The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[MacRoadie]

This year it will be a much more traditional preperation with far less distractions.

Yes, back to the more traditional preparations, like Twitter TT challenges with Tri-Athletes in Hawaii.

 

[Publicus]

First, "significant" doesn't mean what you think it means. A 1% share of a company is considered a significant stake for most companies. There are 8.75 billion shares of microsoft. If you owned 1%... that would be 87.5 million shares... or 2,625,000,000 dollars worth of stock. 1% of microsoft isn't close to a majority stake. You'd get only 1% of the profit passed on to stockholders. But over 2.5 billion dollars worth of stock is definitely significant.

Demand is privately held, but the overall value of the company is probably over a billion dollars. They had over 850 million in capital they used to start purchasing sites. They put 20 million dollars down on just developing the Livestrong site.

I don't really want to get into this discussion any more than to say this: a 1% stake in publicly traded company is not really relevant to a stake in a private company. Without having access to the relevant shareholder agreements, certificates of designation and other documents related to the stock grant, you can't say how insignificant his stake in the entity actually is (dividends, piggyback registration rights, participation rights all have value). If his stake has been characterized as significant by a relevant party (i.e., in the know), then why are you arguing that it is insignificant? He has a significant stake in a PRE-IPO company. That is a very sweet deal no matter how you slice it.

 

[Prodigy]

Yes, back to the more traditional preparations, like Twitter TT challenges with Tri-Athletes in Hawaii.

Hawaii is where he trains. I don't think that is really in the same league as meeting lots of government officials and holding tons of charity events. For a first year back, which is always harder, that's a huge distraction in my view.

Impressive win though. I'm hoping him and Merckx can get it on to settle who is the all time best.

 

[MacRoadie]

Pssst, I already pointed out that the dollar sign "$" was in my original post which you quoted. No need to apologise.

You mean this dollar sign?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_sign

But which dollar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar

 

[Publicus]

Sweet sound of silence.

Also, not really getting that LA tw@tter comment... Double standard because of what reason?

I don't know if anyone else responded down thread, but my assumption is that he's noting how they treat mere allegations that he doped and how they are treating someone else who was actually penalized for doping. Again, I'm just speaking for what I assume Lance means by the double standard.

 

[Prodigy]

NO. It is up to you to provide the information.

You're saying it's trolling to ever bring up unsourced information to be verified? That seems very harsh.

Stop trolling. You are on the verge of sanctions.

Susan

Why have you said this in public to me, but your warning to RaceRadio, who has faked posts and posted offtopic links, are in private? Surely given his offense is obviously much more extreme, it should be the other way around?

 

[Race Radio]

This year it will be a much more traditional preperation

That kind of talk belongs in the clinic.

 

[Race Radio]

You're saying it's trolling to ever bring up unsourced information to be verified? That seems very harsh.



Why have you said this in public to me, but your warning to RaceRadio, who has faked posts and posted offtopic links, are in private? Surely given his offense is obviously much more extreme, it should be the other way around?

You continue to invent things. I have never received a public or private warning.

How many times have you been banned?

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Warnings are often made in threads.

Susan

 

[MacRoadie]

Why have you said this in public to me, but your warning to RaceRadio, who has faked posts and posted offtopic links, are in private? Surely given his offense is obviously much more extreme, it should be the other way around?

Ah, one sweet step closer...

 

[Prodigy]

You continue to invent things. I have never received a public or private warning.

Wow. I don't think you're helping out the mods by saying that. You mean you received no warning for faking other people's posts and trying to bait people with off topic links?

Is this right Susan? But you've just said I am about to receive sanctions for bringing up ontopic information in a relevent thread, and not even stating it as fact but asking for it to be verified by some of the people here that clearly are monitoring Livestrong very closely?

 

[Prodigy]

Warnings are often made in threads.

Susan

Well I'm surprised RaceRadio claims to have never received private warning. He obviously thinks all those public warnings aren't directed at him, like when you told him to stop going off topic earlier in this thread, so in the future I respectfully suggest you start PMing these people to cut it out.

This must be why they continue to troll even after you've told them to stop it. If you don't single them out then they think the rules don't apply to them.

Lets not continue this here, but clearly there is a lesson here.

 

[Publicus]

Dude I was working with Nike around the time they unveiled the 10//2 Livestrong collection. 100% percent of the profits go to the LAF. It says it all over the labels and shoeboxes. I looked at them everyday. Link Those expenses you mention are the costs to produce such merchandise.

Without knowing what expenses are run through this line, it's not really meaningful to say 100% of the profits are going back to LAF. Nike is making money off the line, no doubt about it.

 

[Race Radio]

Wow. I don't think you're helping out the mods by saying that. You mean you received no warning for faking other people's posts and trying to bait people with off topic links?

Is this right Susan? But you've just said I am about to receive sanctions for bringing up ontopic information in a relevent thread, and not even stating it as fact but asking for it to be verified by some of the people here that clearly are monitoring Livestrong very closely?

I am sure we can all agree that a poster like yourself who has been banned over 10 times and has baited the mods with his ability to change IP addresses should not be allowed to continue to post.

 

[Prodigy]

I am sure we can all agree that a poster like yourself who has been banned over 10 times and has baited the mods with his ability to change IP addresses should not be allowed to continue to post.

What do you think you would have to do to get banned?

 

[Race Radio]

, but clearly there is a lesson here.

Yes, the lesson is clear.

I am sure we can all agree that a poster like yourself who has been banned over 10 times, routinely and intentionally high jacks threads, has baited the mods with his ability to change IP addresses...... should not be allowed to continue to post.

 

[MacRoadie]

What do you think you would have to do to get banned?

I'm thinking that acting like you would be the quickest way (it seems to work for you every time).

 

[Prodigy]

Yes, the lesson is clear.

I am sure we can all agree that a poster like yourself who has been banned over 10 times, routinely and intentionally high jacks threads, has baited the mods with his ability to change IP addresses...... should not be allowed to continue to post.

You've just baited Susan by saying none of her warnings against you count.

Look, just cut this out. All you've done is try to stir up trouble on this thread from the moment I posted. Fake posts, offtopic links. Stop trolling. If you don't have anything to say on the topic, then don't say it.

 

[patricknd]

progressor, I first saw that news on a French site which referred to a 'rugbyman' - no mention of whether it was league or union (treize or quinze), hence my usage of the unqualified term 'rugby'.

Serious question, but do you think that - if the US had a healthcare system like the UK - the need for Livestrong would be so great? It does bother me somewhat to see kids with the wristbands as a fashion statement knowing (and caring) nothing about the charity.

good question, and i think you're probably correct to a certain extent. one of the areas that i found to be helpful was the financial considerations, because i didn't immediately think about that side, i thought about how get well. my provider wouldn't cover one of my chemo drugs, so i owed almost $20,000.00 for that alone, plus my deductible, max out of pocket etc. livestrong was where i learned about drug replacement programs, and i followed a link from there to amgen, to tour of california, to brake away from cancer, to the manufacturer's replacement program. after all that, it appears that they will be sending my oncologist medicine to replace what they used on me. i think livestrong is a good gateway site, and i still use it. it's a very good site for all the issues you face with this.

the wrist bands i think are for many people largely a fashion statement but that doesn't bother me. shortly before surgery, my assistant, who had lost a lot of weight, was looking for a 5k to do. i told her about the livestrong 5k and told her that i was going to do the ride. when i got out of the hospital after surgery i went to the office, and she gave me an envelope with about $500. in pledge money for the ride. she had gotten a box of bands from livestrong, and was giving them out to everyone that donated. corny as it may be, it was very touching to see 40 odd employees with bands on their wrists. i think all most of them new was that it was something to do with cancer, but i have to say i still tear up a little when i think about it.

 

[MacRoadie]

All I'v done is try to stir up trouble on this thread from the moment I posted.

There, fixed that for you.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Wow. I don't think you're helping out the mods by saying that. You mean you received no warning for faking other people's posts and trying to bait people with off topic links?

Is this right Susan? But you've just said I am about to receive sanctions for bringing up ontopic information in a relevent thread, and not even stating it as fact but asking for it to be verified by some of the people here that clearly are monitoring Livestrong very closely?

You are right the mods are treating you unfairly, you should try PMing them and challenging them to fight you. I think that would do it.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Without knowing what expenses are run through this line, it's not really meaningful to say 100% of the profits are going back to LAF. Nike is making money off the line, no doubt about it.

Perhaps, but I was not privy to such information. I basically made sure the displays were set up properly. Honestly, neither would surprise me.

 

[Race Radio]

good question, and i think you're probably correct to a certain extent. one of the areas that i found to be helpful was the financial considerations, because i didn't immediately think about that side, i thought about how get well. my provider wouldn't cover one of my chemo drugs, so i owed almost $20,000.00 for that alone, plus my deductible, max out of pocket etc. livestrong was where i learned about drug replacement programs, and i followed a link from there to amgen, to tour of california, to brake away from cancer, to the manufacturer's replacement program. after all that, it appears that they will be sending my oncologist medicine to replace what they used on me. i think livestrong is a good gateway site, and i still use it. it's a very good site for all the issues you face with this.

This is a huge side of Cancer where awareness, or at least some guidance, can really help.

When I went to visit my friend who was dying last summer we mainly spent the 4 days driving around filling out papers. Doctors, Lawyers, insurance, making videos so his son could see him when he grows up, planning the services. It was confusing, strange, overwhelming.

 

[laura.weislo]

Warning to the lot of you - keep this on topic, stop baiting the moderators or I'll ban the lot of you without hesitation! Do it. Do it now.

 

[BroDeal]

Warning to the lot of you - keep this on topic, stop baiting the moderators or I'll ban the lot of you without hesitation! Do it. Do it now.

You know, this thread serves a nice purpose of confining most of the "junk" to one thread where it is easy to avoid rather than having it spread everywhere. Just sayin...