to LAF. None. Zero. Show me a link to otherwise.

as per the other post to purchases made on the livestrong site:

"100% of the proceeds from the LIVESTRONG Store, after all expenses, benefit the programs of the Lance Armstrong Foundation. Our survivorship programs and services depend on the generosity of our supporters."

WTF?? after expenses!!! and survivorship programs comes from donations? You mean the yellow bands only pay for the jet and the other 77% of "entertainment"? not survivor programs.

Dude I was working with Nike around the time they unveiled the 10//2 Livestrong collection. 100% percent of the profits go to the LAF. It says it all over the labels and shoeboxes. I looked at them everyday. Link Those expenses you mention are the costs to produce such merchandise.

 

[Race Radio]

His appearance fees, yes, but he also secured a lot of money for his charity from joint projects with governments and money raising charity events. He did so much of that it obviously effected his focus and preperation for the tour.

Now, I read he secured in excess of 200 million for his charity in one of the translated interviews that was going around at the end of last year. You're saying this is not true? Perhaps someone who has knowledge of the official figures can solve this for us.

Any links to support your claims?

Of course not.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Prodigy does not speak for those of us that actually support the LAF.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Prodigy does not speak for those of us that actually support the LAF.

Nope, he's on your side. Your stuck with him, like the fat kid picked last in gym class.

 

[Prodigy]

Any links to support your claims?

No I'm saying I read it one of the several translated interviews at the end of last year. It's obviously difficult to read some of those things, so I am requesting that someone who knows the official figures could clear it up for us. You can't say fairer than that, can we?

I'm not going to start faking posts to prove a point. Only trolls do that.

 

[thehog]

Any links to support your claims?

Of course not.

I heard there was some significant work done in the Kingdom of Jordan but I'm yet to hear the follow up.... ha ha ! No kidding they ran with that! A country that has free health care for all!

 

[Prodigy]

Nope, he's on your side. Your stuck with him, like the fat kid picked last in gym class.

You're stuck with RaceRadio and the Hog. Two people who have been proven to make things up.

Bad luck old boy.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Prodiguous has carefully crafted this particular piece of trolling.
The 200 million claim doesn't state the currency, which, is more likely to be accurate for the Japanese Yen, rather than the US Dollar.

 

[Prodigy]

I always love when this issue is brought up in Armstrong threads. It's like reading a suicide note. Everybody can see the nature of some of the critics.

I don't think they realise most of the time just how bad it makes them look. They're just so emerced.

 

[Prodigy]

Prodiguous has carefully crafted this particular piece of trolling.
The 200 million claim doesn't state the currency, which, is more likely to be accurate for the Japanese Yen, rather than the US Dollar.

The dollar sign is in the original post.

 

[Hugh Januss]

You're stuck with RaceRadio and the Hog. Two people who have been proven to make things up.

Bad luck old boy.

Seeing as I probably agree with at least 75% of what they post and at most 3% of what you post.....I'll take that.
BTW, congrats on hitting the elusive 30 post per day average, I don't believe that has ever been done on this forum.

 

[BYOP88]

He did so much of that it obviously effected his focus and preperation for the tour.

Hahahahahaha ROFLMAO!!!!

So if he wins the Tour this year he obviously isn't focusing on his charity work, which I believe was the whole point of the comeback.

 

[theswordsman]

Nope, he's on your side. Your stuck with him, like the fat kid picked last in gym class.

That's harsh - I was the fat kid picked last in gym class. And I was good at volleyball, dodge ball, and soft ball

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Nope, he's on your side. Your stuck with him, like the fat kid picked last in gym class.

Yup he's the one nobody passes the ball to....Oy.

Swordsman, I would pick you. I need someone to pick up my slack in volleyball

 

[Race Radio]

Prodiguous has carefully crafted this particular piece of trolling.
The 200 million claim doesn't state the currency, which, is more likely to be accurate for the Japanese Yen, rather than the US Dollar.

Of course he meant Turkish lira.

This is one of the reasons he has been banned so many times. He posts something completely *** in hopes that someone will respond to it.

We should feel sorry for him as his life has been a little difficult lately
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ong-fan-faked-cancer-to-marry-girlfriend.html

 

[Prodigy]

Hahahahahaha ROFLMAO!!!!

So if he wins the Tour this year he obviously isn't focusing on his charity work, which I believe was the whole point of the comeback.

He's already comeback. This year it will be a much more traditional preperation with far less distractions. I was very pleased to hear that. You can't expect to win a grand tour and spend half your time meeting PMs and holding conferences. It was asking for trouble.

 

[Prodigy]

Of course he meant Turkish lira.

This is one of the reasons he has been banned so many times. He posts something completely *** in hopes that someone will respond to it.

We should feel sorry for him as his life has been a little difficult lately
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ong-fan-faked-cancer-to-marry-girlfriend.html

Pssst, I already pointed out that the dollar sign "$" was in my original post which you quoted. No need to apologise.

You've really become quite the troll. Fabricating posts and now posting links to irrelevent stories in order to provoke. It's like you don't even care about your reputation. Sad to see.

The rest of us are just going to stay on topic and ignore the trolls.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Of course he meant Turkish lira.

This is one of the reasons he has been banned so many times. He posts something completely *** in hopes that someone will respond to it.

We should feel sorry for him as his life has been a little difficult lately
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ong-fan-faked-cancer-to-marry-girlfriend.html

Wait, now I'm confused, I thought he was the guy in the Once jersey who races charity rides.

 

[BYOP88]

He's already comeback. This year it will be a much more traditional preperation with far less distractions. I was very pleased to hear that. You can't expect to win a grand tour and spend half your time meeting PMs and holding conferences. It was asking for trouble.

I must have missed the news that cancer has been beaten. Why was it so important in '09, yet in '10 it's only 2nd on the important list? Surely there are more countries to spread the word about cancer that aren't France, why doesn't he ride the Tour of Poland or the ENECO tour or the Tour de Langkawi, I believe cancer exists in those places too and Lance could spread the word and help kill cancer and more importantly collect some more "green".

 

[Prodigy]

Wait, now I'm confused, I thought he was the guy in the Once jersey who races charity rides.

Well done for calling him out for trolling, but it's probably best we just ignore him. He's obviously just looking for attention.

The way to beat these people is by staying on topic and thus showing them up for who they are.

 

[MacRoadie]

And I was good at volleyball, dodge ball, and soft ball

"If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball."

 

[Prodigy]

I must have missed the news that cancer has been beaten. Why was it so important in '09, yet in '10 it's only 2nd on the important list? Surely there are more countries to spread the word about cancer that aren't France, why doesn't he ride the Tour of Poland or the ENECO tour or the Tour de Langkawi, I believe cancer exists in those places too and Lance could spread the word and help kill cancer and more importantly collect some more "green".

He's obviously still going to do certain things, but nothing on the scale of last year. There won't be as much buzz around him this year anyway for him to exploit to further the cause - the comeback was a one off opportunity. Personally I would have prefered it if he hadn't done as much as he did last year - he obviously hasn't got that much time left to win a grand tour.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

No I'm saying I read it one of the several translated interviews at the end of last year. It's obviously difficult to read some of those things, so I am requesting that someone who knows the official figures could clear it up for us. You can't say fairer than that, can we?

I'm not going to start faking posts to prove a point. Only trolls do that.

NO. It is up to you to provide the information.

Stop trolling. You are on the verge of sanctions.

Susan